Noleberic123
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My mother especially is knowledgable. I reckon she could name every slam Djokovic has won in order. But I don't have that same confidence in my dad sadly
So what's the real reason why the crowd never cheers for Djokovic?
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No, he did, he was mentioning the H2H apparently.
So she basically told him that 17 > 14.
Chicharito
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It is nothing to do with beating Federer and Nadal, no grudge from a crowd. The majority of people who attend tennis matches are not diehard fans or anything like a lot of the extremists here. 90% of the crowds anyway. A lot of them don't even know that much about tennis or who has won what, other than the rough amount of slams.
The reality is Djokovic doesn't have the charisma in normal life or on the court.
Also he doesn't help himself, that huff he threw when the o2 was cheering Nishikori just got them even more behind Kei.
He just doesn't have that likability factor, unlike Federer or Nadal. Nishikori has it actually, in the sense crowds quite like him. He was popular at the WTF. They had never heard of him before but they liked him. (He of course isn't loved as his profile is still very low outside Asia)
Not being likable isn't a fault, you don't necessarily do anything wrong to be like that. It's just natural.
Crowds generally root for underdogs.
The reality is Djokovic doesn't have the charisma in normal life or on the court.
Also he doesn't help himself, that huff he threw when the o2 was cheering Nishikori just got them even more behind Kei.
He just doesn't have that likability factor, unlike Federer or Nadal. Nishikori has it actually, in the sense crowds quite like him. He was popular at the WTF. They had never heard of him before but they liked him. (He of course isn't loved as his profile is still very low outside Asia)
Not being likable isn't a fault, you don't necessarily do anything wrong to be like that. It's just natural.
Crowds generally root for underdogs.
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Noleberic123
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Hmm smart family you got there. Hahah
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I bet the kid in her class posts on here, probably that 6-1 6-3 6-0 dude from ages back.
He'd have been about 12 at the time he was posting, sounds about right.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
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Mine would need to concentrate for a moment only to name the 4 Slams.
My ex does know many details, unfortunately we were quizzing each other during those a bit dark 2012-14 times.
Noleberic123
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Haha probably. But I doubt there is anyone here under the age of 15-16
Noleberic123
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I wouldn't call 2012 and 2014 as dark as 2013Mine would need to concentrate for a moment only to name the 4 Slams.
My ex does know many details, unfortunately we were quizzing each other during those a bit dark 2012-14 times.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
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Everything else compared to 2011 and 2015 is dark.
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I can think of 2-3 folks off-hand who would seriously have to be.
Noleberic123
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Why? 2012-2014 he won 3 slams. 3 okay seasons.
Noleberic123
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So can I. But I think they are just super delusional adults
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
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Yes. But in 2011 alone he won 3 Slams. Same in 2015. And he had no Slam final issues in these two.
Noleberic123
G.O.A.T.
That is true. If you think about it we haven't had to worry about him in slam finals since Wimbledon 2014
NBP
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thread can be ended here. You're 100% on the money. Fed and Nadal have barely anything to do with his popularity, even more so today. Djokovic has very little charisma. His outburts are seen as idiotic. And this isn't me saying this, it's a majority of the tennis world! Does it mean he hasn't won 3 of the 4 slams this year? No! Why do his fans even care if he's popular? Does it impact your life? Carry on supporting him while most others don't. It really isn't your problem...
Crionics
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Do we really need another topic on why Djokovic is not liked ***sigh***
Short answer: People don't root for Djokovic because he doesn't come across as likable and charismatic, it is as simple as that.
An interesting anecdote: I watched with my girlfriend a Djokovic match at the US open on TV. Just to clarify, she doesn't know much about tennis, she heard vaguely about Federer but never heard of Nadal before. So, she's really a neutral observer. And you know what she said about Djokovic? That he looked really agressive (and she was not talking about his game, but his on-court behavior and facial expression). That is the impression he made on her. Not exactly a great impression I would say, huh?
