Tennis is probably most traumatic sport.

Aykhan Mammadov

Hall of Fame
I have been playing 5.5 years, 3 times a week, mostly with the coach, 1 hour each. I'm 41 now. In the first year I got trauma of the wrist, 2 years ago I had tennis elbow which I couldn't resolve without physio-therapy and finally changed a racquet and came back after 3 months of absence. Recently I had trauma of the knee and missed training for about 4 months.

But I'm amateur.

I recall PROs and their traumas. Safin missed for a year or more, Henin missed because of trauma, Hingis got trauma and argued with Tacchini, Rios left tennis because of traumas, Agassi had traumas at some period of his career, Coria now has trauma,.... and we can continue the list, hundreds and hundreds of PROs periodically gets traumas.

I started think that tennis is the most traumatic sport in the world. It is more traumatic than karate, box, fightings, basketball, football and etc...

Why? Because only in tennis a ball is moving with the speed about 100-200 km/h and this fact demands from a PRO instant reaction, this contributes into great shocks in chords, tendons.

No doubt - in karate u may get a hit in your face but that is something EXPECTED by nature of that sport or so to say unlucky situation. But here there is permanent load on tendons and chords during hours. And mostly traumas appear just in chords and tendons in tennis.

Conclusion: PRos and amateurs, leave tennis, it is NOT healthy. Otherwise we must fight against transformation of tennis into the sport demanding more physical condidtioning than pure real tennis game, feeling of the ball.
 

Sadyv

Rookie
I started think that tennis is the most traumatic sport in the world. It is more traumatic than karate, box, fightings, basketball, football and etc...

Uhm, no, its not.

MAny of the injuries that you see tennis players take time off for are commonplace in those other sports you listed, and, this is key, injuries that you are expected to play through.

For instance, that injury that forced ROddick to quit during his last match? Football, basketball, boxing, wrestling, if a guy quit with an injury like that, he'd be labeled a ***** and accused of having no heart.
 

edmondsm

Legend
I started think that tennis is the most traumatic sport in the world. It is more traumatic than karate, box, fightings, basketball, football and etc...

Why? Because only in tennis a ball is moving with the speed about 100-200 km/h and this fact demands from a PRO instant reaction, this contributes into great shocks in chords, tendons.

So you honestly think that tennis is harder on your body than mixed martial arts, or american football. You've got to be joking. The average career of an American football player is 3 years for a reason. Tennis is tame compared to most sports. Blanket statements are usually wrong, but this one is exceptionally bad.
 
Uhm, no, its not.

MAny of the injuries that you see tennis players take time off for are commonplace in those other sports you listed, and, this is key, injuries that you are expected to play through.

For instance, that injury that forced ROddick to quit during his last match? Football, basketball, boxing, wrestling, if a guy quit with an injury like that, he'd be labeled a ***** and accused of having no heart.

On the other hand tennis is a high-skill sport you can't play with an impaired wrist. On the other in Football, an offensive lineman just has to push like a hog, so he can play with sprained parts.
 

edmondsm

Legend
On the other hand tennis is a high-skill sport you can't play with an impaired wrist. On the other in Football, an offensive lineman just has to push like a hog, so he can play with sprained parts.

Very true, but I also think that tennis players have a very low threshold for pain. It seems this way because they whine constantly about getting the ball hit at them. I get so sick of players shooting dirty looks across the net when their opponents go to the body. It's a freakin' tennis ball. It's made of rubber and filled with air. It's also a completely legal play. Let some of these guys get plunked with a 90 mph fastball and see if they're still whining.
 

pow

Hall of Fame
Tennis is not that bad, I joined tennis because I was tearing my ankle ligament too much in basketball and I haven't had a problem for the longest time.
 

beernutz

Hall of Fame
I have been playing 5.5 years, 3 times a week, mostly with the coach, 1 hour each. I'm 41 now. In the first year I got trauma of the wrist, 2 years ago I had tennis elbow which I couldn't resolve without physio-therapy and finally changed a racquet and came back after 3 months of absence. Recently I had trauma of the knee and missed training for about 4 months.

But I'm amateur.

