RS92
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hahaha that would have been a sight to see :lol:
Perhaps Gulbis against Kyrgios next?
Fognini vs kyrgios should be awesome :twisted:
Should Kyrgios have been de-faulted
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Fognini vs kyrgios should be awesome :twisted:
HellsBells
Rookie
Big deal over nothing.
I find this guy's comments infinitely more offensive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9gjpd25ZRA
I find this guy's comments infinitely more offensive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9gjpd25ZRA
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Actually, I like Nick and support him..sure thing
you only completely excuse NK's behavior because he defeated Nadal at Wimbledon.
if Nadal had anything near the countenance you would pull a hissyfit constantly!
I don't dislike Nadal either, so this isn't anything to do with him.
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Nathaniel_Near
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gut wax
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klementine
Hall of Fame
Are you kidding me?! DQ'd!? Seriously? Are you f@#!'ng kidding me?
gregor.b
Professional
Agreed. As long as they are consistent for EVERY PLAYER every time. SO the third time you take more than 25? seconds, you lose the match. Every time. Consistency is all everyone is after.
cigrmaster
Semi-Pro
Obviously the OP has never been to an Ille Nastaase match, now that guy was could swear. lol
I think tennis will survive Nick as it will survive Rafa taking a few extra seconds after a 30 ball ralley. Let em play and let em take time to breath so we get the best these athletes have to offer.
I think tennis will survive Nick as it will survive Rafa taking a few extra seconds after a 30 ball ralley. Let em play and let em take time to breath so we get the best these athletes have to offer.
At set point in the second set tiebreaker Murray was leading 6-5 in the tiebreaker.
Kyrgios slammed his frame to the ground breaking it and then replaced it.
He had already received a code of conduct violation for a verbal obscenity so it was AUTOMATIC that a penalty point should be given,so the set was Murrays right there!
The Umpire decided not to apply the rules that are in black and white.
Murray gave the Umpire a dirty look.
This could have cost Murray the set.
If the controlling body don't do something about this------ the game is going to lose its integrity.
Kyrgios slammed his frame to the ground breaking it and then replaced it.
He had already received a code of conduct violation for a verbal obscenity so it was AUTOMATIC that a penalty point should be given,so the set was Murrays right there!
The Umpire decided not to apply the rules that are in black and white.
Murray gave the Umpire a dirty look.
This could have cost Murray the set.
If the controlling body don't do something about this------ the game is going to lose its integrity.
woodrow1029
Hall of Fame
It's not a "rule". There are no "automatic" code violations in the rules. It's not black and white.
The standard is that if the racket is thrown dangerously or recklessly, or hits or comes close to hit someone, then a code violation should definitely be given. Also if the racket is "deformed", then a code is usually given.
In this case, he didn't throw it down too hard, and it may have cracked, but the umpire won't make his decision based only on the player changing the racket. He makes his decision based on the severity of the throw, and if it was not visibly deformed, then 99/100 times that is not going to be coded.
The umpire has a lot of discretion with racket/ball abuse, and he should, because that was not something that warranted a point penalty, especially on set point.
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I saw him throw the frame quite hard in an aggressive fashion.
As I understand it if you break the frame doing this its an automatic loss of one point.
Remembering he had already been warned for a audible obscenity.
I think it was Leyton Hewitt who was commentating at the time said he got away with one as it should be a automatic penalty.
Had Murray asked for the Ref to come out ----- Kyrgios I believe would have lost the set right there.
As I understand it if you break the frame doing this its an automatic loss of one point.
Remembering he had already been warned for a audible obscenity.
I think it was Leyton Hewitt who was commentating at the time said he got away with one as it should be a automatic penalty.
Had Murray asked for the Ref to come out ----- Kyrgios I believe would have lost the set right there.
newpball
Legend
Yes Nick is funny that way, he throws the racket but perhaps just within the margins.
The Art of Racket Smashing - From Anger to Coolness
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jmc3367
Rookie
Agree 100% NASCAR has learned that lesson the hard way.
woodrow1029
Hall of Fame
First point you made: Was not that hard or aggressive. Did not go far from him, did not enganger anyone, did not deform
Second point: There is not an automatic loss of point, as it is the umpire's judgement, discretion.
Third: Yes, he had a warning earlier, but that is irrelevant.
Fourth: I think it was Robbie Koenig, not Lleyton Hewitt.
Finally: The referee can't make that call. If Murray had asked for the supervisor/referee to come out, the referee would have said it's not automatic, and it's a judgement call by the umpire, so he can't change it.
I saw Kyrgios throw his frame hard and it de-formed enough for him to have to change it.
If you throw your racquet and it breaks---- pretty sure that is a automatic penalty. Read this.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news...es-another-broken-racquet-121117860--ten.html
If you throw your racquet and it breaks---- pretty sure that is a automatic penalty. Read this.
https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news...es-another-broken-racquet-121117860--ten.html
Nadal>>>>>Federer
Professional
Hmmm reminds me of ******* a little
woodrow1029
Hall of Fame
I don't mind you having an opinion on whether you think it warrants a code violation or not; however, you are wrong on the rule. It is not automatic. The racket was not visibly deformed. It may have cracked, but as an experienced tennis umpire, I am telling you, that would not have warranted a code violation, especially a point penalty, especially on set point.
batz
G.O.A.T.
Mate - is now a good time to point out that you are arguing with someone who has umpired at Grand Slam events?
mental midget
Hall of Fame
when was it not? frustration is a part of sport and i'm pretty sure people have been throwing rackets and cursing since bill tilden and before. i also don't think the occasional vulgar outburst necessarily leads children towards a life of dissolute behavior and bankrupt morality.
i think the current system is fine, warnings and the occasional fine set the parameters, but to consider defaulting a player unless their behavior turns particularly outrageous or violent is absurd.
edit: btw i didn't see the match but it sounds as though he should have lost a point according to the rules. they should be enforced. my point is simply that such behavior is an occasional inevitability, and to some degree, hey, it adds drama and that's a good thing overall.
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