Rafa acts like he doesnt care anymore.
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Sampras would be lucky to make the SF at Roland Garros in any era.
Murray > Sampras on clay.
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Djokovic2011
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Have to say this did make me laugh hard :lol::lol:
heninfan99
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Typical newbie response to fact.
When you finally remove your thumb from your @$$ you might learn something and become less boring and predictable.
When you finally remove your thumb from your @$$ you might learn something and become less boring and predictable.
Well excuuuse me, princess.
Sir Percival Blakeney
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And this type of response is reserved for the most veteran of members, I presume?
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Talk Tennis Guru
these "trophies" ? just glass and metal... why should i care about this stuff, man ?!
hombre... rafastarianism is beyond all this material crap, it's all about winning morally and socially, no ?
I do think the smile was somewhat suspicious. I think it was Nadal's nonchalant realization that yes, he has just been beaten by MURRAY--of all people--in a clay court final.
It's actually funny when you think about it. A year ago, I don't think anyone would have predicted such a thing...for a VARIETY of reasons.
It's actually funny when you think about it. A year ago, I don't think anyone would have predicted such a thing...for a VARIETY of reasons.
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90's Clay
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I don't see why he should care about more master titles. Like I said, does it improve his legacy at all? Or do slams at this point?
Most people don't even give a crap about masters count. Its an overlooked "record"
As long as he is playing well come slam time he puts himself in a position to win more which is the most important thing
Most people don't even give a crap about masters count. Its an overlooked "record"
As long as he is playing well come slam time he puts himself in a position to win more which is the most important thing
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Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
The Green Mile
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His body language throughout the second set and especially at the tail end of it (those last two points) was not the usual from Rafa at all.
23-8? Wow, didn't know that...
23-8? Wow, didn't know that...
Djokovic2011
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He's already lost more matches than he did in the whole of 2013! :shock:
This post was my comic relief.
To logically follow through with this thought, you would have to believe tennis players are the least intelligent group of people on earth.
tennisaddict
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The smile here makes it look like Rafa was injured and was not keen on putting up a fight today.
He was probably smiling because he was pleased with a runner-up, 1) because he has struggled a bit this year by his standards and 2) he understands how difficult it is to win at this level or even get to a final. Unlike the typical TT poster/fan, he knows he had a good week and he doesn't take things for granted.
Yet 23-8 hardly suggests we be shoveling dirt on his rotting corpse either.
RF-18
Talk Tennis Guru
Can't believe people can't see what that smile was.
He was sarcastic. He probably thought what a bad performance he made so he couldn't believe it. Especially those last two points, he laughed at himself for that poor play.
Nothing of that smile indicated that he did not care.
He was sarcastic. He probably thought what a bad performance he made so he couldn't believe it. Especially those last two points, he laughed at himself for that poor play.
Nothing of that smile indicated that he did not care.
LOL. Ummmmm I don't know what to say on this dude. I hope you were drunk when you typed this.:shock: I am kind embarrassed for ya.:?
Charlemagne
Hall of Fame
It was a wry/sardonic smile- laughing at the absurdity of how badly he was playing on clay
veroniquem
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Or maybe it was a nervous smile. I think he was a bit embarrassed by his perf in front of his home crowd
I have always felt Rafa sort of played a safe game. But now looking at how he is shanking so badly it shows how precise and well timed his strokes need to be.
The Green Mile
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The bolded part yes. The smile to me seemed that, and it's what some people do when things are going badly. Hell I do it sometimes. He said in his speech that, that performance wasn't one he wanted to give in front of the Madrid crowd.
The Green Mile
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I'm not on the same page with this at all.
veroniquem
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And he played with his old racket right? So it's not a change of racket issue.
What I find ominous is that he couldn't put up a fight in this final. He was completely fresh, hadn't had a tough semi, hadn't played late, had lost early in Barcelona. So he should have had plenty in the tank to make the match close even if the win eluded him.
But he COULD not.
That is not a matchup issue like it was vs Djoko in 2011, and not a case of exhaustion like it was vs Fed in the 2009 final (because he had played a marathon semi vs Djoko the day before). That's a case of "Shankdal is in the house", same way it started with Fed-error.
That's a case of "the writing is on the wall" and I don't like it.
