USO greats by top ten and top five wins

[Justice Underworld]

Top Ten
1. Lendl > 18
2. Sampras > 16
3. Federer > 16
4. McEnroe > 15
4. Connors > 15
6. Agassi > 13
7. Djokovic > 12
8. Borg > 8
8. Wawrinka > 8
10. Nadal > 7


Top Five
1. Connors > 9
1. Sampras > 9
1. Federer > 9
4. McEnroe > 8
4. Lendl > 8
6. Agassi > 7
7. Djokovic > 6
8. Borg > 5
8. Wawrinka > 5
10. Kodes | Tanner | Edberg | Nadal | Del Potro | Nishikori | > 4


There's something off with this picture. Can anybody spot what that is?

 

[MichaelNadal]

Yes, how irrelevant it is when winning titles

 

[Justice Underworld]

Yes, how irrelevant it is when winning titles

Irrelevant for only one person on the list it seems.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Irrelevant for only one person on the list it seems.

The pain of those 20 slams stupid pirate was supposed to be on crutches by 2013 at the latest

 

[Justice Underworld]

The pain of those 20 slams

There's no pain for me because I don't have a rat in this race. I am just so tired of Nadal being overrated at the USO like he is better than all these great champions in the past. He isn't.

 

[MichaelNadal]

There's no pain for me because I don't have a rat in this race. I am just so tired of Nadal being overrated at the USO like he is better than all these great champions in the past. He isn't.

How sad for you that that literally doesn't matter outside of a forum on the internet then I assume your brain is funtioning..... if it is, then you know as well as I do it's a wrap when Nadal wins the 2021 FO.

 

[Deleted member 748597]

Why are you being such a fanboy? @MichaelNadal

 

[MichaelNadal]

Why are you being such a fanboy? @MichaelNadal

Nadal has worked his ass off for what he's acheived, I saw it from the beginning..... there are SOME days where I won't stand for the nonsense, this is one of them

 

[Deleted member 748597]

Nadal has worked his ass off for what he's acheived, I saw it from the beginning..... there are SOME days where I won't stand for the nonsense, this is one of them

Yes, he deserves to be top 5 all time.

 

[Justice Underworld]

How sad for you that that literally doesn't matter outside of a forum on the internet then I assume your brain is funtioning..... if it is, then you know as well as I do it's a wrap when Nadal wins the 2021 FO.

I'm not talking about the French Open. Can we stay on topic? Why should someone who can't beat Federer and Djokovic for years on hardcourt get overrated to this extent? It's annoying.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Yes, he deserves to be top 5 all time.

How did 2020 go for your boy? yall STILL chasing? After 15 years?

 

[Deleted member 748597]

How did 2020 go for your boy? yall still chasing?

I am pleased with 8 AOs, 6 YE #1 and 300+ weeks at #1.

 

[MichaelNadal]

I am pleased with 8 AOs, 6 YE #1 and 300+ weeks at #1.

I hope you are, bc he's not passing Nadal

 

[Deleted member 748597]

I hope you are, bc he's not passing Nadal

I think that he doesn't really have to pass his Slam count. There are always going to be arguments between these two.

 

[BackhandDTL]

Lew?

 

[tonylg]

There's something off with this picture. Can anybody spot what that is?

Borg can't be considered a uso atg because despite beating many top players there (unlike someone else), he never won a uso.

 

[MichaelNadal]

I think that he doesn't really have to pass his Slam count. There are always going to be arguments between these two.

Djokovic needs to be one slam behind for those "arguments" to be a conversation. I have no problems with Djokovic being better than Nadal a slam behind tbh. (he would have well earned it). 2 or more though? Lo siento. Especially after that bagel when he haden't lost a match all year.

 

[USO]

Top Ten
1. Lendl > 18
2. Sampras > 16
3. Federer > 16
4. McEnroe > 15
4. Connors > 15
6. Agassi > 13
7. Djokovic > 12
8. Borg > 8
8. Wawrinka > 8
10. Nadal > 7


Top Five
1. Connors > 9
1. Sampras > 9
1. Federer > 9
4. McEnroe > 8
4. Lendl > 8
6. Agassi > 7
7. Djokovic > 6
8. Borg > 5
8. Wawrinka > 5
10. Kodes | Tanner | Edberg | Nadal | Del Potro | Nishikori | > 4


There's something off with this picture. Can anybody spot what that is?

The USO is the biggest hardcourt tournament and the conclusion is that Djokovic is nowhere near being the Hardcourt GOAT.

 

[Justice Underworld]

The USO is the biggest hardcourt tournament and the conclusion is that Djokovic is nowhere near being the Hardcourt GOAT.

Don't Federer and Djokovic have the most hardcourt Grand Slams? What a stupid post.

 

[Justice Underworld]

Borg can't be considered a uso atg because despite beating many top players there (unlike someone else), he never won a uso.