I recall PROs and their traumas. Safin missed for a year or more, Henin missed because of trauma, Hingis got trauma and argued with Tacchini, Rios left tennis because of traumas, Agassi had traumas at some period of his career, Coria now has trauma,.... and we can continue the list, hundreds and hundreds of PROs periodically gets traumas.

I started think that tennis is the most traumatic sport in the world. It is more traumatic than karate, box, fightings, basketball, football and etc...

Why? Because only in tennis a ball is moving with the speed about 100-200 km/h and this fact demands from a PRO instant reaction, this contributes into great shocks in chords, tendons.

No doubt - in karate u may get a hit in your face but that is something EXPECTED by nature of that sport or so to say unlucky situation. But here there is permanent load on tendons and chords during hours. And mostly traumas appear just in chords and tendons in tennis.

Conclusion: PRos and amateurs, leave tennis, it is NOT healthy. Otherwise we must fight against transformation of tennis into the sport demanding more physical condidtioning than pure real tennis game, feeling of the ball.

April 1st?
 

kingdaddy41788

Hall of Fame
Very true, but I also think that tennis players have a very low threshold for pain. It seems this way because they whine constantly about getting the ball hit at them. I get so sick of players shooting dirty looks across the net when their opponents go to the body. It's a freakin' tennis ball. It's made of rubber and filled with air. It's also a completely legal play. Let some of these guys get plunked with a 90 mph fastball and see if they're still whining.

why don't you stand still, and I'll serve as hard as I can straight at your body? Sound good? It's dumb to say this, first of all, because that wasn't the kind of pain being discussed. Anybody would be hurt if they got hit with a 90 mph fastball. Anybody would be hurt (albeit less) if they got hit with a 120+ mph overhead.

p.s. I've never heard any player whine about getting the ball hit at them. But I bet it would **** you off if someone nailed you in the middle of a match.
 

kingdaddy41788

Hall of Fame
Uhm, no, its not.

MAny of the injuries that you see tennis players take time off for are commonplace in those other sports you listed, and, this is key, injuries that you are expected to play through.

For instance, that injury that forced ROddick to quit during his last match? Football, basketball, boxing, wrestling, if a guy quit with an injury like that, he'd be labeled a ***** and accused of having no heart.

You might be expected to play through it, but you're not doing all of the work yourself. And, as someone else already said, you can't really play tennis well with a messed up wrist. You can, however, push a guy over with your body.

I'm not saying tennis is the most traumatic sport. I think that's a bit ridiculous too. But I think it is the most demanding on your body.
 
BTW, I have no sympathy for the acrobatic cheerleading ********. If they want to risk broken necks and death that's they're demented business.
 

davey

Rookie
American football and boxing are the most demanding sports on the body. Tennis, even at the highest level isn't as demanding. I would say tennis is slightly less demanding than basketball.

In a grand slam players play everyother day, sometimes on consecutive days, sometimes on two days rest. Most pros can handle this and some handle more. If there is rain or the player is playing singles, doubles, mixed doubles, they could play on consecutive days more frequently. NBA players play about this much but basketball is much more exhausting with more continuous running.

Football is played once a week for a reason, the amount of contact the average player goes through is about the same as being in a car accident.

Boxers fight less frequently than football players play.

The starter of this thread either has bad form in his strokes and/or has a bad racket. It's no more complicated than that.

As far as non-contact sports go, nothing puts more strain on any joint than pitching. Even if pitchers with perfect motions get hurt(see Mark Prior). Pitchers go through elbow or shoulder surgery so often that doctors have perfected routines allowing pitchers to return from injuries quite successfully. There even a surgical procedure named after a baseball player, Tommy John.
 

tennis_hand

Hall of Fame
Seriously tennis is indeed a sport that damages a lot on the body if you do not do it right or do not know how to rest from it. So make sure you do it right, then it'll be competitively fun.
 

