Rd | Opp. | Opp. R | W-L | Score |
---|---|---|---|---|
Final | C. EvertEvert (3) | 3 | - | 6-17-63 |
Semi | C. Kohde-KilschKohde-Kilsch (8) | 10 | - | 6-26-3 |
Quarter | H. MandlikovaMandlikova (5) | 5 | - | 6-26-2 |
R16 | C. LindqvistLindqvist (13) | 16 | - | 6-07-5 |
R32 | C. MacgregorMacgregor | 131 | - | 6-16-2 |
R64 | J. ThompsonThompson | 99 | - | 6-06-1 |
R128 | A. JonssonJonsson | 178 | - | 6-36-1 |
Rd | Opp. | Opp. R | W-L | Score |
---|---|---|---|---|
Final | N. ZverevaZvereva (13) | 15 | - | 6-06-0 |
Semi | G. SabatiniSabatini (4) | 5 | - | 6-37-63 |
Quarter | B. Fulco-VilellaFulco-Vilella | 37 | - | 6-06-1 |
R16 | N. TauziatTauziat | 29 | - | 6-16-3 |
R32 | S. Sloane-LundySloane-Lundy | 106 | - | 6-06-1 |
R64 | R. ReisReis | 185 | - | 6-16-0 |
R128 | N. GuerreeGuerree | 224 | - | 6-06-4 |
Rd | Opp. | Opp. R | W-L | Score |
---|---|---|---|---|
Final | M. NavratilovaNavratilova (2) | 2 | - | 5-76-26-1 |
Semi | P. ShriverShriver (3) | 4 | - | 6-16-2 |
Quarter | P. Paradis-MangonParadis-Mangon | 36 | - | 6-36-1 |
R16 | M. FernandezFernandez (16) | 12 | - | 6-26-2 |
R32 | T. PhelpsPhelps | 71 | - | 6-36-1 |
R64 | K. Quentrec EagleQuentrec Eagle | 168 | - | 6-26-0 |
R128 | H. NaNa | 76 | - | 6-06-0 |
Rd | Opp. | Opp. R | W-L | Score |
---|---|---|---|---|
Final | G. SabatiniSabatini (5) | 4 | - | 6-33-66-1 |
Semi | C. EvertEvert (3) | 3 | W | WALKOVER |
Quarter | K. MaleevaMaleeva (14) | 15 | - | 6-36-0 |
R16 | P. FendickFendick | 22 | - | 6-46-2 |
R32 | N. HerremanHerreman | 119 | - | 6-06-1 |
R64 | M. BollegrafBollegraf | 92 | - | 6-16-0 |
R128 | E. MinterMinter | 95 | - | 6-16-1 |
Rd | Opp. | Opp. R | W-L | Score |
---|---|---|---|---|
Final | G. SabatiniSabatini (3) | - | - | 6-36-3 |
Semi | Z. GarrisonGarrison (8) | - | - | 6-26-0 |
Quarter | L. NeilandNeiland (11) | - | - | 6-24-66-3 |
R16 | C. SuireSuire | - | - | 6-36-0 |
R32 | L. MeskhiMeskhi | - | - | 7-56-1 |
R64 | - | - | - | BYE |
Yeah, and the 100m is still a record as well for the women. But we know there were artificial reasons.A bloody extraordinary season.
72-3 W/L record. Think this was the year of the famous 35-minute RG final as well
On a side note, the Seoul Olympics was also where the women's 200m world record was set - and still stands to this day. A ridiculous time that no one has really got that close to
Sorry but when you look at the matches there’s nothing impressive. She basically only had Sabatini who is hardly amazing, and then an old Navratilova and old Evert, both past their primes. The tour was a joke, she took advantage between the end of Navratilova/Evert era and before the Seles era.
