Roger Federer

Cup8489

G.O.A.T.
Seriously guys, who are we to question this guy? I have seen two or three threads pop up today, and stats like him being 0-4 against the top 40 post AO and all this, but i ask you this:

Who are we to question this guy?

I mean seriously, he's answered every question, every doubt anyone has ever had once he reaches the majors. There's no reason to make any judgements on this guy's career anymore, especially not while he's playing in Estoril of all places. If he loses in the quarters or sooner at both of the next two majors, then we can talk. But until then, all of you should keep your mouths shut. He deserves that much from all of you haters, all you doubters. He's proven you wrong before, so be quiet until he proves his decline at the majors, where he actually has a vested interest.
 

sonicare

Hall of Fame
Seriously guys, who are we to question this guy? I have seen two or three threads pop up today, and stats like him being 0-4 against the top 40 post AO and all this, but i ask you this:

Who are we to question this guy?

I mean seriously, he's answered every question, every doubt anyone has ever had once he reaches the majors. There's no reason to make any judgements on this guy's career anymore, especially not while he's playing in Estoril of all places. If he loses in the quarters or sooner at both of the next two majors, then we can talk. But until then, all of you should keep your mouths shut. He deserves that much from all of you haters, all you doubters. He's proven you wrong before, so be quiet until he proves his decline at the majors, where he actually has a vested interest.

You have a good head on your shoulders.

Whatever fed does from now on is bonus rounds. I don't care if he goes 0-1000 till the end of his career. Guy is the most talented player ever to pick up a racket.
 

Rhino

Legend
Seriously guys, who are we to question this guy? I have seen two or three threads pop up today, and stats like him being 0-4 against the top 40 post AO and all this, but i ask you this:

Who are we to question this guy?

I mean seriously, he's answered every question, every doubt anyone has ever had once he reaches the majors. There's no reason to make any judgements on this guy's career anymore, especially not while he's playing in Estoril of all places. If he loses in the quarters or sooner at both of the next two majors, then we can talk. But until then, all of you should keep your mouths shut. He deserves that much from all of you haters, all you doubters. He's proven you wrong before, so be quiet until he proves his decline at the majors, where he actually has a vested interest.

Look I totally agree with this. Nobody can take away from all his great achievements. My thread about Federer being painful to watch, is just venting frustration about the manor of his last 4 losses.
I agree, Federer will show up at the slams, and until he doesn't we can only trust that he knows what he's doing.
 

leonardtay

Semi-Pro
And so what if he is not able to perform at the slams, what if he never wins another slam? The man has played his heart out, year in year out since breaking through and winning his first slam. He has fought tooth and nail when his body was not at its peak, he has seen his world number one and most coveted titles taken from him and fought and gotten them back. All I want now is for him to enjoy his tennis.
 
And so what if he is not able to perform at the slams, what if he never wins another slam? The man has played his heart out, year in year out since breaking through and winning his first slam. He has fought tooth and nail when his body was not at its peak, he has seen his world number one and most coveted titles taken from him and fought and gotten them back. All I want now is for him to enjoy his tennis.

I agree with this completely :).
 

OddJack

G.O.A.T.
Rodge will be fine. At almost 29 he needs to be careful about his schedule and his body. I am not saying he tanked that match, but he sure didnt fight like his career depends on it either. Those threads are started by some Nadal fans who sit in the corner and rub their hands like ugly witches. I would just disregard them.
 

CyBorg

Legend
People have every right to question the guy. They pay his salary.

Besides, Federer deserves a bit of criticism for his recent play. Although the endless bandwagoning is tiring.
 

leonardtay

Semi-Pro
People have every right to question the guy. They pay his salary.

Besides, Federer deserves a bit of criticism for his recent play. Although the endless bandwagoning is tiring.

He is short of match play, I would think he slacked off much more than usual after the AO and now his game is showing the effects of it. As a fan, it does frustrate me watching him off the pace on court but I believe he will get back in form with continued match play.
 

OddJack

G.O.A.T.
People have every right to question the guy. They pay his salary.

Besides, Federer deserves a bit of criticism for his recent play. Although the endless bandwagoning is tiring.