People don't like Djokovic, because he makes a bad first impression on them. And the first impression always remains.
Personally, I really started disliking Djokovic after that AO 13 match against Wawrinka when he ripped off his shirt after a long match and started acting like a gorilla on court with the chest thumping. I never liked his face or rather his facial expression before, but I think at that particular point of time I really started disliking him. To me he always came across as an arrogant jerk. Add to this his smashing of rackets when he's losing a game never mind the fact that he's a up a set and a break in the second set Picking fights with the crowds and not understanding that crowds like to see tense matches and don't pay to see boring routine wins like 6-1 6-2 (think last year WTF against Nishikori).
There are two myths regarding Djokovic's lack of popularity that need to be debunked:
1) He is disliked because he's serbian. Complete nonsense, Ivanovic is also serbian and quite liked in general. Personally, I like to root for Ivanovic and also Cilic (from Croatia but close to Serbia), so it has nothing to do with nationality.
2) He is disliked because he crashed Fedal's party. People on this board need to realize that the Federer and Nadal nutjobs obsessed about records only represent a tiny fraction of the tennis fans overall. Sorry, but most people in tennis stadiums are casual fans and tend to root for players that are charismatic and that bring them some sense of excitement. By the way, if you believe in this type of theory , then someone like Nadal should be hated in Switzerland considering how many times he has prevented Federer from winning big titles: this is clearly not the case, I know plenty of people who root for Nadal in Switzerland and the crowd was rooting heavily for Nadal last monday in Basel (I was there in the stadium).
Short answer: People don't root for Djokovic because he doesn't come across as likable and charismatic, it is as simple as that.
An interesting anecdote: I watched with my girlfriend a Djokovic match at the US open on TV. Just to clarify, she doesn't know much about tennis, she heard vaguely about Federer but never heard of Nadal before. So, she's really a neutral observer. And you know what she said about Djokovic? That he looked really agressive (and she was not talking about his game, but his on-court behavior and facial expression). That is the impression he made on her. Not exactly a great impression I would say, huh?
People don't like Djokovic, because he makes a bad first impression on them. And the first impression always remains.
Personally, I really started disliking Djokovic after that AO 13 match against Wawrinka when he ripped off his shirt after a long match and started acting like a gorilla on court with the chest thumping. I never liked his face or rather his facial expression before, but I think at that particular point of time I really started disliking him. To me he always came across as an arrogant jerk. Add to this his smashing of rackets when he's losing a game never mind the fact that he's a up a set and a break in the second set
Picking fights with the crowds and not understanding that crowds like to see tense matches and don't pay to see boring routine wins like 6-1 6-2 (think last year WTF against Nishikori).There are two myths regarding Djokovic's lack of popularity that need to be debunked:
1) He is disliked because he's serbian. Complete nonsense, Ivanovic is also serbian and quite liked in general. Personally, I like to root for Ivanovic and also Cilic (from Croatia but close to Serbia), so it has nothing to do with nationality.
2) He is disliked because he crashed Fedal's party. People on this board need to realize that the Federer and Nadal nutjobs obsessed about records only represent a tiny fraction of the tennis fans overall. Sorry, but most people in tennis stadiums are casual fans and tend to root for players that are charismatic and that bring them some sense of excitement. By the way, if you believe in this type of theory , then someone like Nadal should be hated in Switzerland considering how many times he has prevented Federer from winning big titles: this is clearly not the case, I know plenty of people who root for Nadal in Switzerland and the crowd was rooting heavily for Nadal last monday in Basel (I was there in the stadium).
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My Mum dislikes Novak, she says he's angry and aggressive too.Do we really need another topic on why Djokovic is not liked ***sigh***
Short answer: People don't root for Djokovic because he doesn't come across as likable and charismatic, it is as simple as that.