AUSTRALIAN OPEN AUSTRALIAN OPEN
AUSTRALIA Jan 11-Jan 24, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $711,450
Surface Hard
Draw 128M/64D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final C. EvertEvert (3) 3 - 6-17-63 Semi C. Kohde-KilschKohde-Kilsch (8) 10 - 6-26-3 Quarter H. MandlikovaMandlikova (5) 5 - 6-26-2 R16 C. LindqvistLindqvist (13) 16 - 6-07-5 R32 C. MacgregorMacgregor 131 - 6-16-2 R64 J. ThompsonThompson 99 - 6-06-1 R128 A. JonssonJonsson 178 - 6-36-1
ROLAND GARROS ROLAND GARROS
FRANCE May 23-Jun 5, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $1,488,000
Surface Clay
Draw 128M/64D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final N. ZverevaZvereva (13) 15 - 6-06-0 Semi G. SabatiniSabatini (4) 5 - 6-37-63 Quarter B. Fulco-VilellaFulco-Vilella 37 - 6-06-1 R16 N. TauziatTauziat 29 - 6-16-3 R32 S. Sloane-LundySloane-Lundy 106 - 6-06-1 R64 R. ReisReis 185 - 6-16-0 R128 N. GuerreeGuerree 224 - 6-06-4
WIMBLEDON WIMBLEDON
GREAT BRITAIN Jun 20-Jul 3, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $1,717,085
Surface Grass
Draw 128M/64D
US OPEN US OPEN
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final M. NavratilovaNavratilova (2) 2 - 5-76-26-1 Semi P. ShriverShriver (3) 4 - 6-16-2 Quarter P. Paradis-MangonParadis-Mangon 36 - 6-36-1 R16 M. FernandezFernandez (16) 12 - 6-26-2 R32 T. PhelpsPhelps 71 - 6-36-1 R64 K. Quentrec EagleQuentrec Eagle 168 - 6-26-0 R128 H. NaNa 76 - 6-06-0
USA, NY Aug 29-Sep 11, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $1,937,333
Surface Hard
Draw 128M/64D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final G. SabatiniSabatini (5) 4 - 6-33-66-1 Semi C. EvertEvert (3) 3 W WALKOVER Quarter K. MaleevaMaleeva (14) 15 - 6-36-0 R16 P. FendickFendick 22 - 6-46-2 R32 N. HerremanHerreman 119 - 6-06-1 R64 M. BollegrafBollegraf 92 - 6-16-0 R128 E. MinterMinter 95 - 6-16-1
OLYMPIC GAMES
SEOUL, KOREA Sep 19-Oct 2, 1988
Level ITF
Surface Hard
Draw 64M/16D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final G. SabatiniSabatini (3) - - 6-36-3 Semi Z. GarrisonGarrison (8) - - 6-26-0 Quarter L. NeilandNeiland (11) - - 6-24-66-3 R16 C. SuireSuire - - 6-36-0 R32 L. MeskhiMeskhi - - 7-56-1 R64 - - - BYE
Sorry but when you look at the matches there’s nothing impressive. She basically only had Sabatini who is hardly amazing, and then an old Navratilova and old Evert, both past their primes. The tour was a joke, she took advantage between the end of Navratilova/Evert era and before the Seles era.
AUSTRALIAN OPEN AUSTRALIAN OPEN
AUSTRALIA Jan 11-Jan 24, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $711,450
Surface Hard
Draw 128M/64D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final C. EvertEvert (3) 3 - 6-17-63 Semi C. Kohde-KilschKohde-Kilsch (8) 10 - 6-26-3 Quarter H. MandlikovaMandlikova (5) 5 - 6-26-2 R16 C. LindqvistLindqvist (13) 16 - 6-07-5 R32 C. MacgregorMacgregor 131 - 6-16-2 R64 J. ThompsonThompson 99 - 6-06-1 R128 A. JonssonJonsson 178 - 6-36-1
ROLAND GARROS ROLAND GARROS
FRANCE May 23-Jun 5, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $1,488,000
Surface Clay
Draw 128M/64D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final N. ZverevaZvereva (13) 15 - 6-06-0 Semi G. SabatiniSabatini (4) 5 - 6-37-63 Quarter B. Fulco-VilellaFulco-Vilella 37 - 6-06-1 R16 N. TauziatTauziat 29 - 6-16-3 R32 S. Sloane-LundySloane-Lundy 106 - 6-06-1 R64 R. ReisReis 185 - 6-16-0 R128 N. GuerreeGuerree 224 - 6-06-4
WIMBLEDON WIMBLEDON
GREAT BRITAIN Jun 20-Jul 3, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $1,717,085
Surface Grass
Draw 128M/64D
US OPEN US OPEN
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final M. NavratilovaNavratilova (2) 2 - 5-76-26-1 Semi P. ShriverShriver (3) 4 - 6-16-2 Quarter P. Paradis-MangonParadis-Mangon 36 - 6-36-1 R16 M. FernandezFernandez (16) 12 - 6-26-2 R32 T. PhelpsPhelps 71 - 6-36-1 R64 K. Quentrec EagleQuentrec Eagle 168 - 6-26-0 R128 H. NaNa 76 - 6-06-0
USA, NY Aug 29-Sep 11, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $1,937,333
Surface Hard
Draw 128M/64D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final G. SabatiniSabatini (5) 4 - 6-33-66-1 Semi C. EvertEvert (3) 3 W WALKOVER Quarter K. MaleevaMaleeva (14) 15 - 6-36-0 R16 P. FendickFendick 22 - 6-46-2 R32 N. HerremanHerreman 119 - 6-06-1 R64 M. BollegrafBollegraf 92 - 6-16-0 R128 E. MinterMinter 95 - 6-16-1
OLYMPIC GAMES
SEOUL, KOREA Sep 19-Oct 2, 1988
Level ITF
Surface Hard
Draw 64M/16D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final G. SabatiniSabatini (3) - - 6-36-3 Semi Z. GarrisonGarrison (8) - - 6-26-0 Quarter L. NeilandNeiland (11) - - 6-24-66-3 R16 C. SuireSuire - - 6-36-0 R32 L. MeskhiMeskhi - - 7-56-1 R64 - - - BYE
For me Steffi is GOAT.