People can ask as many questions as they want but he doesn't have to answer anybody. The days they paid his salary are long gone, if there was any. He plays tennis because he enjoys doing so, not to please others or because he was paid to do so. He does it to achieve goals that are important to him and hence he has no obligation to satisfy anyone's expectations or desires.
"They pay his salary" and you thought you came up with a smart reason why he needs to be criticized or questioned. Whoever pays to watch him do so by their own choice whether they get what they want or not. He is not a Hollywood star acting for cinema goers who want to be Hancock or Ironman, he is a real person with real limitations and imperfections, so to think that he has somehow robbed you off your money because he lost a match or didnt perform the way you want is flat out ridiculous.
 
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Chezbeeno

Professional
I agree with the OP, considering the fact that he's the greatest tennis player in the history of the universe I think everybody should shut their yaps
 

nicolaisidek

Semi-Pro
the thing I can't stand is the fact that people usually replies with 'how arrogant of Fed...'. I know it's a joke but it's getting lame.
 
good points, he's proven everything at this point, it's just that what we have seen from him since the Australian Open is just mind boggling
 

MichaelChang

Hall of Fame
Federer has set a bar that is too high that when he loses a few matches in a row, the public start to criticise him. That is non sense. Look at Sampras, at his age 29, what did he do? He went on 2 years title-less before he won the last major and retire. Man! Give Federer a break. As I said the man has set the standard that is too high. You can't always use the same standard to judge him when he is at the last few years of his career. The man has nothing else to prove. He is a father and he is still the #1 of the world.
 

sh@de

Hall of Fame
To be honest, for me, even if he doesn't win any more slams and doesn't reach semis regularly any more etc. doesn't really matter. I mean, come on, he's basically got almost every single important record there is around, what more do you guys want?

If he decided to retire at this very instant, well, I would think it's a big shame, but hey, he's achieved so much, I think he's thoroughly earned his right to retire.

So, whatever he does, retire or not, playing crap or not, I think there's really not much for people to criticise him about. He's done that much over the past few years to earn this kind of status.
 

Cup8489

G.O.A.T.
I appreciate everyone's comments in this thread, I was beginning to think i was the only one who could see more than the last 3 months. I mean, the guy just won the Australian Open 4 1/2 months ago, have the *******s such short hindsight?

Federer has set a bar that is too high that when he loses a few matches in a row, the public start to criticise him. That is non sense. Look at Sampras, at his age 29, what did he do? He went on 2 years title-less before he won the last major and retire. Man! Give Federer a break. As I said the man has set the standard that is too high. You can't always use the same standard to judge him when he is at the last few years of his career. The man has nothing else to prove. He is a father and he is still the #1 of the world.

Yeah, I was thinking of this at work. Everyone is complaining about everyone in the top 4's form, bar Nadal, but they dont realize something: The top 4 are among the most dominant in tour history, and we've basically been spoiled, especially by Nadal and Federer ,for them doing so well so often. I could care less as a fan if either of these guys win ATP 500 tournaments, I only care about majors for Fed and Masters/Majors for Nadal. That's all that matters to them, so why should anything else matter to us? to me, it's nice to see other guys win titles for a change.
 

Outbeyond

Legend
He's already reached the pinnacle. Now he's trying, ever trying, to find inspiration for the tired old run ahead. And I don't think he's found what he's looking for.
 

Talker

Hall of Fame
Fed can't stay at the top forever. He's already given his fans enough thrills for a lifetime. Some never thought he'd get #14, then never thought he'd get the FO. Then making it back to #1.
He did it in dramatic fashion, especially the FO and #1, both seemed almost ridiculous awhile back.
The good thing about it was the excitement of how he did it.
It took alot to get his game working again at a high level, the final of the last AO was a beautiful performance, I've watched that final probably 10 times.
I don't believe it's over yet and more importantly either does Fed.
 

OddJack

G.O.A.T.
Fed can't stay at the top forever. He's already given his fans enough thrills for a lifetime. Some never thought he'd get #14, then never thought he'd get the FO. Then making it back to #1.
He did it in dramatic fashion, especially the FO and #1, both seemed almost ridiculous awhile back.
The good thing about it was the excitement of how he did it.
It took alot to get his game working again at a high level, the final of the last AO was a beautiful performance, I've watched that final probably 10 times.
I don't believe it's over yet and more importantly either does Fed.

