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Apparently Suresh is a butt man ...
Apparently Suresh is a butt man ...
yea but you hav e no chance of going to the nationals with that kind of play . beating on same old boring guys doesnt' turn me on5 out of 7 days play club members. Other 2 days play league tennis.
Been to Nat'ls playing each other for 5 yrs. No one going anywhere but Coronaville this year. Have one with a sour lime and a smileyea but you hav e no chance of going to the nationals with that kind of play . beating on same old boring guys doesnt' turn me on
Been to Nat'ls playing each other for 5 yrs. No one going anywhere but Coronaville this year. Have one with a sour lime and a smile
That's awesome! We got a free room and breakfast.we will have Socal and Norcal championships this year instead. and division winner will meet in the final in LA. Sponsored by TW. with each player receiving prize money of $10,000(same as stimulus money) and gold medal.
That's awesome! We got a free room and breakfast.
Why is it always the elderly people we are all trying to protect who take silly risks?Seriously, if you told me that the other three people on the court in an outdoor tennis match were in fact Corona-positive, I would still play the match.
Sorry, I saw a different Chinese Restaurant story. A less scientific and more sensational one.This is the Chinese restaurant study being referred to https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/health/airflow-coronavirus-restaurants.html
Outdoors the risk is minimal. I drove into MD today to play...not doubles though.
Always say " Yours" to your partner. LOLYou stay in the alley and leave the rest of the court to me.
J
The "signal twerk", works every time.....@stringertom
1 butt wiggle of server = Serving out wide
2 butt wiggles of server = Serving at the T
3 butt wiggles of server = Body serve
1 butt wiggle of partner = Acknowledge server's butt wiggles
2 butt wiggles of partner = Will poach
3 butt wiggles of partner = Will not poach
(Above not recommended for men)
Aren't you over 50? You're the high risk age group for this thing.Don’t know any elderly people . . . .
You said "elderly."Aren't you over 50? You're the high risk age group for this thing.
Studies seem to disagree on that. People over 50 are requiring hospitalisation and dying at a much higher rate than younger people regardless of physical fitness or lack of underlying conditions.I wouldn't say a person is "high risk" based solely on age over 50.
also turn your back to your opponents, dont directly face each other, just common senseIt's not like 6ft is some magic number that will ward of a virus. It's a recommended barrier only. Why not 7 ft? Why not 10 ft? The reality in doubles is that if you do get that close it's for a VERY short period of time. I've got zero problems playing doubles now.
You can discuss strategy at 6 ft apart if you speak quietly, plan before you play. It's really a non-issue.
Soon none of us willDon’t know any elderly people . . . .
Aren't you over 50? You're the high risk age group for this thing.
Soon none of us will
I have lots of factors working for me. Like being female, strong immune system,
- Several studies have shown that more men are dying from COVID-19 than women.
- Experts say part of the reason is women tend to have stronger immune systems than men.
- They add that men also tend to engage in more risky behavior such as ignoring physical distancing, and they don’t take symptoms as seriously.
Darn straight. Social distancing is for p*****s!
Seriously, why aren't we trying to spread the thing in low virus load situations? In my part of the world, healthy people under 35 are essentially at zero risk of death. If we'd had them catch this and then isolate for a few weeks, we'd probably almost have herd immunity.
Instead, we're told that cowering in fear for the rest of our life is the only logical path. Nonsense.
What make you think people under 35 will agree to isolate? They were the ones protesting and flouting the rules from day 1.
We shouldn't assume they'd isolate. We old folks could just hide in our hovels and have food delivered until the waves of infection pass over.
In my community, I saw lots of teens out and about in groups after the schools were shut down. Hopefully, some of those kids were infected already and are now immune, and no longer community spreaders.
This is the Chinese restaurant study being referred to https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/health/airflow-coronavirus-restaurants.html
Outdoors the risk is minimal. I drove into MD today to play...not doubles though.
Seriously, why aren't we trying to spread the thing in low virus load situations? In my part of the world, healthy people under 35 are essentially at zero risk of death. If we'd had them catch this and then isolate for a few weeks, we'd probably have herd immunity by now.
130 million US young people all quarantined at once (not just social distanced but truly quarantined). 3% needing hospitalization (4 million people). Mortality rate based on Spanish data is about 0.2% of younger people with known disease die (260,000). If you even assume that for every counted case there are 10 unverified, that leaves 26,000 dead. And unknown numbers with sequelae such as autoimmune disease, stroke, chronic lung disease.
That's not terribly practical either. Not sure many parents are going to sign up their kids for that lottery.
It's a huge conundrum. The virus is too aggressive to ignore but not so aggressive that worldwide quarantine is mandatory. Finding that sweetspot to limit economic destruction but protect lives is something every nation is struggling with.
In my community, I saw lots of teens out and about in groups after the schools were shut down. Hopefully, some of those kids were infected already and are now immune, and no longer community spreaders.
- We don't get immunity from the common cold just because we've had a cold...and coronavirus is in the same family. So how can I conclude that people having CV are now immune?
- Recovered patients have been tested and a statistically significant # have very low levels of anti-bodies, implying weak or non-existent immunity.
So there are 2 problems: whether immunity exists at all and if so, for how long?
