Stringway Double/triple clamp technique

[davidhshon]

Hello, I'm quite new to the stringing world. Just started yesterday..
Anyway, I have been searching and looking around the web for better clamps than the one my X-2 comes with. I constantly hear about the stringway Double/Triple clamps.
What is so special about these clamps? I don't quite understand what they do more than regular clamps, especially the triple clamp. Why do I need to clamp 3 strings at once? Where exactly would it be needed?

 

[Irvin]

Flying clamps are bad about twisting when tension is released. The triple should stop a lot of the twisting. It should reduce drawback on the tie off a lot.

 

[davidhshon]

Flying clamps are bad about twisting when tension is released. The triple should stop a lot of the twisting. It should reduce drawback on the tie off a lot.

Irvin,
thanks for the reply.

So basically I would use the stringway clamps as I would normally with the gamma ones? Or use both simultaneously? And how exactly does it reduce drawback on the tieoff? Sorry, I'm still a little bit confused on how the stringway clamp is better than the gamma one other than the aesthetics and ease of use.

 

[eelhc]

Irvin,
thanks for the reply.

So basically I would use the stringway clamps as I would normally with the gamma ones? Or use both simultaneously? And how exactly does it reduce drawback on the tieoff? Sorry, I'm still a little bit confused on how the stringway clamp is better than the gamma one other than the aesthetics and ease of use.

I've had the Gamma and Eagnas Floating clamps. I have a double and 2 Triple Stringway clamps and a Gamma machine with fixed clamps. IMO:

Stringway >>>>>>> Eagnas >> Gamma

You would use the Stringway clamps in place of the Gamma ones.

Stringway clamps are better than Gamma in multiple ways:

• Gentler on the string
• Smoother and more positive spring assisted clamp/unclamp action
• The combination of the Triple and a Double can come closer to the string spacing on the bed so there's less string deflection. Gamma's double clamps will deflect the string quite a bit if the spacing is wider or narrower.
• With the triple, there is less twisting/drawback (3 strings are clamped instead of 2). So on tieoffs less tension is lost.

Check out this video of the Stringway clamps in action.



http://youtu.be/LEGfJ3OChdo

 

[davidhshon]

Thanks eelhc.

Just one quick question, why does the person in the video start off as he does? Is that the Jaycee method? Wouldn't the first two mains not get tensioned? Maybe I'm missing something..

 

[eelhc]

Thanks eelhc.

Just one quick question, why does the person in the video start off as he does? Is that the Jaycee method? Wouldn't the first two mains not get tensioned? Maybe I'm missing something..

Yes that's the Jaycee or Jet method...

 

[Irvin]

Irvin,
thanks for the reply.

So basically I would use the stringway clamps as I would normally with the gamma ones? Or use both simultaneously? And how exactly does it reduce drawback on the tieoff? Sorry, I'm still a little bit confused on how the stringway clamp is better than the gamma one other than the aesthetics and ease of use.

A double flying clamp wants to twist when the tension head is released because the last tensioned string pulls it and there is nothing to hold it in play but the adjacent string. With a triple clamp you have two other string to hold it in place.

 

[jugheadfla]

I've had the Gamma and Eagnas Floating clamps. I have a double and 2 Triple Stringway clamps and a Gamma machine with fixed clamps. IMO:

Stringway >>>>>>> Eagnas >> Gamma

You would use the Stringway clamps in place of the Gamma ones.

Stringway clamps are better than Gamma in multiple ways:

• Gentler on the string
• Smoother and more positive spring assisted clamp/unclamp action
• The combination of the Triple and a Double can come closer to the string spacing on the bed so there's less string deflection. Gamma's double clamps will deflect the string quite a bit if the spacing is wider or narrower.
• With the triple, there is less twisting/drawback (3 strings are clamped instead of 2). So on tieoffs less tension is lost.

Check out this video of the Stringway clamps in action.

So I received my double and triple clamp yesterday and tried stringing my first racket with it. Love the clamps , but on the side where I used the triple clamp for the mains, it seemed like the tension on those strings were higher than the side I used the double clamp on. Is that normal? Should it make much of a difference?

 

[eelhc]

So I received my double and triple clamp yesterday and tried stringing my first racket with it. Love the clamps , but on the side where I used the triple clamp for the mains, it seemed like the tension on those strings were higher than the side I used the double clamp on. Is that normal? Should it make much of a difference?

It's been a while since I've used the Stringway clamps as I've moved onto a Neos 1500 some time ago but I did not notice a significant tension difference. How do you tell? pluck the string for sound frequency?

 

[jugheadfla]

It's been a while since I've used the Stringway clamps as I've moved onto a Neos 1500 some time ago but I did not notice a significant tension difference. How do you tell? pluck the string for sound frequency?

Yes. I usually do that every time I finish the mains just to see how consistent I was or if any one of them seems way off. I could tell there was a significant difference between the 2 sides when using a triple and double.

 

[eelhc]

Yes. I usually do that every time I finish the mains just to see how consistent I was or if any one of them seems way off. I could tell there was a significant difference between the 2 sides when using a triple and double.

I always remove the clamp while still pulling tension (before lockout or if on a dropweight, before weight goes to level) so the tensioner is not pulling against the clamp (well only the clamp on the other side of the stringbed). Is this what you are doing? Maybe try clamping only 2 strings with the triple?

 

[jugheadfla]

Maybe try clamping only 2 strings with the triple?

I tried that as well, but the only problem is that when you do that, because the triple is bigger, it actually sticks out and blocks the next grommet

 

[tennisbike]

Just one quick question, why does the person in the video start off as he does? Is that the Jaycee method? Wouldn't the first two mains not get tensioned? Maybe I'm missing something..

I am not sure that is JET/JayCee method of starting. I am not familiar if there is a particular way JET/JayCee method starts with floating clamp. And I do follow a stringing routine inspired by JET/JayCee method and I check all my string jobs with a StringMeter.
Disclaimer, I string with a fix clamp system and rarely used floating clamp so I am not an expert in using floating clamp. What I observed from the video is that there were a lot of double pull, i.e. pulling two strings at the same time, including the Yonex loop at end of mains. I read and watched video that when Parnell do JET/JayCee and sometimes he double pulls but he also "walk" the tension by pressing string down to pull the next string. Whatever method you do, I just think it would be good to verify with StringMeter to check string to string consistency. If you have a huge difference between strings then your string job most likely is not .. ideal.

 

[esgee48]

Plucking a string to hear the frequency is not really valid unless they have the same tension and are the same length. If you pluck the same strings on different sides of the central mains, then you could make a case, but even then you do not account for string relaxation.

 

[jugheadfla]

Plucking a string to hear the frequency is not really valid unless they have the same tension and are the same length. If you pluck the same strings on different sides of the central mains, then you could make a case, but even then you do not account for string relaxation.

that is what I was doing the same string on the opposite sides, and yea they are never perfect but usually pretty close. When I used a triple on one side and a double on the other, they sounded vastly different and it was the same for each one.