Rankings after FO

[FedEx23]

There will be a number of changes after the French Open in terms of rankings.

The current rankings are as follows:

1. Federer 10,030
2. Nadal 6,880
3. Djokovic 6,405
4. Murray 5,565
5. Davy 5,145
6. Delpo 5,115
7. Soder 4,755
8. Roddick 4,600

There are a few battles going on between a few players. Nadal winning the French Open would move him to No. 1. Federer would then move to No.2.
There is no way for Djokovic to take over the No. 1 ranking, because winning the French would only get him to 8,315 points, where Fed will have 8,390 after the French. So a battle between Fed and Nadal exists.

Another battle is between Djokovic and Nadal for No. 2 and 3. Nadal could fall to No. 3 if he loses to Djokovic in a possible semifinal. Nadal would leave with 7,420 points, and Djokovic would emerge with either 7,515 as a finalist or 8,315 as a winner.

Murray will remain at No. 4 unless Soderling wins the tournament. Murray will have 5,385 points after the French, but if Soderling wins, he'll have 5,555 points, moving him in the No. 4 slot, pushing Murray to No. 5 and Davydenko to No. 6. If Soderling is a finalist, he will be 30 points short of overtaking Davydenko's spot and will move up to No. 6 and Davydenko will stay at 5. Del Potro could move to No. 8 if Soderling makes the final. If Soderling loses in the semis, Soderling will drift to No. 8 and Delpo will be No. 7 and Roddick will be No. 6. Roddick can't do worse than No. 7.

For Berdych, he lost in the first round last year at the French, so he's going to gain major points. At No. 17 in the world, Berdych has 2,115 points. He has 10 points from last year and making the semis guarantees him 2,825 points. As a finalist, he'll get 3,305 points and winning the French would give him 4,105 points. That would move him to No. 9 in the world, I think.

***Disclaimer***
Sorry if this is inaccurate. I hope I did all of the calculations correctly and let me know if anything is wrong.

 

[Telepatic]

Fed: 10,030 - 1640 = 8390
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If Nadal wins:

Nadal: 6,880 + 1820 = 8700 (would become new #1)
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If Djokovic wins:

Djokovic 6,405 + 1910 = 8315 (wouldn't become new #1 but very near it)

 

[FedEx23]

In addition, regardless of what happens at the French, Nadal should regain the No. 1 ranking at Wimbledon if he simply makes it into the second week of Wimbledon. That is, if he wins the French. But his taking over the No. 1 ranking is inevitable, and as a Federer fan, that's hard to admit.

 

[aphex]

There will be a number of changes after the French Open in terms of rankings.

The current rankings are as follows:

1. Federer 10,030
2. Nadal 6,880
3. Djokovic 6,405
4. Murray 5,565
5. Davy 5,145
6. Delpo 5,115
7. Soder 4,755
8. Roddick 4,600

There are a few battles going on between a few players. Nadal winning the French Open would move him to No. 1. Federer would then move to No.2.
There is no way for Djokovic to take over the No. 1 ranking, because winning the French would only get him to 8,315 points, where Fed will have 8,390 after the French. So a battle between Fed and Nadal exists.

Another battle is between Djokovic and Nadal for No. 2 and 3. Nadal could fall to No. 3 if he loses to Djokovic in a possible semifinal. Nadal would leave with 7,420 points, and Djokovic would emerge with either 7,515 as a finalist or 8,315 as a winner.

Murray will remain at No. 4 unless Soderling wins the tournament. Murray will have 5,385 points after the French, but if Soderling wins, he'll have 5,555 points, moving him in the No. 4 slot, pushing Murray to No. 5 and Davydenko to No. 6. If Soderling is a finalist, he will be 30 points short of overtaking Davydenko's spot and will move up to No. 6 and Davydenko will stay at 5. Del Potro could move to No. 8 if Soderling makes the final. If Soderling loses in the semis, Soderling will drift to No. 8 and Delpo will be No. 7 and Roddick will be No. 6. Roddick can't do worse than No. 7.

