Review: Wilson Pro Staff 97 (315 gram version)

time_fly

Hall of Fame
Funny thing is that the numbers themselves were pretty high, which was weird for a racquet that they had so many verbal complaints about?

Yeah, I thought the same thing. I couldn't decide if they were just nit-picking a good frame, or if they didn't really like it but were afraid to give the new version of such a popular frame bad ratings.

The other thing is that the comparable racquets listed are high-powered by my standards, mostly 100 sq in heads like the Prince Warrior 100 and Yonex EZONE Xi 100, but they list the frame as "low power / full swing". I'm really wondering how much power to expect, but I guess I will find out soon.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
The numbers are generous, but the critique is sharp and a rebuff to those who think their reviews are not objective.

Powder puff reviews are the exclusive property of TT.
 

drumnman2

Rookie
Three out of four play testers gave it pretty scary numbers for control. Inconsistent string beds are not welcome at all for me.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, I thought the same thing. I couldn't decide if they were just nit-picking a good frame, or if they didn't really like it but were afraid to give the new version of such a popular frame bad ratings.

The other thing is that the comparable racquets listed are high-powered by my standards, mostly 100 sq in heads like the Prince Warrior 100 and Yonex EZONE Xi 100, but they list the frame as "low power / full swing". I'm really wondering how much power to expect, but I guess I will find out soon.

The power level is pretty good. On par with a Blade 98.
 

gplracer

Hall of Fame
my 12 year old hit with this today and he played very well. He usually plays with a 6.1 95s so the specs are similar. This was definitely heavier. He had consistent shots and felt confident staying on the gas.
 
The power level is pretty good. On par with a Blade 98.

Is it easier to swing than the Blade 98? I thought the Blade 98 16x19 had good power but due to a slightly head heavy balance, it felt sluggish. In addition, balls would sail long most of the time.
 

EasternRocks

Hall of Fame
Increasing the tension on these frames. Was at 55/52, VS Touch/Luxilon ALU with the Speed Pro and went to 56/54 at first with these, but am missing a few balls just a little long so I am trying to gain a little more control, by bumping up the tension to 59/56
 
Increasing the tension on these frames. Was at 55/52, VS Touch/Luxilon ALU with the Speed Pro and went to 56/54 at first with these, but am missing a few balls just a little long so I am trying to gain a little more control, by bumping up the tension to 59/56

Let us know how this compares to the Speed Pro, easier to swing, more stable, better on serves, ground strokes, etc..
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Is it easier to swing than the Blade 98? I thought the Blade 98 16x19 had good power but due to a slightly head heavy balance, it felt sluggish. In addition, balls would sail long most of the time.

a little easier yes. Like a 325ish swinweight vs a 330 one.
 

chizzle

Rookie
Jack, saw your review. Good stuff.

I have to say, I don't like the ALU after a couple of hours. I found Solinco TB 16 to have more staying tension and control.

INterestingly, I'm finding the FH tough to dial in. Yet, can't miss a BH (2HBH). Serves bombs

Anyone try a multi or hybrid? Not sure all poly in this is the best way to go.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Jack, saw your review. Good stuff.

I have to say, I don't like the ALU after a couple of hours. I found Solinco TB 16 to have more staying tension and control.

INterestingly, I'm finding the FH tough to dial in. Yet, can't miss a BH (2HBH). Serves bombs

Anyone try a multi or hybrid? Not sure all poly in this is the best way to go.

I would love to try a 5g lighter than spec PS97 with full multi.
 

tlm

G.O.A.T.
I would love to try a 5g lighter than spec PS97 with full multi.

Check if there is an Asian model available. I purchased an Asian model BLX 90 a few years ago that was over an ounce lighter than the standard model.
 
I pulled the trigger and ordered the racquet. The specs look good so I thought I give this a racquet a shot. There are not demos for a while and it's very hard to find one in stock. Any suggestions as far as tension goes for a full poly setup?
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
I pulled the trigger and ordered the racquet. The specs look good so I thought I give this a racquet a shot. There are not demos for a while and it's very hard to find one in stock. Any suggestions as far as tension goes for a full poly setup?