Steve Huff

G.O.A.T.
I'd guess that Mahmoud has not seen or been around boxing much. Boxers get brain damage from all the punches to the head they take. After a bout, they pee up blood from all the kidney shots they receive. I've never seen a boxer who hadn't had his nose broke at least once. Wrist injuries are very common, not only from hitting odd shaped surfaces (like a head) but from working out on a weight bag. Even their knees get torn ligaments from falling in an odd position when they are knocked unconscious. Some have broken their ankles or torn ACL's just falling after being KO'd. And, I'd guess that approximately 1 boxer dies every year from being severely overmatched in the ring.

Yes, a tennis ball goes in excess of 120mph, but those don't make contact with a players head too often. Plus, a tennis ball is softer than a fist.
 

FarFed

Rookie
Aykhan,

I think you're basing your assumptions from your experiences, and those aren't necessarily indicative of injuries to pro players. Sure, I too played a little here and there and immediately developed heel spurs, but that was because of MY sheer stupidity, i.e. using hardly any physical training and no proper guidance.

I think Pro players are smarter than that, because the product we see on court is a result of years of conditioning. I am not saying they don't get injured, they do and that's because of their gruelling schedules, again as a result of their mistakes in making personal choices.
 
I find it quite funny that all these surveys about the most dangerous/traumatic sports always seem to overlook horseriding, which has an absolutly enormous injury rate.
Lets put it this way, this year in the uk 7 riders were killed and that was considered a very very good year.
The amount of head and neck injuries, broken bones and torn liganemts is incredible.
 

rafan

Hall of Fame
Its the first year I have managed to follow the tennis tour and I am quite astonished as to much tennis takes out of the average high ranking player. I notice in rugby - especially - after a match the team can go off for a good
"celebration" and let their hair down. Not so in tennis - the discipline this game entails is awesome. They have to play day after day, sometimes in very high temperatures - often still suffering from jet lag and boy do they perform! I have the greatest admiration for all our top and upcoming players.
I think tennis is the ultimate sport.
 

Eviscerator

Banned
I have been playing 5.5 years, 3 times a week, mostly with the coach, 1 hour each. I'm 41 now. In the first year I got trauma of the wrist, 2 years ago I had tennis elbow which I couldn't resolve without physio-therapy and finally changed a racquet and came back after 3 months of absence. Recently I had trauma of the knee and missed training for about 4 months.

But I'm amateur.

I recall PROs and their traumas. Safin missed for a year or more, Henin missed because of trauma, Hingis got trauma and argued with Tacchini, Rios left tennis because of traumas, Agassi had traumas at some period of his career, Coria now has trauma,.... and we can continue the list, hundreds and hundreds of PROs periodically gets traumas.

I started think that tennis is the most traumatic sport in the world. It is more traumatic than karate, box, fightings, basketball, football and etc...

Why? Because only in tennis a ball is moving with the speed about 100-200 km/h and this fact demands from a PRO instant reaction, this contributes into great shocks in chords, tendons.

No doubt - in karate u may get a hit in your face but that is something EXPECTED by nature of that sport or so to say unlucky situation. But here there is permanent load on tendons and chords during hours. And mostly traumas appear just in chords and tendons in tennis.

Conclusion: PRos and amateurs, leave tennis, it is NOT healthy. Otherwise we must fight against transformation of tennis into the sport demanding more physical condidtioning than pure real tennis game, feeling of the ball.

I understand what you are saying, but do not compare it to other violent sports because it diminishes your overall point. Hockey, Boxing, Martial Arts, Hurling, Rugby, Football, Baseball etc. are all more dangerous and players end their careers on a regular basis playing those sports.
 

kingdaddy41788

Hall of Fame
American football and boxing are the most demanding sports on the body. Tennis, even at the highest level isn't as demanding. I would say tennis is slightly less demanding than basketball.

In a grand slam players play everyother day, sometimes on consecutive days, sometimes on two days rest. Most pros can handle this and some handle more. If there is rain or the player is playing singles, doubles, mixed doubles, they could play on consecutive days more frequently. NBA players play about this much but basketball is much more exhausting with more continuous running.

Football is played once a week for a reason, the amount of contact the average player goes through is about the same as being in a car accident.

Boxers fight less frequently than football players play.

The starter of this thread either has bad form in his strokes and/or has a bad racket. It's no more complicated than that.

