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JMDP= Juan Marcos DelPortojamumafa said:JMDP?
JMDP= Juan Marcos DelPortojamumafa said:JMDP?
BigServer1 said:He also yells and celebrates after his opponents mistakes. This is poor sportsmanship, plain and simple.
LOl you mean Juan MARTIN Del POTRO.Shabazza said:JMDP= Juan Marcos DelPorto
cuddles26 said:I dont like Nadal since he is ugly, arrogant, takes steroids, uses manipulative tactics to gain an edge, annoying, his game is ugly and boring, he is overrated and overhyped, and his fans suck. There you go.
His (McEnroe's) one, gross drawback was that at any provocation, real or imagined, he was apt to have a tantrum, behaviour he justified by claiming that he put himself off more than his opponents. What was astonishing was that, at Wimbledon anyway, none of them ever walked off court. Not that Borg would have reason to. 'I never acted like a jerk against him,' McEnroe would admit. 'I had too much respect.'-Sunday June 5, 2005-Observer Sport Monthly
zampano said:no it's not. he works a lot to provoke those errors.
it's just that when somebody becomes successful people want him badly to start losing.
FiveO said:I don't care for Rafa's on court schtick.
I don't care for Hewitt's nor Roddick's either.
All three are by design and a reflection of true character. The oft offered excuse that any one of their behaviors are an indication that they "want it more" adds insult upon insult to the competitors each faces across the net from match to match.
Time violations, fist pumping and shouting aloud the equivalent of "C'mon" in whatever one's native tongue may be on an opponent's UE, playing to and inciting crowds against an opponent are and will always be gamesmanship.
Gamesmanship is the use of dubious (although not technically illegal) methods to win a game.
While time violations are in violation of the written rules and while it has become "common practice" that they go largely unenforced, "The Code" makes it incumbant on every competitor to adhere to the rule even if officials fear to intervene.
Outwardly, overtly and excessively celebrating an UE of an opponent is not only disrespectful to the opponent and "the game" it is tactical "gamesmanship" made more reprehensible by the fact that all these competitors have "shelved" their "acts" against opponents they "respect".
What does that say about the character of "like minds" regarding their "other" opponents when those questionable behaviors are on full display?
I appreciate all their games, like I did Nastase, Connors and McEnroe, but the latter three engage in on-court?in the opponent's face behavior all too often. And it is what it is, gamesmanship, just without the point penalties, suspensions and fines of their predecessors.
Morrissey said:I don't believe in preemptive dissing of another player and their fans
Morrissey said:The snobby elitists (aka Federer fans)
Morrissey said:Don't you forget? Swiss people have no souls.
Fed fans either.
Really?Morrissey said:Oh yeah, when Fedfans rip Susan (Vamos Rafa), perhaps the most politically correct and objective person on this board that's too much. But then again why would I ever hold such a high standard for Fedfans.
Might this be one of the reasons?Shabazza said:yeah and she's done with Nadal's homepage, too!
Though a synergistic collaboration between official sites and fan sites makes sense, the proposition is more successful in theory than in practice. The prime example so far has been the case of the dueling Nadal websites, vamosrafael.com and rafaelnadal.com. Once the official Nadal site launched, the star player and his management team no longer cooperated with vamosrafael.com. The feuding caused a lawsuit and the ATP had to step in to maintain civility between the two parties. Around the U.S. Open the two sides decided to settle their differences and merge sites.
rfprse said:Really?
Might this be one of the reasons?
From an article from tennis.com; http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=46234
lol my bad - somehow I have his 2nd name as Marcos - maybe because it's a pretty common spanish name, more so than Martin.....and porto was a typoDuzza said:LOl you mean Juan MARTIN Del POTRO.
10 Things I Hate About You(Nadal)...
1. He wears shorts that aren't shorts nor pants
2. He used to be so much cooler, now he's all cocky
3. His muscles are too large
4. He has "vamos" and "rafa" embroidered on his shoes
5. He is a left hander
6. He is number 2 in the world and the biggest, if not only threat to Fed
7. He uses a Babolat
8. He takes too long to play tennis
9. He is a Spaniard
10. He grunts like he's having several babies
I'll let you off this timeShabazza said:lol my bad - somehow I have his 2nd name as Marcos - maybe because it's a pretty common spanish name, more so than Martin.....and porto was a typo
plarazza said:Remember he is still young. If i was out there I would be excited and pumped all the time. Personnal i love him i reckon he is great and it really shows how the player is feeling. Who knows what the hell Roger is thinking
TennezSport said:Therein lies the difference that you either love or hate about Rafa and Fed. One is the Big Cat, silent, fast and powerful. This was the style of Laver, Ashe, Borg and Pete; now Fed. The other is the Big Gorilla (not in looks so don't go there), in your face, pumping his chest and showing his power. This was the style of Nastase, Conners, McEnroe; now Nadal
This is what makes the two of them so controversial and exciting. Either you love their styles or you hate it.
TS
sureshs said:McEnroe was a cheat. Don't insult Nadal by comparing him to McEnroe. Most of today's players have far better sportsmanship and character than that guy.
Squall Leonheart said:McEnroe never cheated. True he disputed line calls and such, but he truly believed that the call was incorrect. I'm not saying nadal cheats either, but 'don't insult McEnroe by comparing him to Nadal.'
sureshs said:He cheated by trying to distract the player and engage the crowd. He would also try to get into their heads before a match. Read about what his opponents thought about his behavior and how he humiliated them.McEnroe never cheated. True he disputed line calls and such, but he truly believed that the call was incorrect. I'm not saying nadal cheats either, but 'don't insult McEnroe by comparing him to Nadal.'
Even on the senior tour, one player said recently if McEnroe pulled the same kind of stuff, he would walk out of the court.
Whether he really believed the call was good we will never know. We only know that he tried to make the most of it and throw his opponent out of rhythm.
Squall Leonheart said:Well, we'll never know if he did it to play mind games with the opponent either. His opponents can think whatever they want; some say Nadal wastes lots of time on purpose, but no one can say if it is intentional or not. Your argument can work both ways.
Watcher said:There's been an awful lot of Nadal hate on this board, especially after the match today which I can't spoil in this forum. Why? I mean, if you have a good reason, then I've got no problem with that, and I'd hope none of you would have a problem with me liking Nadal. But if it's "just because," that's kind of lame, isn't it?
Is it how he pumps himself up and celebrates after points? I can understand how that might not be so endearing. Although personally, that's one of the reasons I like him, that he gets so into the match. That's also one of the reasons I like Hewitt.
drakulie said:I also don't like seeing him pick his butt after every point.
sureshs said:But the time wasted can be quantified. Nadal has been warned a couple of times already about the time taken. Pity that JMac got away with his umpire and linesmen abuse, and holding up the game, for years. Those can also be penalized, but they were afraid of him and the money-power he had (attracting a crowd).
sureshs said:But the time wasted can be quantified. Nadal has been warned a couple of times already about the time taken. Pity that JMac got away with his umpire and linesmen abuse, and holding up the game, for years. Those can also be penalized, but they were afraid of him and the money-power he had (attracting a crowd).