For Berdych, he lost in the first round last year at the French, so he's going to gain major points. At No. 17 in the world, Berdych has 2,115 points. He has 10 points from last year and making the semis guarantees him 2,825 points. As a finalist, he'll get 3,305 points and winning the French would give him 4,105 points. That would move him to No. 9 in the world, I think.

***Disclaimer***
Sorry if this is inaccurate. I hope I did all of the calculations correctly and let me know if anything is wrong.

i think its correct except the last part. the winner gets 2000 points, so it's impossible for birdy to get the points you're saying.

 

[forzamilan90]

In addition, regardless of what happens at the French, Nadal should regain the No. 1 ranking at Wimbledon if he simply makes it into the second week of Wimbledon. That is, if he wins the French. But his taking over the No. 1 ranking is inevitable, and as a Federer fan, that's hard to admit.

thing is, if nadal wins french and wimby, guess what next year he'll be defending a ton of points (this whole process of defending points might might work against him next year, as fed won't have anything to defend besides australian and if he wins wimby and beyond)

 

[Agassifan]

I am hoping for a Soderling win. That'll get him into the Top 5 and that's where he belongs.

 

[FedEx23]

i think its correct except the last part. the winner gets 2000 points, so it's impossible for birdy to get the points you're saying.

Well if he wins he'll get 1990 points, not 2000, because he already has 10 to defend from last year's first round departure. So 2,115+1,990 is 4,105

 

[bobbylechat]

exactly forzamilan ! the situation roger is facing now can easily be repeated next year for rafa, still, roger has to defend some points if he wants to keep close.

 

[FedEx23]

thing is, if nadal wins french and wimby, guess what next year he'll be defending a ton of points (this whole process of defending points might might work against him next year, as fed won't have anything to defend besides australian and if he wins wimby and beyond)

This is so true. Federer really did nothing at Indian Wells and Miami, and has room to improve at Rome. He can gain points in Canada this year where host lost in the QF last year, make it past the R32 in Paris in the fall and actually participate in the Shanghai and Tokyo events this fall. He can gain points at next year's French as well. He has room to improve, as well as Nadal I suppose.

 

[ace high]

why does fed loose points if he looses?

 

[robow7]

so where is Nadal if he were to lose the final, not that I think that might happen?

 

[Telepatic]

so where is Nadal if he were to lose the final, not that I think that might happen?

He would have 8k points, 300 behind Fed, so still #2.

 

[TennisandMusic]

thing is, if nadal wins french and wimby, guess what next year he'll be defending a ton of points (this whole process of defending points might might work against him next year, as fed won't have anything to defend besides australian and if he wins wimby and beyond)

I honestly, HONESTLY, hope that by this time this year we have more players in the mix than Nadal and Federer. I don't see anyone replacing Nadal as my favorite, but it's been like six years of this Nadal and Federer show. It's gotten old.

We really need more players to step up and show some balls and make it a real tour. Thankfully Soderling seems to be doing just that.

 

[Dutch-Guy]

so where is Nadal if he were to lose the final, not that I think that might happen?

Nadal: 6880-180+1200(final)=7900. Still behind Federer.
If he wins: 6880-180+2000=8700 'd make #1.

 

[OddJack]

What I cared the most was the 286 weeks record. The 23 SF is safe, for as long as we are around to care.

Rodge is now tantalizing close at 285, if Nadal wins he is behind only 310 points. He can still break it this year.

It's records that matter now. The second FO would be nice but at 29 and these younger players up and coming it's not a realistic expectation.

 

[Andy G]

I really hope someone takes out Nadal, but I don't think it's likely. He'll have one awesome clay season, sweeping Monte Carlo, Rome, Madrid and the FO. But, I want Fed to bounce that 286. I want to see Fed make it to 300 weeks #1. I think at this point, with Fed's age(favors nadal) and clay season ending(favors fed), they will bounce back and forth for a while at #1. A couple weeks here, a couple there. Fed still has gas in the tank. He could bounce around to 300+ weeks.

