Sunscreen and Both UVA/UVB Protection

varuscelli

Professional
In searching through Talk Tennis, I can't see that this topic has been discussed in any great detail, so I'm going to see if anyone has comments on the UVA/UVB sunscreen protection issue.

After doing a bit of research into the current sunscreens available from different manufacturers, it seems pretty apparent that there is a lot of misleading information out there, especially in terms of sunscreens that provide adequate UVA protection (in addition to UVB protection) as specified by the FDA.

While many sunscreens are good for screening much of the damaging UVB, UVA has long been ignored or de-emphasized. Current medical research indicates that there is much greater need for additional sunscreen protection from UVA rays than has been available in the past. There are some very interesting articles out there concerning the dangers of inadequate UVA protection and just how many sunscreens do little or nothing in terms of true UVA screening.

Here's a link to some of the info I've been reading:

http://www.consumersearch.com/www/family/sunscreen/fullstory.html

The bad part is that many of the sunscreens on the market provide either no protection or only minimal protection from UVA rays, and that very few of those provide the levels of protection specified by the FDA to be labeled as having Broad Spectrum protection. And even fewer sunscreens that are tailored to sports provide the FDA recommended levels of protection for UVA.

I had been using Coppertone Sport sunscreen for a long time, but many of the Coppertone claims are misleading. For instance, if the bottle indicates "UVA/UVB" protection, but does not specifically state "Broad Spectrum," then the lotion itself very likely falls short of FDA standards for UVA protection. (Some of the Coppertone lotions are Broad Spectrum, but many are not, even though they show UVA on the label.) The FDA states that if the lotion does not contain avobenzone, titanium dioxide, or zinc oxide then it cannot be labeled as Broad Spectrum. The Coppertone folks (and others) get around that by not specifically stating Broad Spectrum on their labels, but at the same time putting the misleading "UVA/UVB" on the labels, as though the product is providing true UVA protection (when if fact, only minimal UVA protection may be what you are really getting). This can absolutely give the consumer a false sense of security when using those lotions.

For my personal use, I'm now looking at Neutrogena Active Breathable Sunblock with avobenzone.

(Ok, Ok, even Neutrogena is being sued in California -- as are many other manufacturers -- for using the word "Sunblock" rather than "Sunscreen," and even they are in violation of the 2002 FDA mandate that no sunscreen should be labeled as "waterproof" when in fact all of them that claim to be waterproof are technically only "water resistant." But at least the Neutrogena has the avobenzone that the FDA says should be used, and it is made for the active -- sports -- user.)

Any comments?
 

varuscelli

Professional
My main point is this:

Unless you are using a sunscreen that clearly states "Broad Spectrum" on the label, it is likely not providing FDA-approved levels of protection from UVA rays.

Any given sunscreen may have an adequate SPF rating to protect against UVB rays, but unless it also contains one of the three FDA accepted ingredients (avobenzone, titanium dioxide, or zinc oxide), it's likely not providing adequate protection from UVA rays. (SPF rating is only a measure of UVB protection and has no bearing on UVA protection.)

UVA does not cause sunburn in the way UVB does, but penetrates more deeply into the flesh, and scientific studies show UVA and can cause as many health concerns as UVB, including loss of skin elasticity, wrinkling, premature aging, and worst of all be a contributor to development of skin cancer.

Don't be fooled by a sunscreen label that states UVA/UVB protection if it does not also state that it is Broad Spectrum. I have not studied every label on every available sunscreen, but my guess is that if the label says UVA but does not say Broad Spectrum, then you likely won't find the FDA approved ingredients for UVA protection anywhere on the active ingredients label, despite the manufactures implied claim on the label.

