ChaelAZ
G.O.A.T.
Kat posted this today. Interesting.
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I believe her side of the story given what I saw.
Kat posted this today. Interesting.
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Tennis parents really are the absolute worst...
On the WTA/ATP level I can‘t immediately recall any crazy moms but crazy dads is another story: pierce, bernie, dokic, lucic come to mind.
Hmm. Rafa hater, you’re extrapolating from your own feelings to mine! Thanks for posting your self-description!Your ability to overlook the obvious no longer impresses me after so long, domestic abuse??? Oracine and the other moms get abused long before their daughters (failed gatekeepers). Part of the cycle...
Much like @octobrina10 's hate towards Sasha, the snake will eventually show its head to others.
Fed devotees are hating Zverev since he started to beat the beloved one.
I like Thiem since Sunday.Nah, we like him after today
I like Thiem since Sunday.
I wonder what's wrong with liking Thiem.Do two wrongs make a right? Should tip over your king at this point and save face.
I wonder what's wrong with liking Thiem.
I wonder what's wrong with liking Thiem.
The time is right.Perhaps its the timing
Just looked at them, wow.....Thought it was odd and perhaps irresponsible of the author to included link to the “explainer” video.
The comment section of it was downright disturbing.
Your ability to overlook the obvious no longer impresses me after so long, domestic abuse??? Oracine and the other moms get abused long before their daughters (failed gatekeepers). Part of the cycle...
Much like @octobrina10 's hate towards Sasha, the snake will eventually show its head to others.
Sore loser. It's painfully obvious. It's really interesting to me that people can see it any other way. People have a confirmation bias that they see what they want to believe, a lot of which is racially motivated.
Losing the match, body language, throwing racquet immediately after losing, family history, and her eventual action to go after another tennis player. All of these things add up to an obvious conclusion. People that know Sebov personally know it's completely asinine for her to be slinging racial slurs during a match. Such a low excuse for crap behavior and paper thin character.
Just another Jussie Smollett. Media is really enjoying this, and encourages this through sensationalism. Won't be the last time this happens unless someone in a position of authority comes forward and does the right thing.
Sore loser. It's painfully obvious. It's really interesting to me that people can see it any other way. People have a confirmation bias that they see what they want to believe, a lot of which is racially motivated.
Losing the match, body language, throwing racquet immediately after losing, family history, and her eventual action to go after another tennis player. All of these things add up to an obvious conclusion. People that know Sebov personally know it's completely asinine for her to be slinging racial slurs during a match. Such a low excuse for crap behavior and paper thin character.
Just another Jussie Smollett. Media is really enjoying this, and encourages this through sensationalism. Won't be the last time this happens unless someone in a position of authority comes forward and does the right thing.
Dansan
Very good post! Concise and to the point. The thrown racquet at the end of the match was an obvious act the fuse was going to go off. Anything that happened after that thrown racquet was just the beginning of the explosion by a sore looser. Daddy has the same temperament, and will defend his daughter whether she is right or in this case in the wrong. Parks obviously learned her behavior from her dad.
Shalom
Tennis parents really are the absolute worst. It should be pretty easy to verify the information about the dad. If he attended Sebov's other matches and was meddling there too, including physical contact, that means the ITF will have to act after this video. That's ridiculous and borderline stalker-y.
It is 'painfully obvious' that she is a sore loser, but your comparison with Jussie Smollet makes you 'painfully obvious' as well.
Tennis parents are the worst due to the individualistic nature of the sport. It becomes very, very personal unlike in team sports. Through their progeny, they feel success, validation, whatever, and at the same time, they want their child to win and be happy and have success. It’s just gets very messy when involving human emotions, human connections to children, sporting competitions, etc.
Plus it takes sociopaths to stick a racket into the hands of a 3 year-old then drill them like in the army for the next 15 years...Tennis parents are the worst due to the individualistic nature of the sport. It becomes very, very personal unlike in team sports. Through their progeny, they feel success, validation, whatever, and at the same time, they want their child to win and be happy and have success. It’s just gets very messy when involving human emotions, human connections to children, sporting competitions, etc.
Plus it takes sociopaths to stick a racket into the hands of a 3 year-old then drill them like in the army for the next 15 years...
Sore loser. It's painfully obvious. It's really interesting to me that people can see it any other way. People have a confirmation bias that they see what they want to believe, a lot of which is racially motivated.
Losing the match, body language, throwing racquet immediately after losing, family history, and her eventual action to go after another tennis player. All of these things add up to an obvious conclusion. People that know Sebov personally know it's completely asinine for her to be slinging racial slurs during a match. Such a low excuse for crap behavior and paper thin character.
Just another Jussie Smollett. Media is really enjoying this, and encourages this through sensationalism. Won't be the last time this happens unless someone in a position of authority comes forward and does the right thing.
I agree, and that's the big problem for tennis, that big talents who start at age 9 or 10 have very little chance.True, but that’s really the only way and player will ever be good enough to compete professionally and once people begin, there’s no turning back once people tske the Sunk Cost approach.
The thing is that it’s always easy to judge from afar, but there are so many, SO MANY variables that go into parent/children relationships, and in tennis (or in other individualistic pursuits like chess or spelling bees, etc., I’ve seen) relationships, the connections turnout or maybe even begin narcissistically, but there are parts of it that come from well-intentioned places but the whole thing becomes so horribly mixed up. These parents KNOW what they’re doing, but they’re so deeply entangled in a lifetime of support/chastisement/support/chastisement, love, recrimination, loathing, joy, narcissism, etc., that it’s the way the relationship will always be after a certain point.
And if the child is an only child then oh boy....it’s just multiplied and intensified.
I agree, and that's the big problem for tennis, that big talents who start at age 9 or 10 have very little chance.
Also, for every success story of a tortured 3 year-old, there are 500 failures.
It's just not a good environment, junior tennis. Barring some exceptions of course when the child is happy regardless of pro success...
Another problem is the current generation of parents who are Xers and millennials i.e. nitwits. Especially millennials I've noticed haven't a CLUE how to bring up kids. They are themselves still kids, an immature generation. Plus, millennials being so selfish makes them inappropriate to raise kids (and yet they are the only ones fertile around pretty much)... What's the world coming to...Indeed.
But for many parents, the miracle of birth itself and the human characteristic of egoism WANTS that child, BELIEVES that child to be special. They want good things for him/her, and maybe want good things for themselves. When looked at logically, the odds are HIGHLY, HIGHLY against a child ever becoming a chess prodigy, violin virtuoso, professional athlete, attending Harvard/Yale/Princeton/MIT/Stanford/etc., but parents don’t look at things logically.
Then they get caught up in the life they’ve created for maybe even good reasons, but that dynamic between child and parent is set and NOTHING changes that. Nothing CAN change it.
The parents often know this and it makes them act even worse. They regret it afterwards, feel guilty, but they can’t help it anymore. They’re fighting against the odds knowing that logically it’s goong to be impossible to achieve the dreams they had when their child was three years old. They have a relationship with their child that’s already broken and the ONLY thing that will “justify” what has “happened” is that the child DOES become the pro athlete, chess champion, etc.