The one positive I see is that he made final. So he limited the points bleeding. And it's an upgrade from the hard season when he could not even reach semis.
fecaleagle
Professional
1 loss out of 4 is 1 loss and 3 wins. Now multiply 1 and 3 by 8. 8 losses and 24 wins would be 1 loss every 4 matches...
You are correct I am drunk.:shock:
Well I don't know. But I do know that I have totally underestimated the timing and precision that he needs to win. I always kind of felt he was sort of a pickup and Fed was a sports car. Maybe in some ways he was but in the past he could rely on his wheels to get him points. One thing I have noticed and you are pretty objective is that if you are willing and able to get in long rallies with Rafa at this stage in his career you will most likely win.
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
He'll have the Masters record for a few more months. He's lucky Novak skipped this one or he'd likely be 1 closer.
Rafa seems to be satisfied with his achievements. He has been on borrowed time given the brutal play he has on his body. No one thought hed last this long.
True Rafa fans have been appreciating what they have got since 2012. It has been gravy. It is sad to see the horrible play, but, Nadal has aged, and poor play comes with age.
I had a glimpse of what Fed fans say about Fed today and not playing if the play is bad.
Nadal like Fed is on a farewell tour, where they are each collecting more from sponsorship than actual play.
True Rafa fans have been appreciating what they have got since 2012. It has been gravy. It is sad to see the horrible play, but, Nadal has aged, and poor play comes with age.
I had a glimpse of what Fed fans say about Fed today and not playing if the play is bad.
Nadal like Fed is on a farewell tour, where they are each collecting more from sponsorship than actual play.
Kalin
Legend
What?
Yes, a 23-8 record means 23+8 matches were played which is 31 matches.
8 losses in 31 matches is pretty much 1 in 4 or, to be precise, one in 1 in 3.875
If Rafa wins his next match his record would become 24-8 and it would mean he has lost exactly 1 in 4 (8 out of 32)
MichaelNadal
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Sad, but true. Rafa will end up missing or going for too much.
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
It's amazing how profound your hatred of Federer is, that you're actually willing to watch Nadal pass Sampras in slam tally only so that you can gloat here and throw dirt at Federer. I sometimes have to wonder if you really are a Pete fan. Because I never really understood the Pete fans who now root for Nadal. They're not even remotely alike and most importantly, Roger and Pete are actually a lot closer.
I hope you realize, the more players pass Sampras, the more he loses relevance in minds of the upcoming generations of both, players and fans. Federer is actually kind enough to remind everyone on and off about how great Pete was. Nadal is just oblivious. But of course as long as you have a proverbial revenge over Federer for passing Pete, anything goes right?
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
Did you get a bad trip during the match from your bowl that gave you this epiphany?
I'm been saying this for months.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
You don't "trip" from weed
Nadal has been mugging it up for a year, it's no surprise. I'm saying it's sad but true that this is the case when from 05-2013 he was unbelievable in long rallies. He can decline from here on out, I will always picture him winning the best rallies, that's the legacy he's left.
mandy01
G.O.A.T.
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA....You're so funny :lol:
these "trophies" ? just glass and metal... why should i care about this stuff, man ?!
hombre... rafastarianism is beyond all this material crap, it's all about winning morally and socially, no ?
tennis_commentator
Hall of Fame
Nadal has lost Madrid 9 times.
Should it really be a big deal?
He lost Madrid most years that he won Roland Garros.
He's in the form necessary to sweep Rome-Roland Garros.
Feather
Legend
Eactly! I was a Pete fan, and I gladly became a Roger fan. It's amazing how you can hate a person, that too a Tennis player this much
racquetreligion
Hall of Fame
Fognini acted like he didnt care to beat Nads,
more should take this approach except Le Monf
more should take this approach except Le Monf
23:8 is about 75% winrate. So, this isn't that terrible.
But winrate doesn't tell the full story. It's flawed. It matters what matches you win and in what order. Are those big matches in important tournaments or are they 7 in a row.
You can have 7-20 record, but those 7 wins are consecutive wins at a slam and you win a major. Or you can have 20-7 record, but still never win a tournament.
So, I don't see how winrate is relevant.
But winrate doesn't tell the full story. It's flawed. It matters what matches you win and in what order. Are those big matches in important tournaments or are they 7 in a row.
You can have 7-20 record, but those 7 wins are consecutive wins at a slam and you win a major. Or you can have 20-7 record, but still never win a tournament.
So, I don't see how winrate is relevant.
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