I would go very low if you want some pocketing and to take away some of the stiffness. The racquet plays very firm with little flex. I would say 45-50.
 

Galdust

Rookie
How does the PS97 compare to the Yonex EZONE Ai 98 and/or the Donnay Pro one 97 (16x19) in terms of power, control, spin potential, comfort etc.?

Edit: Just noticed JackB1's comparison of the Ai 98 and PS97 in another thread. More opinions are welcome ;)
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
I just received mine a few minutes ago. 331g strung with Kirschbaum ProLine 2 17ga but no overgrip or dampener -- probably makes it about ~312g unstrung. I regularly play the Ai98 so I will post a comparison in the next few days.

The big question is, my first opportunity to play is later tonight in a singles league match at the club. Do I dare give it its first try out as a match? There's no money riding on this one but I don't want to lose and blame the racquet. :)
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
I just received mine a few minutes ago. 331g strung with Kirschbaum ProLine 2 17ga but no overgrip or dampener -- probably makes it about ~312g unstrung. I regularly play the Ai98 so I will post a comparison in the next few days.

The big question is, my first opportunity to play is later tonight in a singles league match at the club. Do I dare give it its first try out as a match? There's no money riding on this one but I don't want to lose and blame the racquet. :)

It's pretty easy to pick up and play with, so go for it! Especially if u are used to the AI98.
 

Dasol

Rookie
my impression of the pro staff 97

Ok, I had chance to play with the ps97 today, for about an hour and half, and overall I liked it.

Yes, it is a stiff racquet, but I do not want to say it is uncomfortably stiff. It is hard to describe the feel of it, but I would say that the feel is kind of "raw." For me, both the blade line and the 6.1 line feel stiff and the blade feels crisper than the 6.1 line. The 6.1 line, though it is still stiff, is somehow 'dull' to me.

Compared to the blade and the 6.1, I personally think that the ps 97 definitely feels cleaner. It definitely does not have the soft/plush feel of the previous prostaff.

It has good controllable power, and yes, the sweet spot size is good. it has enough mass at the head too, so it felt solid for groundstorkes and volley.

This is my first impression, and I will report more.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
One thing I can tell immediately just by bouncing a ball in the house is that the sweet spot is more centered in the PS97. In the Ai98 it is pushed out a bit towards the tip.
 

Hui

New User
How did this racket compare to the Graphene Prestige Pro? Did you try both rackets? What about the 97 autograph?
 

BHBeguile

Semi-Pro
Ok, I had chance to play with the ps97 today, for about an hour and half, and overall I liked it.

Yes, it is a stiff racquet, but I do not want to say it is uncomfortably stiff. It is hard to describe the feel of it, but I would say that the feel is kind of "raw." For me, both the blade line and the 6.1 line feel stiff and the blade feels crisper than the 6.1 line. The 6.1 line, though it is still stiff, is somehow 'dull' to me.

Compared to the blade and the 6.1, I personally think that the ps 97 definitely feels cleaner. It definitely does not have the soft/plush feel of the previous prostaff.

It has good controllable power, and yes, the sweet spot size is good. it has enough mass at the head too, so it felt solid for groundstorkes and volley.

This is my first impression, and I will report more.

Got mine yesterday and played with it tonight. I agree completely -- it's not as plush as my PS95S, but it's not as harsh as the 6.1 95S I had played with in the past. I tend to hit flat and have been using the spin models to get a little extra margin, but I found the PS97 very spin-friendly (both topspin and slice). Despite the absence of the thinner box beam, the frame felt maneuverable, and I was able to get some nice spin on my OHBH. With a Wilson Sensation overgrip and a dampener, it came out to 335 strung. It has good power so I don't have to work as hard; as long as I can get some spin on the ball, I can be confident it will land deep. Serves were hit-or-miss, but I suspect with more time I'll get dialed in.

