Ugh ... 4.0 playing a 2.5

lagniappe12

New User
So I have a K-Swiss match this evening and I'm not sure what to think. I (foolishly) went online to check the history of my opponent and come to find out she's been playing tennis almost non-stop for 10 years! She started off at an ALTA A3 level, which is roughly equivalent to a 4.0.... Currently, she has been playing at roughly a 3.5 the past 3-5 years. This appears to be her first K-Swiss season.

I'm a solid 2.5. I make no excuses about it, I'm a beginner, but I've been working hard to improve and I find myself very nervous for this match. I will try my best but I hate thinking that the outcome is already determined...

Ugh.
 

grimmbomb21

Professional
So I have a K-Swiss match this evening and I'm not sure what to think. I (foolishly) went online to check the history of my opponent and come to find out she's been playing tennis almost non-stop for 10 years! She started off at an ALTA A3 level, which is roughly equivalent to a 4.0.... Currently, she has been playing at roughly a 3.5 the past 3-5 years. This appears to be her first K-Swiss season.

I'm a solid 2.5. I make no excuses about it, I'm a beginner, but I've been working hard to improve and I find myself very nervous for this match. I will try my best but I hate thinking that the outcome is already determined...

Ugh.

Don't worry about it. Being a heavy underdog is the least stressful role to play. If your opponent is as good as you think, you should forget the scores and focus on playing your game. Playing a sandbagger isn't much fun, but you will improve faster playing better opponents. That much I know from experience. Have fun!!:)
 

Zefer

Rookie
You probably WON'T win, but being such an underdog allows you to just get on with playing; go in hard, you have nothing to loose.
Come into the net, vary your game, mix it up! Think of it as a learning experience.
 

beernutz

Hall of Fame
Count your lucky stars. I find it hard to find better players who want to play. Just use the match as a learning experience.
 

wangtan83

New User
Maybe 10 years ago she was 52, now she's 62 and keep losing at 3.5 & 3.0. So she gets downgraded to 2.5. I don't see what's wrong with that.

I played in K-swiss league as well. Their ratings don't really follow NTRP.
 

Bud

Bionic Poster
I'm a 4.0-4.5 and usually get only a few games playing true Open players (5.0's and higher).

We often have to play those who are better than us in tennis.

Just enjoy the match and concentrate on getting the ball over the net and in between the lines on each and every point. Make your opponent work for the win.
 

Ronaldo

Bionic Poster
So I have a K-Swiss match this evening and I'm not sure what to think. I (foolishly) went online to check the history of my opponent and come to find out she's been playing tennis almost non-stop for 10 years! She started off at an ALTA A3 level, which is roughly equivalent to a 4.0.... Currently, she has been playing at roughly a 3.5 the past 3-5 years. This appears to be her first K-Swiss season.

I'm a solid 2.5. I make no excuses about it, I'm a beginner, but I've been working hard to improve and I find myself very nervous for this match. I will try my best but I hate thinking that the outcome is already determined...

Ugh.

My mxd dubs partner from Detroit, Latta Leadpipe handicaps our matches like Tonya Harding in the Joe back in 1994. Leadpipe cinch and the outcome is really cinched in the warm-up.
 

lagniappe12

New User
So, I played my match and lost, no surprise there. 6-0, 6-1. Ouch. I took y'alls advice and tried to really swing away and go all out. Despite the score, I think I did okay. We had a lot of 30-40 and a handful of deuce games, hardly any 40-15 or 40-0 so I was happy about that. We had several long points 10-12 shots back and forth and frankly those were invigorating. I console myself with the thought that I made her work for those points.

I definitely see some of the skills that players at her level have that players at my level lack. Primarily, they have confidence in their strokes. They are long past the "omigod, just get the ball over the net" phase and focus more on placement and strategy. This is just the tip of the iceberg for me. I also thought I was a decent volleyer, but yeah, not so much. Consistency was an issue as well.

All in all, I didn't walk away disappointed, I think I did some things well. My serves were good (only 1 DF), my backhands were good so I'm happy about that. I need to work on not crowding the ball. I was worried about not getting to balls that I often overran them so was often jammed up.