Good talker
 

KingOfTennis

Professional
people can ***** about federer all they want on here. the stuff on heres never going to get to fed so it doesnt really matter.
 

mindgrinder

New User
People can ask as many questions as they want but he doesn't have to answer anybody. The days they paid his salary are long gone, if there was any. He plays tennis because he enjoys doing so, not to please others or because he was paid to do so. He does it to achieve goals that are important to him and hence he has no obligation to satisfy anyone's expectations or desires.
"They pay his salary" and you thought you came up with a smart reason why he needs to be criticized or questioned. Whoever pays to watch him do so by their own choice whether they get what they want or not. He is not a Hollywood star acting for cinema goers who want to be Hancock or Ironman, he is a real person with real limitations and imperfections, so to think that he has somehow robbed you off your money because he lost a match or didnt perform the way you want is flat out ridiculous.
well i know u r a huge fed fan, he has proven it time and again that he is the greatest. However, you need to accept ppl pay his salary, today he plays crap most ppl would stop buying products he endorses. There are many players who have lost contracts, to big companies, in some way or the other player plays for records or money to lift himself up in ppl's eye, gain respect. You can definitely look back and see what happen to people when they lose respect, be it tennis or any sport. You need to understand the term expectation its a bar set high every time and if you can't reach it all the time, ppl will ask question...i do not think there is something wrong in asking, if i am a fan of somebody it gives me complete right to do so.

Your possible argument might be that then don't be a fan, well FAN are ppl who believe in you so when something goes wrong they want to know what it is and still support you, its like a family of unknown ppl. This expectation and belief of ppl makes you achieve even more and be what you are today.

I feel cyborg is right by salary u don't mean just monetary benefits it means many other things that come along with it.
 
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Deleted member 22147

Guest
I appreciate everyone's comments in this thread, I was beginning to think i was the only one who could see more than the last 3 months. I mean, the guy just won the Australian Open 4 1/2 months ago, have the *******s such short hindsight?



Yeah, I was thinking of this at work. Everyone is complaining about everyone in the top 4's form, bar Nadal, but they dont realize something: The top 4 are among the most dominant in tour history, and we've basically been spoiled, especially by Nadal and Federer ,for them doing so well so often. I could care less as a fan if either of these guys win ATP 500 tournaments, I only care about majors for Fed and Masters/Majors for Nadal. That's all that matters to them, so why should anything else matter to us? to me, it's nice to see other guys win titles for a change.

So you do care then?
 

veroniquem

Bionic Poster
Fed can't stay at the top forever. He's already given his fans enough thrills for a lifetime. Some never thought he'd get #14, then never thought he'd get the FO. Then making it back to #1.
He did it in dramatic fashion, especially the FO and #1, both seemed almost ridiculous awhile back.
The good thing about it was the excitement of how he did it.



By Nadal getting injured and withdrawing from Wimbledon. Yeah that was truly exciting :-?
 

rocket

Hall of Fame
People have every right to question the guy. They pay his salary.

Besides, Federer deserves a bit of criticism for his recent play. Although the endless bandwagoning is tiring.

ppl who are highly critical of Fed hate him with a passion, and since they dislike him so much, they're not likely to buy any of his endorsed products. they're not likely to spend $$$$ to go watch his matches either.

so no, those ppl don't pay his salary. they're nothing but a bunch of detractors.
 

Talker

Hall of Fame
By Nadal getting injured and withdrawing from Wimbledon. Yeah that was truly exciting :-?


Part of being #1 is managing the schedule and being ready when it counts the most, Nadal has made countless mistakes in this area. Besides, one major without Nadal makes little difference.
 
L

Lover

Guest
According to your logic, we shouldn't question anyone who achieved great marks.

It's just a sport. No need to protect your idol from criticizers, we all know how good he is.
 

namelessone

Legend
The real worrying bit for Fed is finding motivation. The guy has broken most tennis records by age 28,has 14 Slams,16 Masters,Calendar Slam etc.

These losses come from lack of motivation. You can see it on Fed's face,how bored he gets in non-Slam events. No one can argue against that. The guy needs challenges,that's it. Fed can play crappy tennis in early rounds,both at non-slams and at Slams but turn it up when he meets on the young guns in tennis.

Compare how he played with Andreev in AO 2010 to how he played with davydenko and murray. Now take a look at the numerous undignified exits he made over the years in 500 and masters events. You know that that would never happen in a Slam.

Fed would be on his toes nowadays if he met only Murray's,Nadal's,DelPo's,Davydenko's and so on but can't find the fire when he meets small time guys in non-Slam events and thus rarely wins some of these events.

