silentkman
Hall of Fame
whats the final verdict on the Clash? will it be around in three years?
The Clash
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Thiem's 1HB
Rookie
Normal Clash is too light but the Clash Tour is a great racquet. Best tweener frame out there that doesn't destroy your arm.
SpaceAce42
Banned
london calling?
Wheelz
Hall of Fame
That's not true for everyone. Normal Clash can fit many people even good players. You can add just a bit of weight @12 to match it to TOUR spec, they are very close. I know some good players , heavy hitters, that play with lighter racquets.
Thiem's 1HB
Rookie
A blob of lead at 12 doesn't bring it to Tour spec at all. Standard racquet is simply too light weight unless you're a small woman or a junior.
Wheelz
Hall of Fame
A 322SW racquet doesn't make you a pro versus a 312SW racquet. You are probably an open type player and I understand you are used to heavier racquets because you have good technique, fitness and anticipation but you can't generalize for all adult tennis players. Specs between both models are pretty close and based on TennisW, the twistweight is even higher on the regular model than the TOUR.
Thiem's 1HB
Rookie
No.
Disagree
FuzzyYellowBalls
Legend
Yes it will be around. You must continually re-frame your thinking if you start imagining more than 15% of tennis players adding lead to their rackets or even reading a forum such as this. The Clash marketing will keep it around for sure and it's a very popular racket. I think its unique, but in my opinion, it would just have to be not terrible for it to stick around as long as Wilson wants it. The normal or average rec player probably doesn't even know off hand how much their racket weighs.
Sorry, you're wrong. Compared to the Clash 100, the Tour has a higher swing weight and an essentially identical Twist Weight. Add a few grams at 12 to bring up the SW to the desired spec (and balance at the handle if you want to retain the very head-light balance) and you effectively have a Clash Tour--likely with much better spec accuracy given Wilson's crappy quality control (i.e. the racquet you *want* vs the random racquet you end up with). This is exactly what I did:
Static weight: 329g
Balance: 12.63 (7 pts HL)
Swing weight: 334
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Thiem's 1HB
Rookie
No.
1HBHfanatic
Legend
-yes, the clash is selling well at the clubs, and players are giving good reviews
-a 95" head size with 16/20 or 18/20 pattern would be a good racket for my game
-how about a 100" clash.PRO with 18/20 pattern ??!! wouldn't that be something
-a 95" head size with 16/20 or 18/20 pattern would be a good racket for my game
-how about a 100" clash.PRO with 18/20 pattern ??!! wouldn't that be something
ichaseballs
Professional
the 98 with a little weight is great. got a good deal getting it used off an auction site
BBender716
Semi-Pro
Completely agree. The Clash 98 is like a Blade v7 that I can actually wield. Great feel, tremendous spin, and very solid. People miss the fact that it's not just a slightly smaller head size. It's a very different frame with higher swingweight despite a smaller head.
I'm scared if I'll not like them
BBender716
Semi-Pro
Clash 98 plays with a higher swingweight than the Clash 100 and almost plays like a more maneuverable Blade but with less plow (because the Blade has a ridiculous amount of that!).
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nickarnold2000
Hall of Fame
Assuming that you've already demoed it's always better to buy them at the same time from the same batch for more accuracy. Try googling this "Wilson clash quality control". There's a youtube video of a guy measuring 10 clashes static weight; they're quite close. I would also use the matching service.
I have ordered Prince Textreme Tour 310g and Wilson Clah 100 for demo. I have only played with it for few minutes because I have twisted my ankle.
I have enjoyed it for those few minutes but I'm not sure thats enough.
So right now I don't know what to do? I'm scared to order one because of Wilson control. But what if I order 2 and turn's out I don't like them?
Ufffffff
nickarnold2000
Hall of Fame
My advice would be to first get healthy and then go through the demo process again. This way you’ll know for sure if a particular frame is right for you. It definitely sucks to be injured!
Yes, I was so angry grrrr. So I had to return the racquets and didn't had a chance to test the Clash. I decided the Textreme Tour 310g is not for me.
The thing is Clash racquets are now on discount on TWE and I can get 15€ back If I buy the racquet now.
Usually it is 180€, and now I can get it for 135€
weelie
Professional
I sure would be interested! I play a Dunlop m3.0 (98) and a Head Graph Radical S (102)... and bought a Clash Tour. Have had it restrung tighter twice... tested today, it plays better now.... but still, sometimes erratic. I have trouble hitting the court when flattening my forehand and letting it rip. The m3.0 and the S are both 16x19, but tighter spacing in the sweetspot... maybe that's the reason?
ichaseballs
Professional
you get access to easy spin though... it is a bit addicting
Happi
Hall of Fame
For that kind of money you could get an Angell racquet that is always true to spec.
The Clash Tour was the worst racquet I played last year, totally erratic, no control, did not like the feeling at all, but hey that is just my opinion.
Happi
Hall of Fame
I have played with TC100 63RA for many hours. Unfortunately it bothers my shoulder so I had to gave up on it. Such a shame because it really is fantastic performance racquet!
roger presley
Hall of Fame
After playing with Clash,every other tweener feels like baseball bat.
1HBHfanatic
Legend
tennis347
Hall of Fame
Is it jarring to your shoulder on off center hits? Or is kind of low powered and you have to swing with alot of racquet head speed to generate any power?
Thiem's 1HB
Rookie
You lose strength / muscle mass playing with these 'lite' racquets. The Tour is definitely the better stick.
BBender716
Semi-Pro
I think it really depends on what you're hitting against. If you're trying to return guys bombing serves and huge forehands, the lite racquets don't cut it. But if you're playing rec tennis and are 3.5-4.0 it's not a total deal breaker at all.
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roger presley
Hall of Fame
Agree
It is not low powered, plenty of power. You can finish point with no problem.
The SW is little high for me (300 unstrung) and it is to firm for me.
tennis347
Hall of Fame
I can see the firmness being an issue and a 330 SW is a pretty hefty frame.
Great frame but I had to gave up on it. So now I'm looking for my baseline play, but one that is arm friendly
Have you tried Clash 100?
tennis347
Hall of Fame
Great frame but I had to gave up on it. So now I'm looking for my baseline play, but one that is arm friendly
Have you tried Clash 100?
I tried the Clash 98 and didn't like the feel. The Blade v7 line is much better IMO. I am not a fan of wide beam racquets. IMO the feel and control suffer too much. I have Angell ASL2 that I am still experimenting with and have been playing with the Blade 98 v7 16 x 19 for a while. I also like the Angell K7 Red. Not looking at any other racquets for the time being.
DrGaryx275
New User
Clash 98 closest racket to perfect
Whats so special about it? Can you compare it to Clash 100?
DrGaryx275
New User
The 100 was too large, powerful and not as much control. I mostly saw much more control with the 98 with plenty of power and spin. You have to go through all the rackets to fin he heaviest one. They are all different
speedysteve
Legend
"Well, I just got back an I wish I never leave now" ..
But that's not true. Who was it who said "you never know quite where the next shot is going".
The tour sounds more promising but I'm only in the market for the most supreme arm friendliness, and the Clash will never be that.
But that's not true. Who was it who said "you never know quite where the next shot is going".
The tour sounds more promising but I'm only in the market for the most supreme arm friendliness, and the Clash will never be that.
weelie
Professional
Crossfire ZX at 64 / 44 LB. My old Head Radical Graphene S (102) is strung at the same tension. I think the m3.0 is a lot looser, same string and same differential.
sanister
Professional
Do it!
Its a great racquet. I'd look for one from the tw classifieds, if on fence. Easy to sell it back too.