The lady was perfectly pleasant and fun to play with. She commented that this was her first K-Swiss season and based her ranking on a friend of hers who played K-Swiss before and the fact that she knew she couldn't beat that friend. She obviously realized that she was under-ranked, I think she felt bad about it.
 

dlk

Hall of Fame
Good job. Thanks for the story & update. We've all lost 0 & 1, I lost couple months back by that score & it only improved my game, as I went from 4.5 opponent to 3.5, I felt like I'd improved ten-fold. Keep it up:)
 

Sublime

Semi-Pro
K-Swiss is a weird league. Their rules for moving up and down and setting their levels seem logical, but I think the problem stems from them having a cash prize. I've seen a lot of ringers in that league and they weren't like this lady who did the right thing and won the match the best she could. They knew the rules for being moved up and playoff eligibility and they threw games to keep their winning % were it needed to be. I actually had a guy tell me during warm-ups about how he had to let one of his opponents win X number of games and how hard it was to make it look believe able.

The problem exacerbates itself then, because based on the rules, you pretty much need to go undefeated or really dominate most of your matches to afford a loss and still move up. Throw one ringer in a division and people that should move up, don't. Which means in the next season, those people essentially become ringers playing a half level below their ability. I played a guy who made the playoffs in another league at an entire level higher, but was unable to move up in two seasons in K-Swiss.

The OP is going to see the effects of having this lady in her division next season. When players that should move up to -3.0 this season don't because of the bad loss they took from this player and are playing 2.5 again.
 

rudester

Professional
I can tell by your assessment of the match that the experience will help your game, you seem to have picked up insight on what you need to do to improve your game. This is what these matches are for. You are already doing a lot of thinking about what you can put to use next time from the experience. good job.
 

PrinceMoron

Legend
Hopefully there is one shot at least you are partially on the way to owning, and I would go with that as much as you can. I would not recommend trying to mix it up and vary your shots unless you want a very frustrating evening.

One day you are going to have a full repetoire of shots you can hit consistently, with depth and accuracy, but until then you need to do the boring bit of hitting a shot over and over until it is not going to be a source of errors.

Sounds like you are not going to outhit or hit winners against this player. I would choose a spot to serve to and just go for that all evening. Choose a spot for service return and do the same. You can even hit groundies all evening to the same spot.

Ok, your opponent will know what you are going to do, but s/he will have to make all the play, and you can just concentrate on doing your thing. When you have those shots grooved in matchplay conditions, then add a few more and then a few more. Before long you will be in possession of a Federer like range of shots.....

Make a note of a few things to do and read it at change overs.

A few ideas:

Breathe from the stomach - no point in being in a state of panic.
Breathe out slowly and purposefully during the stroke.
Turn your shoulders, yes right round till you think they won't go any further.
Keep your head down until long after contact
Bend your knees - just enough so that your feet disappear.
Take your racket back as soon as your opponent hits the ball, NOT when it bounces on your side of the court. (If you want to be very technical about it, take it back parallel to the baseline when you are moving to the ball and then all the way back as far as a your arm with a slight bend will allow you so you still have some fluidity. I am not a great believer in taking the racket so far back that you opponent can see the face of the racket unless you have God given talents).

Take the ball early in the proper sense - hit the ball well in front of you, short backswing, long followthrough. If your opponent has such classy strokes, just make use of all the work they are doing and minimise your effort.

Make your opponent beat you, don't beat yourself by making unforced errors. Do what you are confident of doing and don't try for things you don't own. If your opponent hits you off the court and your best makes no impression on them, that is why they are better than you. But you will have got just that little bit further down the road to being the player you want to be.

And there will be a moment in the match where your opponent's level dips a little, hopefully to below your rocksteady grooved play. Just a matter of waiting. It will come, often at the most surprising times like when they are serving for the match.

When I have a choice of going for a screaming winner but go for the percentage shot that my opponents chews up I feel good knowing I chose the right shot, and don't get frustated being beaten by a better player.
 
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