Rank the 3 slam winners for women

Trillus

Banned
How would you rank the 3 slam winning women such as Capriati, Davenport, Ann Jones, Virginia Wade, and Maria Sharapova. Lets exclude Clijsters who is almost certain to win more than her current 3. Here would be mine:

1. Lindsay Davenport- By far the best female player with only 3 slams. 55 tournament titles, 4 year end #1s, and an addition 4 slam finals. Some extremely bad luck not to have won atleast 5 slams in her career.

2. Ann Jones- A clay court specialist who still managed to beat King and Court at their peaks back to back to win Wimbledon. A tremendous player who excelled in a very competitive time for womens tennis.

3. Jennifer Capriati- Only 14 tournament titles and no finals at Wimbledon or the U.S Open, however a period of brief dominance with 3 out of 5 slam victories. Plus an Olympic Gold medal, one of the biggest prizes in tennis. Showed her ability by battling the great Serena Williams in her prime, posting a very respectable 7-10 record with nearly all defeats (and wins) being in 3 sets. Gave the sport two of its greatest matches ever even in defeat with her performances in the 91 and 2003 U.S Open semis.

4. Maria Sharapova- A very consistent force in the womens game for several years, regularly making semis of major events and posting her share of wins such as her 3 slam titles at 3 different venues and WTA Championship title. Still a career that looks likely to have fizzled out fairly young, and was never close to being a dominant player, just one of the top contenders.

5. Virginia Wade- 3 slam victories and like Davenport over 50 tournament titles. A great player, but still I am just not as impressed with her as the others. Her Australian Open title was in a depleted field as usual around then, though she did beat Goolagong in the final. Her Wimbledon victory was also in a softer year with Court retired, King just coming back from retirement, her nemisis at Wimbledon Goolagong taking the year off, and Navratilova not a major contender yet. She posted one huge win over Chris Evert in the semis, but otherwise went through a soft draw to the title beating Betty Stove in a 3 set final. Her U.S Open title was probably her most impressive victory of all, going through a strong draw of players including Jones in the semis and a then dominant Billie Jean King in the final for the title. Generally not that strong a clay court performer. Was never close to the best player in the game, in fact was probably never even the 2nd best player in the game or part of the games biggest rivalry.
 

BTURNER

Legend
I am leaning toward Jones. She was the runner- up in no less than 6 other majors, three RG, 2 opens and another Wimbledon, in a very competitive era. She won 115 other titles but most were at very forgettable venues. Now if you use doubles success as a 'tie-breaker' There is no debate left. She got five major doubles/ mixed titles at three of the major venues
 

Trillus

Banned
I am leaning toward Jones. She was the runner- up in no less than 6 other majors, three RG, 2 opens and another Wimbledon, in a very competitive era. She won 115 other titles but most were at very forgettable venues. Now if you use doubles success as a 'tie-breaker' There is no debate left. She got five major doubles/ mixed titles at three of the major venues

One hard thing about the pre Open Era greats is their full # of tournament wins is never properly recorded.
 

fedhingis515

Semi-Pro
I know nothing about Ann Jones or Virginia Wade so I'm just gonna ignore them.

In terms of achievements:

1. Davenport (duh)
2. Sharapova
3. Capriati

Sharapova has won three of the four slams, Capriati two. Sharapova has won the WTA Championships and Indian Wells, two of the biggest tournaments outside the slams, Capriati neither. Sharapova has 22 singles titles, Capriati 14.

Also Capriati had some insane luck winning those three slams, Sharapova had her share of luck too, but nothing compared to all the fortunate events Capriati was granted. I don't see the big deal about winning a gold medal in tennis either. Though I do agree on what you said about her matches against Serena and her US Open matches.
 

Trillus

Banned
I consider the Olympic Gold medal the biggest achievement in tennis, even bigger than a Grand Slam. Had it not been for her Olympic Gold medal I would have undoubtably rated Capriati at the bottom as the rest of her career is clearly inferior to the others.
 

fedhingis515

Semi-Pro
Can you really consider an Olympic Gold Medal superior to a Grand Slam, say Wimbledon?

