The way Federer watches the ball onto the stringbed...

[PrinceMoron]

I have seen the photos of Soderling looking at the sky when he hits a forehand.

Seen the shots of Federer chin on shoulder looking thru the stringbed.

Might make you smoother maybe, but then Federer can shank like the best of them. So what is this email all about?

"Hi Everyone.

I am enlisting all revolutionary tennis readers for assistance, if you can.

I am looking for an agent contact, anyone know either Mr. Scott Waxman of Waxman Literary Agency in New York City, or Mr. Tony Godsick formerly of IMG worldwide? Or their assistants or associates? I have finished a groundbreaking book on how to see the tennis ball all the way into the string bed just like Roger Federer does it and am ready to get it out there for everyone to use and rock the tennis world. Mr. Waxman is the literary agent, Mr. Godsick is Federer’s agent. And I am in Los Angeles, btw. Thanks!

Mark Papas
revolutionarytennis.com"

No, I have no connection with M Papas other than I may have browsed his website. Don't remember giving out my email address either.

 

[10is]

Old news. He call's it the Federer Vision Technique. I can sort of attest to its efficacy, but only in practice since you have make a very conscious effort to incorporate it into your technique, which you don't have the luxury of in the heat of a competitive match (unless you make it an entrenched part of your reportoire through hours upon hours of practice):

http://www.revolutionarytennis.com/federervisiontechnique.html

 

[Federererer]

Not many other players use a 90 sq in racket on tour these days. Hence the shanks.

 

[10is]

Extreme racquet speed + taking the ball early + 90 sq in racquet head + gradual loss of hand-eye coordination & foot-speed vis-a-vis the aging process --> frequency of shanks

He hardly used to shank the ball during his prime.

 

[6-2/6-4/6-0]

I bet Fed would be fine if Wilson adopted Volkl's OptiSpot "technology"...:neutral::evil:

OK, maybe not...

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Take a close look at Nadal. He adopted a variation of the Federer gaze technique some years back. I noticed it when he rose to #1. It works quite well for him with the larger racquet head size (100 sq").

 

[SwankPeRFection]

Not many other players use a 90 sq in racket on tour these days. Hence the shanks.

Ya, cuz we never see Novak shank with his 100 or any of the girls do it with their monster sized Yonexs.

 

[PrinceMoron]

Old news. He call's it the Federer Vision Technique. I can sort of attest to its efficacy, but only in practice since you have make a very conscious effort to incorporate it into your technique, which you don't have the luxury of in the heat of a competitive match (unless you make it an entrenched part of your reportoire through hours upon hours of practice):

http://www.revolutionarytennis.com/federervisiontechnique.html

OK thanks for that, guess there is a book coming out sometime.

 

[nadal_slam_king]

Doesn't seem to work for Federer. His unforced error rate is pathetic. And he can't win 3 out of 5 sets these days, vs the 2 elite baseliners. His gaze is not adequate.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

^ No, your hyperbole is pathetic. The gaze technique works quite well. Look at Federer in his prime. The gaze technique worked so well that Nadal and others adopted it. There are a number of reasons why Roger mishits more than he did a few years ago. (These have already been mentioned above).

 

[nadal_slam_king]

^ No, your hyperbole is pathetic. The gaze technique works quite well. Look at Federer in his prime. The gaze technique worked so well that Nadal and others adopted it. There are a number of reasons why Roger mishits more than he did a few years ago. (These have already been mentioned above).

Federer is in his prime, according to his own words, he's playing better than ever. The 26 match winning streak from 2011-2012 and another hot streak supports his statement too. The only thing that has gone wrong for Federer this year is Nadjokovic at the slams. His game was good enough vs less than great opponents like Roddick and Hewitt, and the inconsistent Safin and aging Agassi. But vs the elite, in best-of-5, no good.

 

[Fedex]

Basic text book stuff to keep your eyes glued to the ball right up to and slightly after impact.
Federer is text book and I'm surprised most other top players don't do this.
It definitely made a difference for me but that's just my experience. And I'm certainly no pro.
Murray and Djokovic don't glue their eyes to the ball and they're amongst the very best but, personally speaking, I would always advise the conventional approach.