Can't say I would act any different in Fed's shoes. Every other player out there has his sight on something: Nadal wants 2 more RG and maybe USO for a Calendar slam,Murray is looking for his first slam,Roddick wants to win one last slam,what does Roger have to look forward to?

The only reasonable answer can be a Calendar Slam and maybe to surpass Sampras for WB titles. Also maybe to win one of each masters until the end of his career while he is at it. The point is that Fed has said he will play at least until 2012,he needs to set up some new objectives for himself.

Fed has elevated his game since 2001 to incredible heights and always wanted to win more things. 10 seasons later the guy has won almost everything in sight and has set numerous,probably unbreakable,records.

He needs to be focus on something. Just playing and seeing what will come of it won't work for him. Sure,I guess he can show up just at GS events but what will he do for the other 12 tourneys or so in one year,he can't just do semi-tanks like now. People will expect beautiful tennis for him since he has no pressure anymore. There is nothing more to prove so I don't understand why Fed doesn't give his all anymore. He should play freely IMO.
 

jackson vile

G.O.A.T.
It's the curse of the AO, it happend to Nadal and now it is happening to Roger... wooooo scarrryyyyy..... Everyone put on tin-foil hat from Drak LOL
 

Speranza

Hall of Fame
The real worrying bit for Fed is finding motivation. The guy has broken most tennis records by age 28,has 14 Slams,16 Masters,Calendar Slam etc.

These losses come from lack of motivation. You can see it on Fed's face,how bored he gets in non-Slam events. No one can argue against that. The guy needs challenges,that's it. Fed can play crappy tennis in early rounds,both at non-slams and at Slams but turn it up when he meets on the young guns in tennis.

Compare how he played with Andreev in AO 2010 to how he played with davydenko and murray. Now take a look at the numerous undignified exits he made over the years in 500 and masters events. You know that that would never happen in a Slam.

Fed would be on his toes nowadays if he met only Murray's,Nadal's,DelPo's,Davydenko's and so on but can't find the fire when he meets small time guys in non-Slam events and thus rarely wins some of these events.

Can't say I would act any different in Fed's shoes. Every other player out there has his sight on something: Nadal wants 2 more RG and maybe USO for a Calendar slam,Murray is looking for his first slam,Roddick wants to win one last slam,what does Roger have to look forward to?

The only reasonable answer can be a Calendar Slam and maybe to surpass Sampras for WB titles. Also maybe to win one of each masters until the end of his career while he is at it. The point is that Fed has said he will play at least until 2012,he needs to set up some new objectives for himself.

Fed has elevated his game since 2001 to incredible heights and always wanted to win more things. 10 seasons later the guy has won almost everything in sight and has set numerous,probably unbreakable,records.

He needs to be focus on something. Just playing and seeing what will come of it won't work for him. Sure,I guess he can show up just at GS events but what will he do for the other 12 tourneys or so in one year,he can't just do semi-tanks like now. People will expect beautiful tennis for him since he has no pressure anymore. There is nothing more to prove so I don't understand why Fed doesn't give his all anymore. He should play freely IMO.

Holmes: So many threads started here regarding Sir Federer over the last 24 hours, I don't know which to comment on. However, I would say I agree with many of the comments made in this post of yours namelessone.

Only those close to Sir Federer know what is going on with him, and I would pretty much guarantee that he will only say to the press that which he feels he wants the press (and thus its readers) to think. He will NOT necessarily speak the truth as regards how he feels regarding his own level of play.

From a personal point of view, I don't think he's tanking any matches, and for this reason:

Sir Federer seems to feed off the support and admiration he receives for his style and level of play. To intentionally play in the style he currently is will only negate the admiration he has received, at least in the eyes of some.

IMO, I feel that if he could avoid that criticism, he would. However, he's not playing well, and that's that. He cannot all the time, either can Sir Nadal, Sir Murray, Sir Djokovic et al....
 
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JeMar

Legend
Holmes: So many threads started here regarding Sir Federer over the last 24 hours, I don't know which to comment on. However, I would say I agree with many of the comments made in this post of yours namelessone.

Only those close to Sir Federer know what is going on with him, and I would pretty much guarantee that he will only say to the press that which he feels he wants the press and thus its readers to think. He will NOT necessarily the speak the truth as regards how he feels about his own level of play.

From a personal point of view, I don't think he's tanking any matches, and for this reason:

Sir Federer seems to feed off the support and admiration he receives for his style and level of play. To intentionally play in the style he currently is will only negate the admiration he has received, at least in the eyes of some. IMO, I feel that if he could avoid that criticism, he would. However, he's not playing well, and that's that. He cannot all the time, either can Sir Nadal, Sir Murray, Sir Djokovic et al....