Seriously, why aren't we trying to spread the thing in low virus load situations? In my part of the world, healthy people under 35 are essentially at zero risk of death. If we'd had them catch this and then isolate for a few weeks, we'd probably have herd immunity by now.
- Would you volunteer? Would you volunteer your kids? Have you read accounts of recovered patients, whose symptoms definitely sounded non-flu like in severity and duration?
Then there's the long-term damage being reported [ie severely reduced lung capacity].
I don't want to catch this bug; I don't care how high my chances are of survival. it's nasty and formidable.
- Herd immunity requires about an 80% infection, given the R0 of CV. The US is currently at...0.4% so we need a 200x increase to achieve herd immunity. No country is even close. Spain is the leader among large population countries at 0.6%. As Roy Scheider said in *Jaws*: "We need a bigger boat."
Several studies have raised the possibility that the infection rate is much higher and that's conceivable although the studies I see touted [ie the Stanford one] were horribly run [sample completely non-random, for example].
- Would you volunteer? Would you volunteer your kids? Have you read accounts of recovered patients, whose symptoms definitely sounded non-flu like in severity and duration?
Then there's the long-term damage being reported [ie severely reduced lung capacity].
The common belief is that getting a cold virus and recovering does provide you (for some period of time) with immunity from that strain of virus. The problem is that there are multiple virus mutations in the cold virus families.
We only care about the current virus because of the risk of death or the necessity of expensive treatments involving ICUs. If the thing mutates into something that isn't killing people or requiring hospitalization, why should I care about it?
Give me the cite. I'm not buying this.
If people aren't dying or needing hospitalization, who cares about your hypothetical problems?
Where I live, the current risk is to people over the age of 80, mostly in nursing homes. In places like NYC, Pennsylvania, etc., much of the problem is due to health officials purposefully putting sick people into close contact with very high risk populations. What does that have to do with the rest of us?
You are scaring me.
Based on symptoms, I've been around multiple people who have been infected. Severity has varied, but none needed hospitalization. In the same family, some were coughing up blood and having asthma like symptoms while others just got a mild sore throat. The original spreader in the family never developed much of a cough, but first became suspicious when he noticed he couldn't taste his food, and realized it was due to lack of ability to smell. He was playing with the dog and realized he was almost instantly out of breath.
...You should care about mutations because of the potential for it to become more lethal or transmissible. Apparently, that happened in the Spanish Flu pandemic [I haven't researched it so this is heresay].
Side question: why don't you buy it? Is it because the data doesn't make logical sense or because it conflicts with your current belief system?
Back in January, people didn't care about CV because it was happening in a distant foreign country; any problems for us were hypothetical. Until they weren't.
The risk increases with age, all other things being equal, probably starting in the 30s. There's no magic line at 80. If you just quarantined those >= 80, who would care for them? Wouldn't that likely involve a cohort that were < 80?
There is a sub-form on Reddit dedicated to CV survivor stories; I haven't read it [no pun intended] yet.
Give me the cite. I'm not buying this.
If this were like the Spanish Flu, I'd be much more frightened.
I don't buy it because almost everything I've been told or read about in the media during this scare has turned out to be false.
We know a lot more about this now than we did in January. Almost all the predictions have been wrong.
I've been closely following my local county statistics. They don't at all match with what we were told would happen. I don't live in NYC.
Where I live, about half of all deaths are over 80, even though that accounts for a small fraction of the number of "confirmed" infections.
Testing here is still rare. Everyone I know who had it based on symptoms is now fine. None have been included in the official count.
Forewarned is forearmed: being scared is OK [assuming the data upon which it's based is valid] since it hopefully leads to action to protect oneself and one's family/community.
Fear leading to inaction can be deadly.
Fear leading to irrational action can also be deadly [as I'm sure @WildVolley will agree; "irrational" being in the eye of the beholder].
But how long can we just hide inside?
You said "elderly."
I wouldn't say a person is "high risk" based solely on age over 50. I have lots of factors working for me. Like being female, strong immune system, no chronic conditions, healthy, good weight.
Let me tell ya something, sonny. As you get older, you're at higher risk for lots of things. You can cower in fear, or you can squeeze as much enjoyment as you can while you can.
Me, I'm playing tennis , period.
Age is a risk factor; it's not the only risk factor.
Risk groups are further divided beyond "high" and "low"; it's a continuum.
Then you have to factor in co-morbidities [hypertension, diabetes, obesity, etc].
And how good your immune system is [Vitamin D seems to be a big factor].
Looking at it in a binary high/low way encourages people in the supposedly low-risk group to take more risks and discourages those in the supposedly high-risk group from living their life.
Sounds like my wife. When an older lady needed to step away from leading the local tennis group, my wife stepped in and took it over. Been playing twice a week straight through the last couple months.
For most Americans, being a type 2 diabetic is a CHOICE. A choice to eat too much, exercise too little, and eat the wrong foods. Hypertension is also often a CHOICE.
I don't accept your numbers as accurate.
In California, the current evidence is that we had community spread of the virus before Italy or Spain. We haven't had similar death rates among the young. Where I live, 0 people between the age of 0-19 have died out of a population of 3 million. So why can't I just counter with data that says the fatality rate for infected between the age of 0-19 is 0% for the infected? I'd sign my kids up for that lottery.
A lot of people here are no longer socially distancing. If what you believe is true, we should see a big spike in problems among the young.