 

[zacinnc78]

Federer is in his prime, according to his own words, he's playing better than ever. The 26 match winning streak from 2011-2012 and another hot streak supports his statement too. The only thing that has gone wrong for Federer this year is Nadjokovic at the slams. His game was good enough vs less than great opponents like Roddick and Hewitt, and the inconsistent Safin and aging Agassi. But vs the elite, in best-of-5, no good.

yea ,cause hes never beat those guys at slams.....moron

 

[nadal_slam_king]

yea ,cause hes never beat those guys at slams.....moron

Well I thought Federer could beat Djokovic 2.0 at RG, but this year's RG wasn't even close. And Federer has never beaten prime Nadal (2008-?) at a slam.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Basic text book stuff to keep your eyes glued to the ball right up to and slightly after impact.
Federer is text book and I'm surprised most other top players don't do this...

Not textbook at all. Roger's eyes are glued to the contact point/area, not the ball, for (nearly) all of his forward swing. His eyes get to the CP slightly before the ball does. His head remains still and his gaze stays on the CP until his follow-thru is nearly complete. Rafa has adopted a very similar gaze sequence.

Many other pros keep the head still for much of their forward swing. Not all of them focus on the CP the way that Roger does. And many/most do not fix their gaze quite as long as Roger & Rafa.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Doesn't seem to work for Federer. His unforced error rate is pathetic. And he can't win 3 out of 5 sets these days, vs the 2 elite baseliners. His gaze is not adequate.

It appears that you are more interested in bashing/discrediting Federer rather than contributing to the subject at hand. If you have not earnestly tried the gaze techniques employed by Roger and Rafa, don't knock it. Many have found it to be quite useful. I emphasize quiet eyes and keeping the head still with my students. It works very well for them.

 

[PrinceMoron]

Someone told me never look up until you hear your opponent hit the ball. Understand the logic, ie we tend to look up too soon, but not sure of the practicality. Fun to try though.

 

[SLD76]

Federer is in his prime, according to his own words, he's playing better than ever. The 26 match winning streak from 2011-2012 and another hot streak supports his statement too. The only thing that has gone wrong for Federer this year is Nadjokovic at the slams. His game was good enough vs less than great opponents like Roddick and Hewitt, and the inconsistent Safin and aging Agassi. But vs the elite, in best-of-5, no good.

Please stop.

dont u have a business to oversee?

For a so called "business owner" you are sure here alot..,like, everyday...all day.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

Someone told me never look up until you hear your opponent hit the ball. Understand the logic, ie we tend to look up too soon, but not sure of the practicality. Fun to try though.

That's crazy talk -- way too extreme. If you look up as you are finishing your follow-thru you should still be able to see the ball cross the net much of the time. If your opponent is at the net, you will probably want to look up a split second earlier.


You should definitely be able to see your ball bounce on the other side. When, where and how it bounces provides some valuable info as to might your opponent's options might be. Seeing your opponent just prior to his contact also yields valuable info.

 

[PrinceMoron]

That's crazy talk -- way too extreme. If you look up as you are finishing your follow-thru you should still be able to see the ball cross the net much of the time. If your opponent is at the net, you will probably want to look up a split second earlier.


You should definitely be able to see your ball bounce on the other side. When, where and how it bounces provides some valuable info as to might your opponent's options might be. Seeing your opponent just prior to his contact also yields valuable info.

You obviously have never tried waiting to volley facing the wrong way.

 

[SystemicAnomaly]

^ Are you talking about a volley reflex/reaction time drill? Could be a good drill but what does it have to do with the gaze technique? But, yes, the gaze technique could be used for the volley itself.

 

[PrinceMoron]

^ Are you talking about a volley reflex/reaction time drill? Could be a good drill but what does it have to do with the gaze technique? But, yes, the gaze technique could be used for the volley itself.

It was the time available being much greater than one supposes. Sure, some people don't watch the ball onto the string bed for all kinds of reasons, not that I am saying one needs to or one's brain processes / sees more than two or three snapshots of the flight of the ball. But there some people who feel they have to look up to see where the ball is going. Not looking up until one hears one's opponent hitting the ball is just a tool to show people that they can keep the head still for a surprisingly long time before one has to do anything again. The time elapsed actually seems like an eternity.

If you see your ball hit the net I think you are looking up to soon.

And yes it was the volley reflex drill, but used to show that one has a lot more time than one thinks.