Fraulein Forehand!
The only person in history to achieve the calendar year slam on three different surfaces
Graf won the first 3 meetings with Seles in 1989 when Seles was a 15 year old player starting out and Graf was #1. Then starting in 1990 Seles became a top player, started winning title after title and led their rivalry between 1990-1993 with 4-3 overall including most importantly 3-1 in slam finals.
She also had won the last 3 AO, the last 3 RG, the last 2 USO, the last 3 YECs. As for Wimbledon she reached the final in only her 3rd try (which is the same amount of tries it took Graf to become a finalist). Monica won 7 of the last 8 slams she entered including a 55-1 record in slams during that time. Then a Graf fanatic was tired of seeing his player as the 2nd best and stopped Seles.
Sorry but Steffi Graf will never be the GOAT, not even close. We will never know with Seles, but we do know that Serena Williams still managed to surpass Steffi despite Steffi's inflated record and that's enough proof. I'm not saying that Graf isn't an all-time great but she's nowhere near the GOAT status and she's nowhere near Serena Williams.
Plenty of WTA seasons (and pretty much every single one for the last 10 years) no better than 88 anyways.waaah waaah waaah. As Lendl said, he doesn't care if it were against old grandmas barely able to walk, the point is NO ONE has EVER achieved such a season playing anyone in their way, and to this day no one has even EVER achieved a CYGS on 3 distinct surfaces let alone a GCYGS.
88 Navratilova was only as declined as 11 Fed. Evert and Sabatini were certainly no worse than wet noodle Ralph and Murray in 2011. Yet....Graf may have done it in a less competitive era, but it was still competitive. Evert, Navratilova and Sabatini were no slouches. Also, if everything was so uncompetitive, why weren't other women doing this before Graf (excluding Olympics of course)? Winning all four slams in one season has only been achieved by Court on the women's side. Navratilova did win six in a row, but never in the same year. The pressure is huge. Graf was so relieved to do this.
88 Navratilova was only as declined as 11 Fed. Evert and Sabatini were certainly no worse than wet noodle Ralph and Murray in 2011. Yet....
88 Navratilova was only as declined as 11 Fed. Evert and Sabatini were certainly no worse than wet noodle Ralph and Murray in 2011. Yet....
Perhaps he meant that it was all in the same year?
Navratilova lost in the 4th round of RG in 1983. She must have sucked that year too, don't really remember her doing anything extraordinary there.Nav lost in the 4th round at RG. I couldn't see 2011 Federer losing in the 4th round of a Slam and he almost the SF of all 4 Slams if not for a freak, out of the world performance from Tsonga in the quarters at W.
Navratilova lost in the 4th round of RG in 1983. She must have sucked that year too, don't really remember her doing anything extraordinary there.
Cannot agree. Seles had a period where she was better but after Graf thrashed her at Wimbledon i think things would have turned round in Grafs favour as Graf by then had worked seles out although maybe not on clayseles was better but they removed her from grafs way.
Sorry but when you look at the matches there’s nothing impressive. She basically only had Sabatini who is hardly amazing, and then an old Navratilova and old Evert, both past their primes. The tour was a joke, she took advantage between the end of Navratilova/Evert era and before the Seles era.