Youi're my favorite new poster! Keep it up!

It's like Chopin, but with more flair.
 

OddJack

G.O.A.T.
well i know u r a huge fed fan, he has proven it time and again that he is the greatest. However, you need to accept ppl pay his salary, today he plays crap most ppl would stop buying products he endorses. There are many players who have lost contracts, to big companies, in some way or the other player plays for records or money to lift himself up in ppl's eye, gain respect. You can definitely look back and see what happen to people when they lose respect, be it tennis or any sport. You need to understand the term expectation its a bar set high every time and if you can't reach it all the time, ppl will ask question...i do not think there is something wrong in asking, if i am a fan of somebody it gives me complete right to do so.

Your possible argument might be that then don't be a fan, well FAN are ppl who believe in you so when something goes wrong they want to know what it is and still support you, its like a family of unknown ppl. This expectation and belief of ppl makes you achieve even more and be what you are today.

I feel cyborg is right by salary u don't mean just monetary benefits it means many other things that come along with it.

People can ask questions but he has no obligation to answer to anyone. I dont know who those fans are you are talking about but they need to grow up, or rather wake up. Roger Federer is not any type of Medium delusional people can live in or where they can find their unfulfilled dreams come true. Those fans you are talking about do not buy his products to support him, rather to be like him, and when they see their hero does not match the illusion in their brains they sit like a baby and cry how "painful" it is now to watch him.
And even there, what would you do if a product you're buying does not perform the way you want? You stop buying it. The only solution to your misery then would be to stop watching him. If as a results of his actions or shortcomings you feel depressed or disappointed then do not buy tickets or products he endorses.
It's either that or getting this into your heads that Federer is no Rambo or Hancock that can be the last man standing every time. And that he is not playing tennis because he needs you to buy tickets or Wilson racquet's or to suit your inner desires, he is doing it simply because he loves playing tennis and so he owes you nothing or have no obligation to answer your questions.

Federer still has plans for his future and will do what he can, within his limitations and capabilities, to get to where he wants to be. Fans can ride along on the side as spectators, or just drop off and find the next hero.


Cyborg is a high level smartass. He usually drops by to ridicule some posters and calls some others stupid. He is not worthy of any type of conversation because his brains froze in time a while back and is incapable of processing new data that enters. He now works as a comedian and can get a chuckle here and there when he is at his best.
 
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mindgrinder

New User
People can ask questions but he has no obligation to answer to anyone. I dont know who those fans are you are talking about but they need to grow up, or rather wake up. Roger Federer is not any type of Medium delusional people can live in or where they can find their unfulfilled dreams come true. Those fans you are talking about do not buy his products to support him, rather to be like him, and when they see their hero does not match the illusion in their brains they sit like a baby and cry how "painful" it is now to watch him.
And even there, what would you do if a product you're buying does not perform the way you want? You stop buying it. The only solution to your misery then would be to stop watching him. If as a results of his actions or shortcomings you feel depressed or disappointed then do not buy tickets or products he endorses.
It's either that or getting this into your heads that Federer is no Rambo or Hancock that can be the last man standing every time. And that he is not playing tennis because he needs you to buy tickets or Wilson racquet's or to suit your inner desires, he is doing it simply because he loves playing tennis and so he owes you nothing or have no obligation to answer your questions.

Federer has goals that are important to him and will do what he can to reach those goals. Fans can ride along on the side as spectators, or just drop off and find the next hero.


Cyborg is a high level smartass. He usually drops by to ridicule some posters and calls some others stupid. He is not worthy of any type of conversation because his brains froze in time a while back and is incapable of processing new data that enters. He now works as a comedian and can get a chuckle here and there when he is at his best.
well as per your statement, there should be no discussion ever on this board or any regarding any player. Whether its Rafa, Roger, Djoker anyone, we have no right to question em, neither does the media.
it comes to the same point, what would differentiate a pro from a non pro, even i love playing tennis but that doesn't mean, i perform. People or friends don't question simply cuz there are no expectations.

I believe all the pro's should not even appear for press conferences in that case, or even make fan pages for that matter.
 