I don't like to purchase a racquet at full price without a demo, but I'm glad I took the chance on this one.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
I played my match with the PS97 tonight, so I will post my first impressions. Mine is strung at 52 lbs with Kirschbaum Pro Line II, an identical string setup to my Ai98 so I can give them a fair comparison.

The biggest difference is in the head and string bed. The head on the PS97 feels a bit lighter and more maneuverable, however it is slightly less stable. Maybe I just didn't have a great net game today, but I found it to be slightly less solid and reliable at the net than the Ai98.

I think the enormous sweet spot is the reason that other reviewers claim that the PS97 plays softer than it really is. The Ai98 feels crisp across the entire bed with relatively little dwell time, and a direct hit on the center feels only somewhat more lively than off-center hits. It's true that impacts are muted with the Ai98 because it is relatively flexible, but there is still a noticeable impact on most of my hits. In contrast, the PS97 has a huge sweet spot where the impact is barely felt and the power is amazing. It does drop off quickly and the frame stiffness becomes apparent outside of that area, but you have to miss pretty badly to not hit that big sweet zone.

Otherwise, the two racquets swing similarly in terms of weight and feel and have about the same spin potential. I had no trouble adjusting my serve to the PS97 so I would say that they were pretty similar there, too. I didn't feel like I had my best serve going today so I can't say which ultimately is better.

To summarize, the key difference between the racquets is the huge PS97 sweet zone that feels plush and generates tremendous power. The Ai98, in contrast, feels a bit more crisp across the whole string bed and provides more feedback and stability. The maximum power levels are probably similar but access to power is easier on the PS97. I did not get the chance to try any cute touch shots with the PS97, but I suspect they are not a strong point for this frame. However, although I didn't feel confident that I had pin-point precision with the frame, I did find it very forgiving in terms of slight timing and positioning mistakes in my strokes -- probably moreso than the Ai98.

I will certainly post again and revise my assessment once I've hit a few more times with these frames back-to-back.
 
Interesting you mentioned that it plays similar to the AI 98. Having owned the AI 98 for a few months, I can definitely say that's a good thing. The AI 98 swings effortless but I found myself hitting flatter shots with it and I didn't really like the flex. I felt the flex took away the ability to generate heavy topspin ball.

My current racquet is the Graphene Speed Pro and I will be stringing up the PS 97 with Head Hawk at 50lbs to compare over the weekend.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
I find the dwell time on the Ai98 to be pretty short for how flexible it allegedly is. I am capable of generating a lot of spin with it, however, due to the open string pattern and relatively low tension 17ga poly. But I think if you have a flatter swing and a tighter string bed then it will hit pretty flat shots. If I were to change the stringing to make these racquets more comparable, I would probably increase the tension on the PS97.
 

tennisinoc

Semi-Pro
Does anyone notice there are NO amplifeel technology pallets on their PS97?
Wilson says these are supposed to have the Amplifeel technology pallets as stated on their website. Mine does not.
 
I find the dwell time on the Ai98 to be pretty short for how flexible it allegedly is. I am capable of generating a lot of spin with it, however, due to the open string pattern and relatively low tension 17ga poly. But I think if you have a flatter swing and a tighter string bed then it will hit pretty flat shots. If I were to change the stringing to make these racquets more comparable, I would probably increase the tension on the PS97.

Yes that is definitely true. I would have thought with a more open string pattern, it would provide me with more spin than my current Graphene Speed Pro which has a much denser 18x20 string pattern.

I guess this weekend I will find out more about the PS 97.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
Does anyone notice there are NO amplifeel technology pallets on their PS97?
Wilson says these are supposed to have the Amplifeel technology pallets as stated on their website. Mine does not.

The PS97 I demo'd didn't have them either.
 

macguyvur

Rookie
Sent you a PM

I blindly assumed that even if I couldn't PM you that I could receive a PM from you. I guess that's not the case -- can't find it anywhere in my control panel/etc. Must be because I'm a newby on these boards? I guess we'll have to go with traditional email: (without spaces): bulfrg [at] mac [dot] com. Thanks so much! I'm leaving the country soon and can't bear to leave without this stick! Much appreciated.
 