AUSTRALIAN OPEN AUSTRALIAN OPEN
AUSTRALIA Jan 11-Jan 24, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $711,450
Surface Hard
Draw 128M/64D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final C. EvertEvert (3) 3 - 6-17-63 Semi C. Kohde-KilschKohde-Kilsch (8) 10 - 6-26-3 Quarter H. MandlikovaMandlikova (5) 5 - 6-26-2 R16 C. LindqvistLindqvist (13) 16 - 6-07-5 R32 C. MacgregorMacgregor 131 - 6-16-2 R64 J. ThompsonThompson 99 - 6-06-1 R128 A. JonssonJonsson 178 - 6-36-1
ROLAND GARROS ROLAND GARROS
FRANCE May 23-Jun 5, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $1,488,000
Surface Clay
Draw 128M/64D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final N. ZverevaZvereva (13) 15 - 6-06-0 Semi G. SabatiniSabatini (4) 5 - 6-37-63 Quarter B. Fulco-VilellaFulco-Vilella 37 - 6-06-1 R16 N. TauziatTauziat 29 - 6-16-3 R32 S. Sloane-LundySloane-Lundy 106 - 6-06-1 R64 R. ReisReis 185 - 6-16-0 R128 N. GuerreeGuerree 224 - 6-06-4
WIMBLEDON WIMBLEDON
GREAT BRITAIN Jun 20-Jul 3, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $1,717,085
Surface Grass
Draw 128M/64D
US OPEN US OPEN
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final M. NavratilovaNavratilova (2) 2 - 5-76-26-1 Semi P. ShriverShriver (3) 4 - 6-16-2 Quarter P. Paradis-MangonParadis-Mangon 36 - 6-36-1 R16 M. FernandezFernandez (16) 12 - 6-26-2 R32 T. PhelpsPhelps 71 - 6-36-1 R64 K. Quentrec EagleQuentrec Eagle 168 - 6-26-0 R128 H. NaNa 76 - 6-06-0
USA, NY Aug 29-Sep 11, 1988
Level Grand Slam
Prize Money $1,937,333
Surface Hard
Draw 128M/64D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final G. SabatiniSabatini (5) 4 - 6-33-66-1 Semi C. EvertEvert (3) 3 W WALKOVER Quarter K. MaleevaMaleeva (14) 15 - 6-36-0 R16 P. FendickFendick 22 - 6-46-2 R32 N. HerremanHerreman 119 - 6-06-1 R64 M. BollegrafBollegraf 92 - 6-16-0 R128 E. MinterMinter 95 - 6-16-1
OLYMPIC GAMES
SEOUL, KOREA Sep 19-Oct 2, 1988
Level ITF
Surface Hard
Draw 64M/16D
Rd Opp. Opp. R W-L Score Final G. SabatiniSabatini (3) - - 6-36-3 Semi Z. GarrisonGarrison (8) - - 6-26-0 Quarter L. NeilandNeiland (11) - - 6-24-66-3 R16 C. SuireSuire - - 6-36-0 R32 L. MeskhiMeskhi - - 7-56-1 R64 - - - BYE
Ya think? (Said with maximum sarcasm).calendar year. huge difference.
Serena could never
wet noodle Ralph
Graf won the first 3 meetings with Seles in 1989 when Seles was a 15 year old player starting out and Graf was #1. Then starting in 1990 Seles became a top player, started winning title after title and led their rivalry between 1990-1993 with 4-3 overall including most importantly 3-1 in slam finals.
She also had won the last 3 AO, the last 3 RG, the last 2 USO, the last 3 YECs. As for Wimbledon she reached the final in only her 3rd try (which is the same amount of tries it took Graf to become a finalist). Monica won 7 of the last 8 slams she entered including a 55-1 record in slams during that time. Then a Graf fanatic was tired of seeing his player as the 2nd best and stopped Seles.
Sorry but Steffi Graf will never be the GOAT, not even close. We will never know with Seles, but we do know that Serena Williams still managed to surpass Steffi despite Steffi's inflated record and that's enough proof. I'm not saying that Graf isn't an all-time great but she's nowhere near the GOAT status and she's nowhere near Serena Williams.
the fact is that graf took 8 slams before seles came with her first RG1990 and until AO1993 she only took 2 slams (seles did not play on one). during the same time seles took 8 slams. and then seles was stabbed by a German steffis fan. after that graf took 11 slams. so it is clear who was better and by what methods she was stopped. their vimbl match had nothing to do with it. the knife in the back, on the other hand, had everything to do with it!Cannot agree. Seles had a period where she was better but after Graf thrashed her at Wimbledon i think things would have turned round in Grafs favour as Graf by then had worked seles out although maybe not on clay
Cannot agree. Seles had a period where she was better but after Graf thrashed her at Wimbledon i think things would have turned round in Grafs favour as Graf by then had worked seles out although maybe not on clay
Yes, tougher competition.
She did hold all 4 and the Olympic gold though, just not in a calendar year.
Huh? Most if not all her (die-hard) fans believe that she is a goat candidate.That is why even her die-hard fan don't believe Serena is a GOAT candidate.
You haven't read enough on this board. One of Serena die-hard fan say she can't be a GOAT because she never won the Grand Slam, the zenith of achievement. Serena can only be the best in her era.Huh? Most if not all her (die-hard) fans believe that she is a goat candidate.
That particular poster is cringe anyway.You haven't read enough on this board. One of Serena die-hard fan say she can't be a GOAT because she never won the Grand Slam, the zenith of achievement. Serena can only be the best in her era.