OddJack

G.O.A.T.
well as per your statement, there should be no discussion ever on this board or any regarding any player. Whether its Rafa, Roger, Djoker anyone, we have no right to question em, neither does the media.
it comes to the same point, what would differentiate a pro from a non pro, even i love playing tennis but that doesn't mean, i perform. People or friends don't question simply cuz there are no expectations.

I believe all the pro's should not even appear for press conferences in that case, or even make fan pages for that matter.

Most of the conversations on these boards are around " who's better than who" not that they want to find answers to questions. From TW boards to ESPN press conferences they can ask any question they want and this is how the business is run. TW creates a community to promote the product it sells and ESPN and TC have to take care of their viewers. They ask their questions and they get their answers. e.g. Why have you not won a tourny for so long Rafa? A: I have to improve my confidence. OK. Why did you lost the match Roger? A: My timing was off. OK
The problem arises when the fans expect or demand what they are not entitled to or is out of theirs or players control: You have no right to have injuries Rafa and Roger you are not allowed to have bad timing on your FH because it spoils my popcorn evenings.
If they go through insomnia or sweat during their sleep because the hero they created for themselves loses is only their own fault, they better get a life of their own because there is no immortals in this world they can live within.
 
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I enjoy the older fed, more tension when watching his matches now.. no matter the opponent. Outcome, when it has mattered in the past, has been positive most of the time, and if not, it's been close... so I enjoy it even more.

With a fit Nadal I feel like he comes out and eats everyone not on par alive. (exaggeration, trying to make somekind of a point)
 

Speranza

Hall of Fame
Youi're my favorite new poster! Keep it up!

It's like Chopin, but with more flair.

Holmes: JeMar, that is an overtly generous compliment. Especially as I have been scouring various posts from the past, and have found your own to be of logical and objective sense. Why, only last night I was looking at your signature and admiring it.

Watson: You were indeed Holmes, and subsequently you felt a little agitated, did you not?

Holmes: In truth, yes Watson. The reason I felt agitated Jemar was that I wanted to add to a post you had referred to (in another thread), with reference to the wonderful words within your signature. However, Watson convinced me to 'save it' for another day. You will know what I mean when the time comes :)
 

pepe01

Rookie
You can not be serious !!!!.......who are yo to....

Seriously guys, who are we to question this guy? I have seen two or three threads pop up today, and stats like him being 0-4 against the top 40 post AO and all this, but i ask you this:

Who are we to question this guy?

I mean seriously, he's answered every question, every doubt anyone has ever had once he reaches the majors. There's no reason to make any judgements on this guy's career anymore, especially not while he's playing in Estoril of all places. If he loses in the quarters or sooner at both of the next two majors, then we can talk. But until then, all of you should keep your mouths shut. He deserves that much from all of you haters, all you doubters. He's proven you wrong before, so be quiet until he proves his decline at the majors, where he actually has a vested interest.

Well, why not to question this guy?, seriously...... i am a big fan of Federer, but if this guy start to play trash, or tank all his games o be lazy on all tournaments beside grand slams, why not, if all bad comments can wake up Roger from his clowd and be ready to RG, so go ahead, this will call it back up on Engineer lenguage, come on Federer is not a superman, he needs to be focus, he needs to play a lot of games on clay to be ready and do a good performence, he has a lot of fans and they deserve respect from Roger.

He es Goat, may be, to me, yes he is GOAT for that reason he needs to play fine and do his best, he has been take it easy, being lazy and skipping tournaments, so his game is trash already, i use to be recording every single game from Roger due he is may one of few professional tennis players with great technic, but his last match are trash, is sad, he is the goat he needs to be honest and give the best even if he can not do that, Nadal is a great exemple that guy has great actitud also Rodick, but they dont have Federer skills, so .....Yeap i can question Roger as a fan, and i dont care what you think.

Ups by the way OP great Subjet very explicit, are you writer?

Regards.
 
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Captain

New User
I haven't read all this thread.
Only to say, Federer lost the respect of many players here in Estoril. We may be wrong, but the impression was that he took his appearance money, over ten times more than the winners prize, sat through a rainy day on Saturday & decided to cut his losses, lose his semi & head straight off to Madrid. He didn't need the prize money, or the points, so why risk being blocked in Lisbon, as rain was forecast again Sunday. That's how many of us see it. It would be nice if he could put his hand on his heart & deny it, but he didn't look very interested in the match.
 
He's so arrogant thinking he's still the best player out there.

He thinks he's living in a world he's not actually living in. Just like
the Planet of the Apes movie.

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