In tennis, I consider a Gold Medal to be somewhere between a Masters 1000 and the Year End Championships. And I'm being quite generous by that.
 

Wuornos

Professional
In my humble opinion post WWII, I would have to go with:

1 Ann Haydon Jones 2752
2 Lindsay Davenport 2745
3 Jennifer Capriati 2739
4 Maria Sharapova 2725
5 Darlene Hard 2712
6 Kim Clijsters 2705
7 Virginia Wade 2678
8 Angela Mortimer 2662

Tim
 

Trillus

Banned
Can you really consider an Olympic Gold Medal superior to a Grand Slam, say Wimbledon?

In tennis, I consider a Gold Medal to be somewhere between a Masters 1000 and the Year End Championships. And I'm being quite generous by that.

Yes I consider an Olympic Gold Medal superior to Wimbledon. The Olympics happens once every 4 years. There are 4 Grand Slams a year. It isnt as far ahead of the next biggest achievement as in more traditional Olympic sports but it is still the biggest achievement in tennis. Andre Agassi, Roger Federer, and many others have said an Olympic Gold medal is the thing they wanted to win above all else.
 

rolandg

Semi-Pro
Yes I consider an Olympic Gold Medal superior to Wimbledon. The Olympics happens once every 4 years. There are 4 Grand Slams a year. It isnt as far ahead of the next biggest achievement as in more traditional Olympic sports but it is still the biggest achievement in tennis. Andre Agassi, Roger Federer, and many others have said an Olympic Gold medal is the thing they wanted to win above all else.

Lol crazy talk
 

Limpinhitter

G.O.A.T.
How would you rank the 3 slam winning women such as Capriati, Davenport, Ann Jones, Virginia Wade, and Maria Sharapova. Lets exclude Clijsters who is almost certain to win more than her current 3. Here would be mine:

1. Lindsay Davenport- By far the best female player with only 3 slams. 55 tournament titles, 4 year end #1s, and an addition 4 slam finals. Some extremely bad luck not to have won atleast 5 slams in her career.

2. Ann Jones- A clay court specialist who still managed to beat King and Court at their peaks back to back to win Wimbledon. A tremendous player who excelled in a very competitive time for womens tennis.

3. Jennifer Capriati- Only 14 tournament titles and no finals at Wimbledon or the U.S Open, however a period of brief dominance with 3 out of 5 slam victories. Plus an Olympic Gold medal, one of the biggest prizes in tennis. Showed her ability by battling the great Serena Williams in her prime, posting a very respectable 7-10 record with nearly all defeats (and wins) being in 3 sets. Gave the sport two of its greatest matches ever even in defeat with her performances in the 91 and 2003 U.S Open semis.

4. Maria Sharapova- A very consistent force in the womens game for several years, regularly making semis of major events and posting her share of wins such as her 3 slam titles at 3 different venues and WTA Championship title. Still a career that looks likely to have fizzled out fairly young, and was never close to being a dominant player, just one of the top contenders.

5. Virginia Wade- 3 slam victories and like Davenport over 50 tournament titles. A great player, but still I am just not as impressed with her as the others. Her Australian Open title was in a depleted field as usual around then, though she did beat Goolagong in the final. Her Wimbledon victory was also in a softer year with Court retired, King just coming back from retirement, her nemisis at Wimbledon Goolagong taking the year off, and Navratilova not a major contender yet. She posted one huge win over Chris Evert in the semis, but otherwise went through a soft draw to the title beating Betty Stove in a 3 set final. Her U.S Open title was probably her most impressive victory of all, going through a strong draw of players including Jones in the semis and a then dominant Billie Jean King in the final for the title. Generally not that strong a clay court performer. Was never close to the best player in the game, in fact was probably never even the 2nd best player in the game or part of the games biggest rivalry.

None of these women have won any slams!
 

