mike danny
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Watching this, I definitely don't feel sorry for today's younger guys. They were incredibly fortunate to dodge the Big 3 when they were actually at their best. I feel sorry for the guys of back then LOL.
Rome Flashback : The day Novak Djokovic beat Peak Nadal on clay
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mike danny
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Martin J
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If a "veteran" Stan could step up and win several big tournaments by defeating Big 3, then these youngsters have no excuses at all. They are simply not good enough.
Although Federer was also pretty bad. His backhand was atrocious.
mike danny
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mike danny
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Hmmm...
Madrid 2009 SF
Chennai 2008 SF
Olympics 2012 SF
All of these are also in contention.
Agree. It was truly the worst Federer there, unable to make a second serve return to save his life.
junior74
Talk Tennis Guru
Well, an injured person who plays tennis is always unhealthy.
20 slams is incredible for an injured person
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Nadal was peak in 2011?
He was peak in 2008-2010. 2011 he was dropping off. Which coincided with Djokovic's peak. Remember that when Djokovic started peaking in 2011, Nadal had been No.1 and had been winning slams for six seasons beating Federer in finals.
He was peak in 2008-2010. 2011 he was dropping off. Which coincided with Djokovic's peak. Remember that when Djokovic started peaking in 2011, Nadal had been No.1 and had been winning slams for six seasons beating Federer in finals.
Hitman
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Djokovic 2011 was just what the game needed. It was incredible what he did that season.
Biotic
Hall of Fame
Peak Djokovic in 2013 got owned at Slams by peak Nadal in 2013.
It doesn't matter, as 2013 proves that one single point can make a world of difference. If Djokovic wins RG SF, 2013 Nadal is probably slamless. In the eyes of his fans, that would make him old and declined, not peak.
Poor Djokovic was destined to inflate his slam count in post 2010 weak era lol.
Maybe not, but he gave Nadal a tough fight in Hambourg and was the one who took the most games from him at Roland Garros 2008 (12 out of the 41 lost by the Spaniard). He even had a set point at 6-5 in the third set.
Djokovic has always been a nightmarish match-up for Nadal even on clay.
How many games Federer has took from Nadal in the Final ?
Even Soderling took less games in the FO 2010 Final than Djokovic against Peak 2008 Claydal
How do you know you exist?
That was super impressive stuff. Didn't know he had Sod and Wawrinka before Murray.
6august
Hall of Fame
LOL I'm serious. Decent tennis fans will know that during a peak year one player still has mediocre match/matches and during a mediocre year he still can have peak match/matches.
Fred fans told me that Pete played a great match vs Fred at Wimbledon to convince me that peak Fred would beat peak Pete there, though that's the worst year in Pete's career and in the previous round it took him 5 sets to beat some random guy which I can not remember his name )))
Meanwhile, my eyetest tells me that Fred in the semi of Wimby 15 was not worse than his peak years.
So, your criteria to define a peak form match???
LOL I'm serious. Decent tennis fans will know that during a peak year one player still has mediocre match/matches and during a mediocre year he still can have peak match/matches.
Fred fans told me that Pete played a great match vs Fred at Wimbledon to convince me that peak Fred would beat peak Pete there, though that's the worst year in Pete's career and in the previous round it took him 5 sets to beat some random guy which I can not remember his name )))
Meanwhile, my eyetest tells me that Fred in the semi of Wimby 15 was not worse than his peak years.
So, your criteria to define a peak form match???
In that case it just boils down to the slam count doesn't it? All else is subjective and meaningless.
Sorry_to_tell_you_mate
Professional
That was not peak Nadal on clay. Do you remember Nadal's 81 match streak on clay? That was peak Nadal on clay.
Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
How about this one? One of the greatest 3 setter I have ever watched.
Love this underrated thriller
Krish0608
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Federer was like Gandalf that day. “You shall not pass”
Beckerserve
Legend
IW 2011 was the key Rafa was owning Djokovic then his serve collapsed and he allowed Djokovic to win which of course gave Djokovic confidence for Miami.
2011 IW was a bad loss for Nadal as had he won that match while i think he may have gone out earlier in Miami i dont think he loses the clay court masters or USO final. W i think he had a problematic ankle so that was likely a loss anyway.
Beckerserve
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That was my fav ever celebration. Wagged that finger right at Djokovic and his parents and team. Absolutely brilliant and legacy wise in terms of the Federer v Djokovic rivalry pivotal as really hard to argue Djokovic is better than Federer when at his very best peak level on a 40 match winning run aged 23/24 he lost to past prime 30 year old Federer on his worse surface. Absolutely massive match that.
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