So now we're seeing manufactures clone each other

[HoVa]

sound familiar?

Head Microgel Prestige Midplus
Babolat Pure Storm Ltd
Dunlop Aerogel 200
Wilson Kblade Tour
Technifibre TFight 320

all have around ~12ozs static weight, 18x20 stringbed, 325ish swingweight, ~8pts headlight, ~20mm beam width..


I think that the Head Pro Tour started all of this nonesense and look at whats happening!

the madness...

 

[Automatix]

Babolat PS Ltd. has a really low swingweight... you are really stretching your theory.

 

[HoVa]

also adding to the list:

ProKennex Heritage Type C Redondo

 

[Automatix]

You're really trying to make this theory work but it won't...

These racquet are not identical! All racquet specs including composition make racquets unique! 100% Graphite, Graphite/Kevlar, Graphite/Fiberglass are important when it comes to the racquets feel.

The stiffness varies from 56 to 64!!! That is a difference!

Balance varies from 6 HL to 10 HL... 4 HL is almost the same for you?

Re-check the racquets you mentioned...

Also all factors make the racquets mentioned above play differently!

 

[Gee]

Dunlop AG200 has a much higher sw than Head MGMP and Tecnifibre TFight 320.

 

[Automatix]

Dunlop AG200 has a much higher sw than Head MGMP and Tecnifibre TFight 320.

That's what I'm saying! The racquets mentioned above have sometimes really big difference in specs.

 

[Gee]

So I agree with you the statement of the OP is nonsense.

 

[Alafter]

It's too broad, try to narrow it down.

But, I'd say there's only 2 imitations as far as i remember.

1. Head extreme pro = yellow pure drive.

2. Wilson Nblade = Wilson's interpretation of Radicals.

 

[pow]

also adding to the list:

ProKennex Heritage Type C Redondo

The specs of this are close to one of the Prestige maybe but those other racquets are way off.

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

sound familiar?

Head Microgel Prestige Midplus
Babolat Pure Storm Ltd
Dunlop Aerogel 200
Wilson Kblade Tour
Technifibre TFight 320

all have around ~12ozs static weight, 18x20 stringbed, 325ish swingweight, ~8pts headlight, ~20mm beam width..


I think that the Head Pro Tour started all of this nonesense and look at whats happening!

the madness...

though I agree with you on general terms I disagree that it is nonsense. why is it nonsense? because it works?

Yes the Pro Tour started all this so what? Two pros designed this concept, they knew what they were doing and the formula was a success till this day. It was the foundation for all that followed. The MP's 95-98 with 18X20 thin beam frames happen to be the most popular and widely used on both ATP and WTA tours today.

for the rest: "really big difference in specs" is all relative


For example If you look at the MP 98's with 18X20 thin beam frames from Caymen Heat and Topspin , Major, Tecnifibre you would notice the similarity of the MOLD . They are clones, sure they differ in flex and layup, material but the OP was talking in general terms. Of course two frames are not going to be %100 identical, just by looking at the prestige MP line and you will know that they are different, but they all have similar general characteristics.

basically another poster from another thread put it nicely, they are Pro Tour wannabes rather than clones

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showpost.php?p=2417359&postcount=19

well yes in a way from Dunlop Rev 200G, MW200G, HM 200G, Mfil 200G, AG200G, Head iprestige MP, LM prestige MP, FXP prestige MP, MG prestige MP, Wislon Nblade and Kblade, Pro Kennex type C , Redondo MP, Major bullet, Tfight 325/335, topspin, Caymon etc.................why not babolat?

 

[uabucks]

head shape, flex and feel are very different with all of these rackets--
also 93-98 sq inch heads, and frames
19-21 mm.
They are players' frames--so similar only in that respect

 

[rockbox]

It's too broad, try to narrow it down.

But, I'd say there's only 2 imitations as far as i remember.

1. Head extreme pro = yellow pure drive.

2. Wilson Nblade = Wilson's interpretation of Radicals.

and the radical was a knockoff of the POG.

 

[bluetrain4]

Prince Speedport Black is clearly Prince's attempt at the Pure Drive.

I played a tournament two weekends ago and was surprised by the number of good players using Speedport Blacks.

Manufacturers have "cloned" each other for years, basically forever.

 

[pmerk34]

Prince Speedport Black is clearly Prince's attempt at the Pure Drive.

I played a tournament two weekends ago and was surprised by the number of good players using Speedport Blacks.

Manufacturers have "cloned" each other for years, basically forever.

I thnikthe Bryan brothers use the Speedport Black as well

 

[pmerk34]

Prince Speedport Black is clearly Prince's attempt at the Pure Drive.

I played a tournament two weekends ago and was surprised by the number of good players using Speedport Blacks.

Manufacturers have "cloned" each other for years, basically forever.

I think the Bryan brothers use the Speedport Black as well

 

[Pro_Tour_630]

Wilson yellow Surge was wilson first attempt at the PD

The question is what inspired Thomas Muster and Emilio Sanchez to come up with the Pro Tour? The mids from HEAD were very successful like the edge, the subsequent frames that followed it were the Prestige mids. Only they also had an OS HEAD which was called the the director. I think and IMO when they designed the Pro Tour they wanted something like the Head Edge, Professional etc... but with more room to hit since they were clay court specialists