An interesting anecdote: I watched with my girlfriend a Djokovic match at the US open on TV. Just to clarify, she doesn't know much about tennis, she heard vaguely about Federer but never heard of Nadal before. So, she's really a neutral observer. And you know what she said about Djokovic? That he looked really agressive (and she was not talking about his game, but his on-court behavior and facial expression). That is the impression he made on her. Not exactly a great impression I would say, huh?
People don't like Djokovic, because he makes a bad first impression on them. And the first impression always remains.
Personally, I really started disliking Djokovic after that AO 13 match against Wawrinka when he ripped off his shirt after a long match and started acting like a gorilla on court with the chest thumping. I never liked his face or rather his facial expression before, but I think at that particular point of time I really started disliking him. To me he always came across as an arrogant jerk. Add to this his smashing of rackets when he's losing a game never mind the fact that he's a up a set and a break in the second set
There are two myths regarding Djokovic's lack of popularity that need to be debunked:
1) He is disliked because he's serbian. Complete nonsense, Ivanovic is also serbian and quite liked in general. Personally, I like to root for Ivanovic and also Cilic (from Croatia but close to Serbia), so it has nothing to do with nationality.
2) He is disliked because he crashed Fedal's party. People on this board need to realize that the Federer and Nadal nutjobs obsessed about records only represent a tiny fraction of the tennis fans overall. Sorry, but most people in tennis stadiums are casual fans and tend to root for players that are charismatic and that bring them some sense of excitement. By the way, if you believe in this type of theory , then someone like Nadal should be hated in Switzerland considering how many times he has prevented Federer from winning big titles: this is clearly not the case, I know plenty of people who root for Nadal in Switzerland and the crowd was rooting heavily for Nadal last monday in Basel (I was there in the stadium).
I don't think he's that bad in those respects, you have to remember that many of the players are like this.
My Dad likes him though, says he's a warrior.
Noleberic123
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Your dad and your girlfriend are very intelligent people. One day your mum will see the truth as well LOL
maruzo
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I agree. Novak is the favorite going into any tournament against Nadal. I don't favor Nadal making a come back and winning RG next year. Of course if he reverse tide and play a spectacular first half of 2016, then he will carry all that momentum into RG and get the odd-on fav again. Very unlikely, though.
I think we need to prepare ourselves for a more mellow and a top 10 Rafa for the coming years. He will continue to win for sure, but i doubt his chances at getting back to top form and winning GS titles.
TennisHound
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People forget that these guys are simpletons. All they know is "I pick up the racquet. I hit the ball and they pay me money." Why do we expect any more out of them?
Slice'n'dice
Hall of Fame
Not sure that's quite fair, seem more intelligent than the average sports people in general. Lots of them speak a lot of languages, that's certainly a sign of some intelligence. Education isn't always intelligence, just because they leave school early to focus on their sport doesn't mean they are all stupid.
Charlemagne
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Great guy, but boring uninspiring style of tennis. Boring outfits, boring haircut-- sounds superficial, but you know how ppl are these days...
TennisHound
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I exaggerated a little, but all they know is - win the tournament.
MichaelNadal
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The Fedal match yesterday should answer the OP's question. #realtennis
BreakPoint
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The answer to your question is in your own sentence. The fact is, Djokovic does not play thrilling tennis. Unless he's playing against someone I want to see, I rarely go out of my way to watch a Djokovic match. His matches are generally pretty boring. You can almost hear the yawning and snoring in the crowd during his matches. LOLTo me, I don't understand this. Djokovic is one of the all-time greats of the game and plays thrilling tennis.
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My Dad likes Novak more than me. When the AO was on this year, he was like "you going to watch Novak?" and I was like "not really".
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I don't think he minds Murray either.
He doesn't like Nadal or Federer though. Plus he's a big Sampras fan. Still thinks he's the best of all time.
He doesn't like Nadal or Federer though. Plus he's a big Sampras fan. Still thinks he's the best of all time.
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Are we talking about the same match dude?
If you mean Basel yesterday, go and watch it again.