 

[OddJack]

^^^^

Rodge has tons of points to defend from now to end of the year. Nadal can distance himself by doing good at W.
It may take a while, but he needs to keep it close so he will have his chances at it.

 

[FedEx23]

^^^^

Rodge has tons of points to defend from now to end of the year. Nadal can distance himself by doing good at W.
It may take a while, but he needs to keep it close so he will have his chances at it.

There will be a huge points swing after Wimbledon. Fed could lose around 1000 points and Nadal could gain 2000, widening the gap to 3000 points. Fed may have a tough time regaining No. 1. Imagine if Fed retires at 286 alongside Sampras. How crazy would that be?

 

[Rhino]

I am rooting for Soderling or Djokovic. Or Berdych.
Or Almagro.

 

[Rhino]

Imagine if Fed retires at 286 alongside Sampras. How crazy would that be?

Won't he be at 285 weeks if Nadal wins? So he may never even equal Pete!

 

[MRG]

If Nadal win FO then go into Wimbledon, he will only further consolidate his lead. Nadal skipped and Federer won Wimbledon last year. Federer only can defend his points this year and losing big chunk of points if he lose in any round. For Nadal, he can only gain points over Federer in Wimbledon.

And even if Nadal lose in FO, he will have another chance to be #1 after Wimbledon.

 

[MRG]

If Nadal win FO then go into Wimbledon, he will only further consolidate his lead. Nadal skipped and Federer won Wimbledon last year. Federer only can defend his points this year and losing big chunk of points if he lose in any round. For Nadal, he can only gain points over Federer in Wimbledon.

And even if Nadal lose in FO, he will have another chance to be #1 after Wimbledon.

 

[angiebaby]

I am rooting for Soderling or Djokovic. Or Berdych.
Or Almagro.

Anyone but Rafa eh?

 

[FedEx23]

Won't he be at 285 weeks if Nadal wins? So he may never even equal Pete!

Roger will be at 286, tying Pete, this coming Monday when the new rankings come out. Roger is going to have quite a tough time catching up to Nadal when he wins the French on Sunday.

 

[Rhino]

Roger will be at 286, tying Pete, this coming Monday when the new rankings come out. Roger is going to have quite a tough time catching up to Nadal when he wins the French on Sunday.

But Roger is currently 285 weeks at No. 1 (as of May 31st, 2010).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_World_Tour_records#Rankings

If Rafa wins the final on Sunday 6th, then the rankings on Monday 7th will put Rafa at #1 and mean that Roger never actually gets his 286th week.

Or am I wrong?

 

[Rhino]

Anyone but Rafa eh?

You could have said anyone but Melzer. But actually I'd love to see Melzer in a slam final.

 

[FedEx23]

But Roger is currently 285 weeks at No. 1 (as of May 31st, 2010).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_World_Tour_records#Rankings

If Rafa wins the final on Sunday 6th, then the rankings on Monday 7th will put Rafa at #1 and mean that Roger never actually gets his 286th week.

Or am I wrong?

Yeah, and as of Monday June 7th, it will go up to 286 full weeks.

 

[TennisandMusic]

I think it's amazing that after ALL this time Federer is just now about to tie/surpass Sampras. Shows how good the guy really was. People talk about him on this board like he was trash.

 

[FedEx23]

I think it's amazing that after ALL this time Federer is just now about to tie/surpass Sampras. Shows how good the guy really was. People talk about him on this board like he was trash.

Sampras first became No. 1 in April 1993 and relinquished No. 1 for the last time in Nov 2000. So that's 7 years, 7 months. right there. Federer has a chance to break the record in 6 years, 4 months. Pretty impressive. The amazing part is that 237 of those weeks were consecutive for Federer, unlike Pistol, who frequently had to win back his No. 1 ranking at year's end.