Do you think Thiem really cares about Rome right now? He's the 2020 US Open Champion!PCB played the Semi Final in NYC on Friday and is already playing Rome 4 days later.
Thiem played NYC Final on Sunday but can't play Rome.
Rome should have been pushed 3 days and NYC should have held the SF on Thursday and Final on Saturday, just like the women.
No player is above the sport
Do you think Thiem really cares about Rome right now? He's the 2020 US Open Champion!
The ATP officials are putting the USO Finalists at a great disadvantage. They cannot play a clay warm up.
There was one month to plan for this. Rome was already preponed by one week. Common sense dictates that Rome be adjusted so that ALL USO players had an opportunity to play.
Rome is effectively punishing the two NYC finalists.
This never would have happened with a proper players union.
The ATP officials are putting the USO Finalists at a great disadvantage. They cannot play a clay warm up.
There was one month to plan for this. Rome was already preponed by one week. Common sense dictates that Rome be adjusted so that ALL USO players had an opportunity to play.
Rome is effectively punishing the two NYC finalists.
This never would have happened with a proper players union.
Luckily, Thiem lost in R1 in "Cincy", so he had enough in the tank to finish the job at USO (and we saw how close he was to losing it because of that).
I think RG should cater to Thiem to make up for Rome by putting him on Djokovic's side of the draw so that he doesn't have to face Nadal any earlier than in the final
Please. Thiem loves to play every tournament. Fatigue had absolutely nothing to do with his uneven Finals performance, coming off a relatively easy straight set SF win over Medvede .
Thiem was well rested for the Final. That subpar performance was all mental.
He'll get his warm up in the first week of Paris. Many top players have skipped warm ups and gone straight to a Slam. He's already in top physical condition and battle tested.Thiemster is entitled to a clay warm up just like every other player.
Hmmm.. you're not him and didn't talk with him (did you?) and what makes you be so sure?Thiem was well rested for the Final. That subpar performance was all mental.
Hmmm.. you're not him and didn't talk with him (did you?) and what makes you be so sure?
The smart players use the shutdown as an opportunity to improve fitness. More than capable of playing four tournaments in a row...
Two days to rest after the NYC Semi Final win.
Thiem was pain free after the Semi Final straight set win over Medvedev:
"I slid to the drop shot, and then my heel started to hurt because probably a wrong step or something,” Thiem said to John McEnroe after the match.“It was really hurting, but I changed shoes, a different insole, and then it got better again. So I’m pain-free now"
Considering the crazy year we had, they don't have a lot of options, fall is coming and they need to have a rest between Masters and Grand Slam. There was no fair way to schedule these tournaments.The ATP officials are putting the USO Finalists at a great disadvantage. They cannot play a clay warm up.
There was one month to plan for this. Rome was already preponed by one week. Common sense dictates that Rome be adjusted so that ALL USO players had an opportunity to play.
Rome is effectively punishing the two NYC finalists.
This never would have happened with a proper players union.
When was the last we had a pandemic to deal with? Be happy they are playing any tournaments at all.With no rest between them and two being Majors?
Pray tell, when was the last time that that happened?
When was the last we had a pandemic to deal with? Be happy they are playing any tournaments at all.
Players have to choose what tournaments it is best for them to play, so they do not get worn out physically. Despite what Thiem says, I do think he was injured at the end of his semi and finals match, so it seems to me a wise decision to skip Rome. I think it would be very difficult for any player to play four tournaments in a row.I was addressing the claim that it is OK to play 4 tournaments in a row form a physical perspective, not what you here wrote.
Entitled???Thiemster is entitled to a clay warm up just like every other player.
Players have to choose what tournaments it is best for them to play, so they do not get worn out physically. Despite what Thiem says, I do think he was injured at the end of his semi and finals match, so it seems to me a wise decision to skip Rome. I think it would be very difficult for any player to play four tournaments in a row.
True, winning a slam was the most important thing in his tennis life. He is already 27 and had he lost that USO final, I doubt he would have had a chance to win this year's FO or any other slam, for that matter.Yes, I too think that it was extremely beneficial to him that he was eliminated early in Cincy, considering his physical game.
Same for his decision to not play Rome in the light of the incoming RG.
They wouldn’t push it for any player on tour, not even Federer.
Entitled???
Shows that without Rafa and Federer the tournament wouldn’t be making enough money.Madrid was canceled on August 4.
Rafa was not planning on playing Rome as Rome was scheduled close to the start of RG.
It is quite suspicious that Rome was then moved one week earlier to accommodate Rafa.
Madrid Open tennis canceled because of virus spike in Spain
The Madrid Open in September has been canceled because of a new spike in coronavirus cases in Spain.apnews.com
I was just surprised you used the word "entitled". I thought you skewed relatively conservative, and most conservative minded people, at least that I know, aren't fans of that word.Every player in the USO draw should be afforded the opportunity to play Rome.
We should not have a situation where the USO Finalists are prevented from playing Rome. PCB got knocked out on Thursday but still had time to play Rome on Tuesday.
Thiem and Zverev played on Sunday and realistically could not play Rome on Tuesday.
Shows that without Rafa and Federer the tournament wouldn’t be making enough money.
... not to mention he literaly pushed the rusty peak injured abominabull to the limit, thanks to this comfortable rest.PCB played the Semi Final in NYC on Friday and is already playing Rome 4 days later.
Maybe if you could pay these tournaments then? They aren’t running by themselves and they need viewers. You cannot decide which tournaments to be played when. It’s all about money and many tournaments now about to go bankrupt. Need the big names.Yes, every player at the USO, including Finalists, should have the opportunity to play Rome and not be put at a disadvantage by being denied a clay warm up leading up to RG. All this during a pandemic shutdown with very few playing opportunities available.
The ATP scheduling has failed the players here.
Our favorite Joker's proposed union will likely address these type of injustices where tournament profits are put ahead of player's interests.
Joker was very clear that the scheduling should allow returning NYC players to play Rome. That was one of the conditions that had to be met before players agreed to play USO.
Earlier this month Djokovic in an interview with Zurnal, said that he might play in the US Open. But he wants to play in Madrid and Rome as well. Currently, there is a compulsory 14-day quarantine for the players coming from the US to Europe. So with that rule, it makes it impossible for Djokovic to play in Madrid and Rome.
Maybe if you could pay these tournaments then? They aren’t running by themselves and they need viewers. You cannot decide which tournaments to be played when. It’s all about money and many tournaments now about to go bankrupt. Need the big names.
Didn’t you hear what Rome director said? They hardly make any money on this, they go in minus this year.Rome was originally scheduled to begin next week. Then Madrid was canceled and Rome decided to start earlier.
Nobody has explained why Rome changed its schedule. Why is Rome suddenly so inflexible that they cannot start three days later to accommodate the USO Finalists? Rafa would still come. Along with Thiem and Zverev. There is a global pandemic and limited tournaments being played, so Rome organizers needs to cooperate and be flexible
on this matter.
We all know that if Rafa had come to NYC and won the USO, and wanted to play Rome, the Rome organizers would have adjusted their schedule accordingly.