That was one of the best 3-set matches of the year, helped of course by who was playing.
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Novak is actually really good live.
I wouldn't go out of my way to watch his early rounds on TV though.
But I love seeing Fed go God-mode on some dude in the 3R, could watch that all day.
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Yeah, agreed. He makes the sport an art form.
It was an early round for Novak too LOL. I think 2nd or 3rd round. I really only watch Novak when he comes up against the other Big 4 members, it's far more interesting then.
TennisLovaLova
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Crowds know a PED user when they see one
Noelan
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I don't know
, I'm talking about yesterday Basel Final, and it was dreadful match as I said , except some good tennis from Federer in that 1 set. So many mishits, shanks , silly errors, choking , epic clownery in 2 set from Federer and that gifted game in 3th set from Nadal was Some Djokovic fans keep calling other people crybabies and whiners. They need to take a look at the mirror. It doesn't matter how bad the final was. The fact that Ultron wasn't in it was a win for tennis.
No matter how bad FEDAL is, any match they play will always be bigger and more entertaining than anything with Djokovic in it. The news and anticipation before the match was way bigger than Beijing and Dubai this year.
Hate it all you want, doesn't change the fact that these guys are bigger and better! Oh, and crowd favorites to boots!
No matter how bad FEDAL is, any match they play will always be bigger and more entertaining than anything with Djokovic in it. The news and anticipation before the match was way bigger than Beijing and Dubai this year.
Hate it all you want, doesn't change the fact that these guys are bigger and better! Oh, and crowd favorites to boots!
kOaMaster
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Do we really need another topic on why Djokovic is not liked ***sigh***
Short answer: People don't root for Djokovic because he doesn't come across as likable and charismatic, it is as simple as that.
An interesting anecdote: I watched with my girlfriend a Djokovic match at the US open on TV. Just to clarify, she doesn't know much about tennis, she heard vaguely about Federer but never heard of Nadal before. So, she's really a neutral observer. And you know what she said about Djokovic? That he looked really agressive (and she was not talking about his game, but his on-court behavior and facial expression). That is the impression he made on her. Not exactly a great impression I would say, huh?
People don't like Djokovic, because he makes a bad first impression on them. And the first impression always remains.
Personally, I really started disliking Djokovic after that AO 13 match against Wawrinka when he ripped off his shirt after a long match and started acting like a gorilla on court with the chest thumping. I never liked his face or rather his facial expression before, but I think at that particular point of time I really started disliking him. To me he always came across as an arrogant jerk. Add to this his smashing of rackets when he's losing a game never mind the fact that he's a up a set and a break in the second set
There are two myths regarding Djokovic's lack of popularity that need to be debunked:
1) He is disliked because he's serbian. Complete nonsense, Ivanovic is also serbian and quite liked in general. Personally, I like to root for Ivanovic and also Cilic (from Croatia but close to Serbia), so it has nothing to do with nationality.
2) He is disliked because he crashed Fedal's party. People on this board need to realize that the Federer and Nadal nutjobs obsessed about records only represent a tiny fraction of the tennis fans overall. Sorry, but most people in tennis stadiums are casual fans and tend to root for players that are charismatic and that bring them some sense of excitement. By the way, if you believe in this type of theory , then someone like Nadal should be hated in Switzerland considering how many times he has prevented Federer from winning big titles: this is clearly not the case, I know plenty of people who root for Nadal in Switzerland and the crowd was rooting heavily for Nadal last monday in Basel (I was there in the stadium).
Those two posts sum it up pretty well. Nothing to add.
Noleberic123
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Even I have to agree with that
Noleberic123
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Hahahahahahha
MichaelNadal
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Noleberic123
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You know what the best 3 set match was this year?
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Noleberic123
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Indian wells final. LOLNo, which?
As long as you don't say the IW final...
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Sigh...
Noleberic123
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It has to be though. One the best quality matches overallSigh...
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