Stringway Triple Floating Clamp

scotus

G.O.A.T.
I have read some posts that raved on the above flying clamps.

A couple of questions:

1. I went to the Stringway website, but there is no floating clamp named "Triple". Can you help me identify this? Or did the other posters just mean using 3 flying clamps instead of 2?

2. I gather from Jay Cee's posts that you get nearly zero drawback from using the triple clamps. So, is it better to get the floating clamps, rather than the double-action or single-action fixed clamps?
 

ryangoring

Professional
I had a set of them, Orangeblood here on the board got me started on them.
Yes they do have minimal drawback on them and they are great.
But what type of machine do you have, or are you going to buy one now?

Also go to newtechtennis.com to buy them locally
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
I had a set of them, Orangeblood here on the board got me started on them.
Yes they do have minimal drawback on them and they are great.
But what type of machine do you have, or are you going to buy one now?

Also go to newtechtennis.com to buy them locally

I have been waiting a couple of months now to buy the ML100 with single-action fixed clamps. But Alpha still does not have one in stock. It is due to come in any time.

But I am wondering if the flying clamp option with ML90 would do a better job.
 

ryangoring

Professional
you can get a great string job with both.
just with patience and timing.
i had them and they are a great investment.
but for the you, you have to get what you want and like.
 

Kevo

Legend
I have been waiting a couple of months now to buy the ML100 with single-action fixed clamps. But Alpha still does not have one in stock. It is due to come in any time.

I just got my ML100 two days ago. They got some in on Monday, so if you want one, you might want to call them. I have no idea how many they got in, or how many were already spoken for.
 
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Deleted member 25923

Guest
Decided on the ML100 now, have we?


I still love my stringway. Stringing polys on the dropweight seems like i'm cheating (bar barely needs to drop!).
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
I just got my ML100 two days ago. They got some in on Monday, so if you want one, you might want to call them. I have no idea how many they got in, or how many were already spoken for.

Did you get one with single-action or double-action clamps?
 

JamesBond

Rookie
I have read some posts that raved on the above flying clamps.
I gather from Jay Cee's posts that you get nearly zero drawback from using the triple clamps. So, is it better to get the floating clamps, rather than the double-action or single-action fixed clamps?

The quality of the work with SW flying clamps when compared with the SW fixed clamps (single or double action) has always been considered to be similar, except for 2 fundamental differences :

1.) with flying clamps it is necessary to double-pull the first 2 mains and the first 2 crosses. The USRSA is most critical towards "double-pulling" and although the negative effects can be minimized with an appropriate stringing method, the flying clamps have an unjustified reputation of being an inferior system when compared with fixed-clamps systems (no matter how good or bad that they may be).

2.) with SW flying clamps there is no string slippage, nor clamp "draw-back" (almost inevitable with fixed clamps), however the problem of tension loss because of the "clamp-twist" on the last tensioned main string before tie-off, has always been the most important difficulty to overcome.

The introduction by SW of their triple flying-clamp opened the way to the consecration of a new concept in flying clamp stringing. By using JayCee's method of stringing with a SW double FC + a SW triple FC it is now possible to obtain constant string tensions with virtually no tension loss during stringing. Only the very best professional stringing machines are capable of obtaining comparable results to those obtained with a SW ML.100 with these SW flying clamps.

It is nice to know that professional quality stringing can be accomplished on a simple and relatively accessible drop weight machine, you don't have to invest a fortune to make a truly top quality string job. The other advantage is that a ML.100 with flying clamps is cheaper and lighter than the versions with fixed clamps.

Personally I prefer to use the flying clamps, but I also appreciate that other stringers are more comfortable with fixed clamps. The end result is the same, the choice is strictly personal, as long as you enjoy stringing it's only important to work with what you feel is the best for you. . .
JB
 
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Deleted member 25923

Guest
The flying clamps are tempting, but i like my fixed clamps.
 

Kevo

Legend
^^^I went with the single action clamps. I figured it was only a handful of extra string jobs to pay for the difference, and it seems like there is practically nothing to fail mechanically on them. So far I'm happy with them, but my hands are still habituated to my double action clamps from before so I think it will take a few weeks before they become second nature.

I was somewhat worried about the drawback issue, but after using them I think they are pretty much like any other clamp. You just need to preload the clamp as your clamping the string, and that removes almost all of the drawback. I was already doing that before with my other stringer, so I don't think there is any serious issue, just a matter of preference. I did also test without the preload, and it seems the drawback is pulled out on the next pull anyway, but I didn't measure it so I don't know if it's 98% or 90% effective, but I don't think it will matter as long as you are consistent.

The one issue I did have was the frame shifting on the first pulls. I think I may not have tightened the hold downs enough. I think this will only be an issue for frames that have the first pull through the throat. It puts the pull at an angle instead of straight on.
 
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Deleted member 25923

Guest
DA clamps, but the SA look very nice. How much is the upgrade?
 

Kevo

Legend
I don't know what it costs to upgrade after the initial purchase. It's $100 extra to buy the machine that way, but if you already have the DA then it will probably be more since you will need new rails as well as clamp bases.
 

eagle

Hall of Fame
DA upgrade is $289. I'm guessing $389 for the SA. Neither alpha nor stringway have info on it but the cost differential of $100 is drawn from the pricing when ordering a machine with either a DA or SA.

r,
eagle
 
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