Matchball

Semi-Pro
Does anyone notice there are NO amplifeel technology pallets on their PS97?
Wilson says these are supposed to have the Amplifeel technology pallets as stated on their website. Mine does not.

My frame does not have Amplifeel either; considering how stiff this frame feels (unexpectedly brassy) it is rather frustrating...
 

EasternRocks

Hall of Fame
I know some people have posted, but I'd like to bring it up again for some further discussion. Can people who have played with both the PS 97 and the AI 98 just talk about which of the two they preferred and maybe why? What are the pro's and con's to each frame in your opinions?
 

tennisinoc

Semi-Pro
Does anyone notice there are NO amplifeel technology pallets on their PS97?
Wilson says these are supposed to have the Amplifeel technology pallets as stated on their website. Mine does not.

Well it is OFFICIAL. It was confirmed by TW and Wilson that there is NO Amplifeel in the new 97 Pro Staff line of rackets! That confirms my feedback on the RAW feel I felt with this frame. Too bad, I think it would have been great if it did have the Amplifeel handles. I just don't understand why they would advertise it on Wilson website and product description.
Maybe the next version, they will include it.
 

oldSchool

New User
I have switched to the PS97 because it feels to me like it has the best traits of the PS95, six-one 95, and Blade combined. I strung it with Wilson NXT Power 17g at 52 lbs and use a Gamma "double strip worm" vibration dampener to protect my elbow with chronic tendinitis. For me this still provides more than adequate feel and perfect comfort- much more comfort than any of the Wilson frames mentioned above, and more stability as well.
 

ec51

Rookie
Any news on the possible paint chipping issue with the PS97?

I've used mine for under 5 hours and already have a couple of chips with no contact being made to the court.
 

JackB1

G.O.A.T.
I have switched to the PS97 because it feels to me like it has the best traits of the PS95, six-one 95, and Blade combined. I strung it with Wilson NXT Power 17g at 52 lbs and use a Gamma "double strip worm" vibration dampener to protect my elbow with chronic tendinitis. For me this still provides more than adequate feel and perfect comfort- much more comfort than any of the Wilson frames mentioned above, and more stability as well.

I am intrigued. I would love to try the PS97 with NXT Power as well. How is the power with it strung that low? Do you still have adequate control? How big do you usually swing and what's your NTRP?
 

EasternRocks

Hall of Fame
Any news on the possible paint chipping issue with the PS97?

I've used mine for under 5 hours and already have a couple of chips with no contact being made to the court.

Yup. I had it. Wilson paint quality for ya. I posted in one of the PS 97 threads, either this one or the other one discussing it.
 

ec51

Rookie
Yup. I had it. Wilson paint quality for ya. I posted in one of the PS 97 threads, either this one or the other one discussing it.

I'm assuming this is something the Wilson warranty would not cover?

Has anyone ever had any luck with a replacement for excessive chipping?
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
You should get a refund. How are they going to find one that does not chip even if they offered a replacement? They are what they are. Fragile.
 

EasternRocks

Hall of Fame
^ No one has/will.
You pretty much have to suck it up or use a different frame. I'm using a different frame for performance reasons so I'm actually glad I don't have to deal with the paint anymore
 

Wanchope

Rookie
Head size

I don't know if have already talked about this. Today, I had the PS 97 (315 grams) in my hands for the first time in a retail and the first thing that called my attention was the small and narrow head size (it looked to me smaller than I expected for a 97 in.). I compared it with a six one 95 L and they seemed to have the same head size (even the six one looked wider in some parts)

Did anyone noticed it? Could anyone compare it to other similar rackets?
 

MasturB

Legend
I've had my racket for a week now, and have loved it.

I strung my racket with Cyber Blue at 52 on a Bab 5 star. At first the tension felt too high, now that I've played a bunch with my racket and the strings have loosened, I can groove my shots so looks like I'll drop the tension to around 45-47 pounds the next time I re-string.
 
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