Starting Crosses-2 piece

kenshireen

Professional
I was told that the best way to start the cross in a 2 piece setup is to string the second cross first and then string the top cross and tie off on top BEFORE pulling tension... Once the starting knot is tied you should double pull the first 2 crosses so that you do not put alot of pressure on the knot. Also it is not that critical to have the top corss have "true tension"

Any thoughts

Ken
 

zapvor

G.O.A.T.
what i do is start with the first cross, and tie a starting knot. i think YuLite prefers to start with 2nd cross like you mentioned though.
 

Zhou

Hall of Fame
If you use flying clamps you have to double pull the first 2 crosses. I would pull the first cross alone using the loop you should leave to cinch the knot. Then proceed to double pull the first 2 crosses. YUlitle prefers to begin on the second cross eliminating a lot of slack to run through the other crosses.
 

rasajadad

Hall of Fame
For me it depends on the stringing pattern. I strung an O3 Hybrid Shark OS last night and in that two piece pattern, you start the crosses at 7T but are supposed to tie the cross at 10T. Rather than hide two holes I needed, I used a starting clamp and installed and tensioned the first two crosses. That way you don't have any blocked holes at the top.
 

uk_skippy

Hall of Fame
I was told that the best way to start the cross in a 2 piece setup is to string the second cross first and then string the top cross...

I do this but instead of tie-off I hold the tail, which will be tied-off, in a starting clamp. I then tension the top/1st cross.

Once the starting knot is tied you should double pull the first 2 crosses so that you do not put alot of pressure on the knot.

I wouldn't double pull the 1st 2 crosses, although I can understand your reasoning why one could do it.

Regards

Paul
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
I was told that the best way to start the cross in a 2 piece setup is to string the second cross first and then string the top cross and tie off on top BEFORE pulling tension... Once the starting knot is tied you should double pull the first 2 crosses so that you do not put alot of pressure on the knot. Also it is not that critical to have the top corss have "true tension"

Any thoughts

Ken

There is no need to string the second cross first, if you're using a starting knot.

If you're going to double pull, tie off starting knot, weave first cross... weave second cross, then pull tension.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
I do this but instead of tie-off I hold the tail, which will be tied-off, in a starting clamp. I then tension the top/1st cross.



I wouldn't double pull the 1st 2 crosses, although I can understand your reasoning why one could do it.

Regards

Paul

Agreed. I pull tension on the first cross and have never had a knot slip through a starting grommet. If using a very thin poly, put an extra loop on the knot to make sure it doesn't pull through the grommet.
 

ambro

Professional
I'm sure a beehive knot is the exact same as a standard starting knot. When tied, it does actually somewhat resemble a beehive. I've never heard of that terminology, but I would think that it's the same knot.
 

YULitle

Hall of Fame
In my video, the reason I weave the second and then the first is to save time. There is no double pulling.

If you were to weave in the first cross first, not matter how you start your crosses, you would have to take the almost the entire length of the string and weave it across the main on the second cross. By weaving the second cross first, you can take the shorter side that you pull through and weave the first with it. It's just for saving time. Both crosses are tensioned separately.
 
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