FiveO

Hall of Fame
Yes I consider an Olympic Gold Medal superior to Wimbledon. The Olympics happens once every 4 years. There are 4 Grand Slams a year. It isnt as far ahead of the next biggest achievement as in more traditional Olympic sports but it is still the biggest achievement in tennis. Andre Agassi, Roger Federer, and many others have said an Olympic Gold medal is the thing they wanted to win above all else.

Relatively speaking, no one gives a rodent's behind about Olympic Tennis Medals.


Small countries with little or no summer Olympic medal count historically will. For such countries to hold ANY Olympic medal, no matter how insignificant, as a national treasure and the winner of it as a national hero.

The rest of the world? The regular summer Olympic medal winning world? Not so much to not at all.

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boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Yes I consider an Olympic Gold Medal superior to Wimbledon. The Olympics happens once every 4 years. There are 4 Grand Slams a year. It isnt as far ahead of the next biggest achievement as in more traditional Olympic sports but it is still the biggest achievement in tennis. Andre Agassi, Roger Federer, and many others have said an Olympic Gold medal is the thing they wanted to win above all else.

So you'd rather have the career of Elena Dementieva than Jana Novotna? or Gabby Sabatini....
 

Trillus

Banned
So you'd rather have the career of Elena Dementieva than Jana Novotna? or Gabby Sabatini....

I believe Novotna and Sabatini have done better in other areas, winning more titles, more tier 1s or tiers 2s, 2 YECs for Gaby, 1 YEC title and 4 slam finals for Novotna. So overall no but because of considering everything. People also know Sabatini and Novotna played in a much tougher time for womens tennis and would have won more slams today, whereas Elena has the embarassing stigma of not winning a slam even in the weak era she is in. If Elena had played in the same time and had the careers of Gaby and Jana exactly in everyway except losing the slam final in the 1 slam each won, but winning an Olympic Gold, then yeah had that been the case (which of course it isnt) I would rather have had her career.

I dont think the Olympics is much bigger than a Slam event, just slightly. I know most rate it just behind or equal to say a Year End Event, and above a Masters or Tier 1. That is fine. Like I said it is one event which its value is subjective, there will be alot of differering opinions.
 

jrepac

Hall of Fame
Gold Medal

Can you really consider an Olympic Gold Medal superior to a Grand Slam, say Wimbledon?

In tennis, I consider a Gold Medal to be somewhere between a Masters 1000 and the Year End Championships. And I'm being quite generous by that.

But, in this particular case, she beat Steffi Graf, on clay..when she was just a kid. It was (and still is) a pretty impressive win.
 

fedhingis515

Semi-Pro
But, in this particular case, she beat Steffi Graf, on clay..when she was just a kid. It was (and still is) a pretty impressive win.

True... but how much more impressive and memorable would it be had she defeated Graf in a Wimbledon final? I rest my case.
 

Trillus

Banned
True... but how much more impressive and memorable would it be had she defeated Graf in a Wimbledon final? I rest my case.

Actually when you put it that way I see your point. Still I think the Olympics should be seen as about on par with a WTA Championships or ATP World Championships. It should be seen as superior to a Masters for men or tier 1 title for women.
 

Steffi-forever

Hall of Fame
1 Ann Haydon Jones 2752
2 Lindsay Davenport 2745
3 Jennifer Capriati 2739
4 Maria Sharapova 2725
5 Darlene Hard 2712
6 Kim Clijsters 2705
7 Virginia Wade 2678
8 Angela Mortimer 2662

Tim

Why the peak of Sharapova is higher than Clijsters?
She never had a year like Clijsters had in 2003 :
Sydney WON
Australian Open SF
Antwerp F
Scottsdale F
Indian Wells WON
Miami SF
Berlin F
Rome WON
Roland Garros F
's-Hertogenbosch WON
Wimbledon SF
Stanford WON
San Diego F
Los Angeles WON
US Open F
Filderstadt WON
Luxembourg WON
Masters WON

or in 2005 :
Indian Wells WON
Miami WON
Warsaw SF
Roland Garros 4R
Eastbourne WON
Wimbledon 4R
Stanford WON
San Diego QF
Los Angeles WON
Toronto WON
US Open WON
Filderstadt QF
Luxambourg WON
 
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