As far as non-contact sports go, nothing puts more strain on any joint than pitching. Even if pitchers with perfect motions get hurt(see Mark Prior). Pitchers go through elbow or shoulder surgery so often that doctors have perfected routines allowing pitchers to return from injuries quite successfully. There even a surgical procedure named after a baseball player, Tommy John.

I wish I could find the magazine article, but I can't. Anyway, one of the LA Lakers is quoted in it saying that tennis is the most physically demanding thing he's done. So, he's playing basketball at the highest level and tennis not at the highest level. I think he would know better than you.
 

kingdaddy41788

Hall of Fame
I'd guess that Mahmoud has not seen or been around boxing much. Boxers get brain damage from all the punches to the head they take. After a bout, they pee up blood from all the kidney shots they receive. I've never seen a boxer who hadn't had his nose broke at least once. Wrist injuries are very common, not only from hitting odd shaped surfaces (like a head) but from working out on a weight bag. Even their knees get torn ligaments from falling in an odd position when they are knocked unconscious. Some have broken their ankles or torn ACL's just falling after being KO'd. And, I'd guess that approximately 1 boxer dies every year from being severely overmatched in the ring.

Yes, a tennis ball goes in excess of 120mph, but those don't make contact with a players head too often. Plus, a tennis ball is softer than a fist.

I'm not talking damage; that's a moot point. Rugby, football, boxing, lacrosse, etc. are much more physically damaging than tennis. But tennis is more demanding fitness wise.
 

Sadyv

Rookie
I'm not talking damage; that's a moot point. Rugby, football, boxing, lacrosse, etc. are much more physically damaging than tennis. But tennis is more demanding fitness wise.

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

I guarantee you, Nadal, Canas, Muster in his prime, all would be gasping for air after 2-3 rounds of boxing, even if the pro was just going easy on them and slapping and not hitting them. By round 5, they would be dead from exhaustion. There is not relaxing during the rounds of a boxing match, no going for the towel, no picking a wedgie out of your butt, its constatly moving, keeping the arms up, the body wound and ready to spring and poised to explode and react. And thats not even factoring in throwing punches.

And they wouldn't even last one period in a wrestling match. Wrestling is perhaps the ultimate sport for conditioning, as at every second of the match virtually every muscle in your body is straining at near maximum intensity.

On the flip side, simulating the type of movement that goes on in a tennis match would not fatigue the elite wrestler or boxer.
 

kingdaddy41788

Hall of Fame
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!

I guarantee you, Nadal, Canas, Muster in his prime, all would be gasping for air after 2-3 rounds of boxing, even if the pro was just going easy on them and slapping and not hitting them. By round 5, they would be dead from exhaustion. There is not relaxing during the rounds of a boxing match, no going for the towel, no picking a wedgie out of your butt, its constatly moving, keeping the arms up, the body wound and ready to spring and poised to explode and react. And thats not even factoring in throwing punches.

And they wouldn't even last one period in a wrestling match. Wrestling is perhaps the ultimate sport for conditioning, as at every second of the match virtually every muscle in your body is straining at near maximum intensity.

On the flip side, simulating the type of movement that goes on in a tennis match would not fatigue the elite wrestler or boxer.

very true. And because of the part in bold, this is my favorite post ever.
 
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Gugafan_Redux

Guest
On the flip side, simulating the type of movement that goes on in a tennis match would not fatigue the elite wrestler or boxer.

I think if we're going to compare these sports, then we'd have to say that the wrestler and boxer would not likely have the agility and flexibility and lightness to move quickly, swing freely, loosely, accurately, recover, and react.
 

edmondsm

Legend
I think if we're going to compare these sports, then we'd have to say that the wrestler and boxer would not likely have the agility and flexibility and lightness to move quickly, swing freely, loosely, accurately, recover, and react.

There are tennis players that have next to none of those qualities. Justin Gimelstob, Karlovic...as far as pure athletes go they are pretty terrible. Its pretty common for bad natural athletes to be successful tennis players. They can bomb a serve, lunge for a volley and do that all the way to the top 50. You won't find near as many clumsy pros in other sports like soccer.
 
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