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Not good news for Djokovic then. Tsitipas already leads h2h but hasnt peaked. Djokovic is already at peak.If someone would take Tsitsipas 15 years back in time (time machine), Safin would struggle to get a game.
Not good news for Djokovic then. Tsitipas already leads h2h but hasnt peaked. Djokovic is already at peak.If someone would take Tsitsipas 15 years back in time (time machine), Safin would struggle to get a game.
Fed celebration thread (with beautiful tennis I admit) but nothing to commemorate PETE from a Sampras fan?
Sad.
The Fed thread got hijacked, the Pete thread would never even get off the ground. I think there was a Pete thread around somewhere, probably got moved to former pro and then buried.
Unprovable, therefore untestable, therefore irrelevant.If someone would take Tsitsipas 15 years back in time (time machine), Safin would struggle to get a game.
I generally put 04 above 05 at the AO04 Fed vs 05 Safin at the same tournament. Who do you think would win?
Unprovable, therefore untestable, therefore irrelevant.
Losing to Hrbaty on this surface was pretty bad.The one vs Murray in 2006 was pretty bad too.
I think the main focus was at the Olympics in Athens, which was the next tournament. But no doubt that there he had a bad loss then.Losing to Hrbaty on this surface was pretty bad.The one vs Murray in 2006 was pretty bad too.
He played terrible at the Olympics though.I think the main focus was at the Olympics in Athens, which was the next tournament. But no doubt that there he had a bad loss then.
I think the SF was clearly better.
Sure, no question about it. In 2004 he was dominant but still beatable in a random match. That only came back in 2007 with Canas etc.He played terrible at the Olympics though.
I hope that one day he will upload Federer-Nadal Monte Carlo 2006 in a better qualityYoeri's on a roll these days.
Arnaud Clement has beaten the "giants" Djokovic and Nadal too lol. He has beaten Murray too. That too when he was way past his prime. He has beaten Agassi at the USO and is an AO finalist losing to Agassi. Sorry to burst your bubble, but many of these people you call "some tier 2 player" actually had decent careers with some impressive highlights.Why is it that the peak Federer always plays against some tier-2 players? Gainst Nadal and Djokovic fails to deliver, no?
Really ? Watch the matches Fed won vs Djokodal in the 2000s.That would be better than trolling here methinks.Why is it that the peak Federer always plays against some tier-2 players? Gainst Nadal and Djokovic fails to deliver, no?
Why is it that the peak Federer always plays against some tier-2 players? Gainst Nadal and Djokovic fails to deliver, no?
Don't forget that Djokovic was a baby here and he matured a year later because he beat Fed.Had Fed won, it would have been another weak era win because you know the story told by the obvious detractors with amazing tennis knowledge
Yeah, let's just ignore the sunshine double he played literally right after Dubai (where Fed also beat him). Djokovic was already a good player in 2007. Not as good as he would later become, but he was no weak era mug.Don't forget that Djokovic was a baby here and he matured a year later because he beat Fed
Don't forget that Djokovic was a baby here and he matured a year later because he beat Fed.Had Fed won, it would have been another weak era win because you know the story told by the obvious detractors with amazing tennis knowledge
Really? Djokovic was the baby djokovic back then. Federer played the same quality of tennis in 2016 Australian Open semifinal, extremely clean hitting, but Djokovic demolished him 6-1 6-2 in the first two sets. And that coming from a Federer fan
Really? Djokovic was the baby djokovic back then. Federer played the same quality of tennis in 2016 Australian Open semifinal, extremely clean hitting, but Djokovic demolished him 6-1 6-2 in the first two sets. And that coming from a Federer fan
I understand, but many use the baby argument when Djokovic lost in that period, but when Djokovic won ( eg AO 2008) they suddenly say that is because Fed has been exposed or things like that.Fedfans can't use the age argument for post 2012 matches, but at the same time rival fanbases refer to Novak or Rafa as "babies" when talking about early matches.Not to fall into any weak era narrative but Djokovic was 19 here so he was not even a man yet, although he was good the second half of the year. Federer destroyed Del Potro there in 2009 but lost to him in the 2009 USO final. Are we going to assume Del Potro was the same player at AO that he was at the USO? I'm not.
Huh, it’s funny. I think Djokovic played about as good in this match as he did in 2016.Really? Djokovic was the baby djokovic back then. Federer played the same quality of tennis in 2016 Australian Open semifinal, extremely clean hitting, but Djokovic demolished him 6-1 6-2 in the first two sets. And that coming from a Federer fan
But to be fair, Djokovic was much better a year later. 2007 was a breakout year for Nole. 2008 was when he played some of his best tennis in his early years. Federer also declined from 2007 version, sure. As much as people wanna play it down, the Mono had quite an impact on Roger and his confidence.Don't forget that Djokovic was a baby here and he matured a year later because he beat Fed.Had Fed won, it would have been another weak era win because you know the story told by the obvious detractors with amazing tennis knowledge
Federer in 2017-18 won 3 slams.Don't forget that Djokovic was a baby here and he matured a year later because he beat Fed.Had Fed won, it would have been another weak era win because you know the story told by the obvious detractors with amazing tennis knowledge
What does 2004-2005 have to do with 2007-2010? I don’t think Fed even played him in that first period.Federer in 2017-18 won 3 slams.
Djokovic in 2004-05 reached zero Slam 4th Rounds.
This is why I think Federer was not old in 2011-15 while Djokovic was young in 2007-10.
Check this:
What I mean is Djokovic was in his first steps into the tour in 2007-10, as he was a nobody in the previous years, while Federer in 2011-15 was a player with a lot more to give, as he proved in 2017-18.What does 2004-2005 have to do with 2007-2010? I don’t think Fed even played him in that first period.
What does 2004-2005 have to do with 2007-2010? I don’t think Fed even played him in that first period.
Then use stats from 2007-2010 to make your point.What I mean is Djokovic was in his first steps into the tour in 2007-10, as he was a nobody in the previous years, while Federer in 2011-15 was a player with a lot more to give, as he proved in 2017-18.
If we talk about ''too young'' or ''too old'' I think what they did when they were even younger/older is relevant.Then use stats from 2007-2010 to make your point.
Never mind, I’ll do the work for you.If we talk about ''too young'' or ''too old'' I think what they did when they were even younger/older is relevant.