Some baseline points with DartMarcus and a few other buddies
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Maximagq
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Baseline points? You guys sound like typical recreational players who are afraid of getting egos hurt by avoiding playing matches with loses and wins.
If there're 3 or 4 guys, just play round robin and losers pay for lunches.
I'm not the one who wanted to do baseline points. Two of the other guys had to leave by 11 and I suggested round robin matches at first OR doubles. Additionally, team singles allowed us to record since I don't have an iPad mount.
Maximagq
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gregor.b
Professional
Looks like you guys are out having a bit of fun. Not a bad level of hitting ( 4.5 plus, maybe? Not too sure about your levels over there), but nobody looks like they are taking it super seriously (which is fine).
caugas
Semi-Pro
I bought this at AMZ for $5 to record with my iphone it's bad arse!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007NFJN0I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007NFJN0I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I think the idea of "one miss and you're out" is a bad idea.
Tennis is a game where you play multiple points to win or lose one game.
So, to get better, you need to stretch your skills, you need several chances, some misses, but more clean hits in order to progress.
On miss and you're out promotes pusher tennis only.
Tennis is a game where you play multiple points to win or lose one game.
So, to get better, you need to stretch your skills, you need several chances, some misses, but more clean hits in order to progress.
On miss and you're out promotes pusher tennis only.
austintennis2005
Professional
we play where the serve and return must both go in to start the point and no winners off the return
Everyone plays it like that.
But weird spins or placements can solicit WEAKER returns, where the server get's the advantage from his "serve" or feed ball, and reaps the rewards of soliciting a shorter, or weakly hit return.
Tennis starts with a serve, you might as well simululate tennis the same way.
But weird spins or placements can solicit WEAKER returns, where the server get's the advantage from his "serve" or feed ball, and reaps the rewards of soliciting a shorter, or weakly hit return.
Tennis starts with a serve, you might as well simululate tennis the same way.
mightyrick
Legend
Jeezus, relax man. Why are you so emotionally responsive if a few young buddies decide they want to hit around with a rally game as opposed to a service game. Climb off, man. They're playing around and having fun.
austintennis2005
Professional
well the idea on the serve is not to trick anyone just to get the ball in play...if the receiver doesnt like it he can catch it and put it in play himself...i dont like to take the time to warm up my shoulder for real serving if im just going to play for 15-20 minutes with someone
Maximagq
Banned
Chad is on the other side.
Maximagq
Banned
Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone has any tips on how to make that squeaking sound like Djokovic when he slides. The point at 6:01 shows my (poor) attempt to slide and there's no sound coming off my shoes.
http://youtu.be/mPFrUZYruFs?t=6m1s
http://youtu.be/mPFrUZYruFs?t=6m1s
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
So that's what your voice sounds like!
The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Get different shoes.....
Maximagq
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crash1929
Hall of Fame
This is what I always say.
Velvet Ga el
Rookie
I don't remember your forehand being that long. I'll have to go back and look at some videos, but I suspect that improper timing may be the cause of your misses.
Maximagq
Banned
Are you referring to the takeback? I was trying to hit it flatter and play like Federer today.
Maximagq
Banned
I was trying to tree too hard, as usual.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
thanks, caugas! i'm gonna get me one!
Wow that looks great, I just ordered one as well!
caugas
Semi-Pro
stephan_58
Rookie
I noticed you have a similar takeback in your 1HBH as I do. When you take the racket back, it is away from your body and your right arm is almost straight (well, not quite, but pretty close). What's your take on that? I've been told to get rid of that "loop" and just take my racket straight back (as Federer, Wawrinka and most pros with a 1HBH do). What do you think?
This is what I mean (not the same angle but you'll get what I mean):
Nice hitting BTW and thanks for the videos!
This is what I mean (not the same angle but you'll get what I mean):
Nice hitting BTW and thanks for the videos!
Supertegwyn
Hall of Fame
I abhor your partners forehand but it seems to work alright for him.
It just looks so wrong.
Good hitting from apart from that though.
It just looks so wrong.
Good hitting from apart from that though.
Maximagq
Banned
I noticed you have a similar takeback in your 1HBH as I do. When you take the racket back, it is away from your body and your right arm is almost straight (well, not quite, but pretty close). What's your take on that? I've been told to get rid of that "loop" and just take my racket straight back (as Federer, Wawrinka and most pros with a 1HBH do). What do you think?
This is what I mean (not the same angle but you'll get what I mean):
Nice hitting BTW and thanks for the videos!
I feel like it personally works for me and it feels natural, so unless a lot of guys are taking advantage of it, then I wouldn't change it. My backhand can hold up against MOST opponents and it's a reliable shot. I don't think for me that changing to a Federer, Wawrinka style backswing would have that big of an impact without creating a loss of form trying to adapt.
stephan_58
Rookie
I agree! Good to hear that even at your level, opponents can't take advantage of it. I'm 4.0ish (I guess, we have a different rating system here) and the reason my topspin backhand is far worse than yours is not because of the takeback, but because I never practice it (I slice 90% of the time).
Maximagq
Banned
Yeah, my backhand is nowhere near as dangerous as my forehand but it is actually pretty rock solid, a lot better than most people give me credit for. My serve does suck now though LOL.
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dominikk1985
Legend
they are no bush league players, they are doing fair feeds and probably repeat on their own if a feed accidentaly gets "funny".
Maximagq
Banned
What are you talking about.... all my feeds were up the middle
5point5
Hall of Fame
What's wrong with feeding?
xFullCourtTenniSx
Hall of Fame
Sliding (on a hard court) isn't a particularly good thing to do. There's plenty of risk for injury.
Though, everytime I do slide, it's because I'm in a full sprint into a full reverse or a hard stop. I never do that fake Djokovic sliding where he just forces his legs open for no reason. For that, I imagine you'd have to stomp on the ground hard at an angle, to get the drag and slide when starting from basically low or no running speed.
Why not go for a Fed or Clijsters slide? They're legitimate and look very athletic (Fed's more so than Clijsters', which puts a person in a difficult position to recover). You simply run at full speed, and look to reverse or hard stop in one step. Maintain a low center of gravity so you can easily maintain and shift your balance so you don't fall over and can lead your body into a sprint towards the center of the court. Although, in Clijsters' case, you'd just keep spreading your legs because you don't pull your inner leg under you and let it sit way behind you (which insinuates she isn't looking to recover into the point as efficiently as possible like Fed does).
Velvet Ga el
Rookie
Yes. Admittedly this could be the camera angle, but your loop looks more excessive than I remember. Freeze frame this video at :22 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U84eIjPB_XY) and compare it with some forehands in this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztrfhIKApWg&list=UUAMbTeq_Edpx44kVK_V3MNw). Although the take back can vary depending on the height of the incoming ball and the topspin you want to generate, the ball in the first video is waist high, hardly the type of ball that would justify a higher take back. Same for the ball at :34 in the first video.
If you're trying to hit the ball flatter, then the increased loop was counterproductive. It also takes longer to execute, which can throw off your timing and make you late.
Or perhaps it's just a fiction of my imagination based on the camera angle. Certainly a possibility.