My biggest disappointment was with the Coppertone Sports sunscreens (that I formerly used as my main sports sunscreen). Despite the many different containers and versions of the Coppertone sunscreens, apparently only ONE (the Coppertone Gel) has the FDA approved ingredients for UBA protection, yet virtually all of their sunscreen containers state that they provide UVA protection. The fact is that while these sunscreens might provide some level of UVA protection, they are not providing the level of protection recommended by the FDA. (I'm not just picking on Coppertone, though. It seems like most of the other sunscreen manufacturers use the same misleading tactics in what I consider falsely labeling their products as providing UVA protection when they really don't, in most cases.)
 

hgb765

Rookie
i did a research paper on skin cancer this year
and throught my research i found out that the different spfs of sunscreen
ie. 15 and 45 sound like they differ by a factor of 3 when in reality spf 45 is only a little bit more protective. as for the uva rays, i remember reading something like most sunsreens don't really do much to protect from that
so pretty much the best way to protect your skin from the sun is clothing
 
Look for something with mexoryl in it. It was recently approved by the FDA so it may not be on the market in the US yet, but has been in Europe and Canada for years. I believe L'oreal makes it.
 

tennisprofl

Semi-Pro
get neutrogena sheer 45 spf...its broad spechtrum and comes in spf 45, 55 and it is uva/uvb..its light weight, non oily, and u can barely feel it on ur skin. its good
 

varuscelli

Professional
tennisprofl said:
get neutrogena sheer 45 spf...its broad spechtrum and comes in spf 45, 55 and it is uva/uvb..its light weight, non oily, and u can barely feel it on ur skin. its good

Yeah, those Neutrogena folks seem to be doing it right as far as what they're putting out there in terms of Broad Sprectrum protection (and they've been producing quality products for a long time, I think).
 

LuckyR

Legend
Hahaha... reminds me of a true story. In Kona one of the retired guys says to a buddy of mine "you see that guy over there with the long pants and shirt? He's a doctor. What kind of doctor do you think he is?" My buddy had no idea and said so. The other guy stated he was a Dermatologist, and it all made sense.
 

Porsche CGT

New User
LuckyR said:
Hahaha... reminds me of a true story. In Kona one of the retired guys says to a buddy of mine "you see that guy over there with the long pants and shirt? He's a doctor. What kind of doctor do you think he is?" My buddy had no idea and said so. The other guy stated he was a Dermatologist, and it all made sense.

When I was 7 or 8, the mother of someone on my baseball team always watched games with long pants and sleeves, a huge hat, and gloves. It was very hot, too. It seemed so wierd until I figured out she was. Yep... a dermatologist.
 

LuckyR

Legend
I guess you only have to excise someone's nose and cheek off a few times before you start asking yourself,"what the heck am I doin'?"
 

Waimea_Boy

Semi-Pro
watch_the_ball said:
Look for something with mexoryl in it. It was recently approved by the FDA so it may not be on the market in the US yet, but has been in Europe and Canada for years. I believe L'oreal makes it.
Exactly. Mexoryl is the best while avobenzone is only decent. Mexoryl has the greatest photostability so it protects much longer, thus requiring less frequent reapplication.
 

varuscelli

Professional
Waimea_Boy said:
Exactly. Mexoryl is the best while avobenzone is only decent. Mexoryl has the greatest photostability so it protects much longer, thus requiring less frequent reapplication.

From what I understand, the L'Oreal product contains both avobenzone and mexoryl (according to the link I originally posted on this topic, above). Avobenzone for long UVA rays, mexoryl for short UVA rays.

From what I can see (and I might be wrong about this), the L'Oreal product isn't yet available in the US, but should be by later in 2006.

Here's some of the latest info (less than a week old) on FDA approval of the L'Oreal sunscreen with mexoryl.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=47957&nfid=crss
 

varuscelli

Professional
Waimea_Boy said:
Exactly. Mexoryl is the best while avobenzone is only decent. Mexoryl has the greatest photostability so it protects much longer, thus requiring less frequent reapplication.

The other questions I'd have about the L'Oreal products with mexoryl would be 1.) Cost and 2.) Effectiveness as sports lotions.

Both products that I can see (Ombrelle and Anthelios) seem to be fairly expensive (two or three times the cost of most USA available broad spectrum sunscreens, if I'm not mistaken) and I can't really tell if there is a version that's tailored to sports activity.

(On cost, am I confusing Canadian $$ with US $$?)

Anything on that from you Canadians or European folks or the across-the-border smugglers out there? ;)
 
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