You're right but I wanted to prove a point.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Again, AO != USO. You guys always like to make the distinction between indoor and outdoor HC, but don't even better to make the distinction for different types of outdoor HC.

Fed at the USO > Fed at the AO.

And besides, not like Fed got many chances to beat Nadal in BO5 outdoor HC.

Don't Federer and Djokovic have the most hardcourt Grand Slams? What a stupid post.

TTW-ology: NEVER LUMP the USO and AO together!!! They are different tournaments!!!!......... Except when we need to underrate Nadal

 

[Deleted member 748597]

Djokovic needs to be one slam behind for those "arguments" to be a conversation. I have no problems with Djokovic being better than Nadal a slam behind tbh. (he would have well earned it). 2 or more though? Lo siento. Especially after that bagel when he haden't lost a match all year.

Fair enough. It still depends on his final weeks at #1/YE #1 count. Even 2 could be enough in the end.

Anyway, I just want him to reach 20. Your boy can have 25 if he wants to.

 

[Justice Underworld]

TTW-ology: NEVER LUMP the USO and AO together!!! They are different tournaments!!!!......... Except when we need to underrate Nadal

I'm not understanding this. I know English isn't my first language but how does this join with Federer and Djokovic having 11 and Nadal having 5?

 

[MichaelNadal]

I'm not understanding this. I know English isn't my first language but how does join with Federer and Djokovic having 11 and Nadal having 6?

Nadal has more USO's than Djokovic and a winning H2H there, and this thread is about the USO even though you already got worked out and are trying to change the narrative.

 

[tonylg]

Top Five
1. Connors > 9
1. Sampras > 9
1. Federer > 9
4. McEnroe > 8
4. Lendl > 8

You can debate the order, but these 5 really do stand clear as uso goats.

 

[BackhandDTL]

Fair enough. It still depends on his final weeks at #1/YE #1 count. Even 2 could be enough in the end.

Anyway, I just want him to reach 20. Your boy can have 25 if he wants to.

Weeks at #1 from peaking during an era with Nishikori, Raonic, post 2013 Murray, and 35 year old Federer is enough to outweigh slam count and make Novak the GOAT?

ahahah

 

[Justice Underworld]

You can debate the order, but these 5 really do stand clear as uso goats.

That is correct.

 

[alexio]

I'm not understanding this. I know English isn't my first language but how does join with Federer and Djokovic having 11 and Nadal having 6?

nadal having 5

 

[Justice Underworld]

Nadal has more USO's than Djokovic and a winning H2H there, and this thread is about the USO even though you already got worked out and are trying to change the narrative.

Why is Djokovic's name coming up? There are 8 other players on the list besides Nadal and Djokovic, and multiple players with more titles than Djokovic. What is Nadal's record against other USO champions on the lists?

 

[Justice Underworld]

nadal having 5

I'm sorry and I made a mistake.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Why is Djokovic's name coming up? There are 8 other players on the list besides Nadal and Djokovic, and multiple players with more titles than Djokovic. What is Nadal's record against other USO champions on the lists?

They played in the same era? bro go for a jog or something. You have every right to try and pick apart what he's won, but it literally won't matter if he wins another slam..... anywhere. I couldn't imagine having such a time dealing with tennis results, it's a sport, we have no control over it.

 

[alexio]

I'm sorry and I made a mistake.

don't be sorry, it's ok

 

[Justice Underworld]

They played in the same era? bro go for a jog or something.

Didn't Nadal play in the same era as Federer and Del Potro? I think you can use a jog because you seem flustered.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Didn't Nadal play in the same era as Federer and Del Potro? I think you can use a jog because you seem flustered.

Oh, extremely

 

[USO]

Top Ten
1. Lendl > 18
2. Sampras > 16
3. Federer > 16
4. McEnroe > 15
4. Connors > 15
6. Agassi > 13
7. Djokovic > 12
8. Borg > 8
8. Wawrinka > 8
10. Nadal > 7


Top Five
1. Connors > 9
1. Sampras > 9
1. Federer > 9
4. McEnroe > 8
4. Lendl > 8
6. Agassi > 7
7. Djokovic > 6
8. Borg > 5
8. Wawrinka > 5
10. Kodes | Tanner | Edberg | Nadal | Del Potro | Nishikori | > 4


There's something off with this picture. Can anybody spot what that is?

USO Disqualifications

Djokovic > 1
Federer > 0
Nadal > 0
Connors > 0
Sampras > 0
Lendl > 0
McEnroe > 0
Agassi > 0
Borg > 0

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

They played in the same era? bro go for a jog or something. You have every right to try and pick apart what he's won, but it literally won't matter if he wins another slam..... anywhere. I couldn't imagine having such a time dealing with tennis results, it's a sport, we have no control over it.

Deliberately obtuse, aren't you. The results are just numbers, the point is what people think based on them, a lot of stupid things and OP draws attention to one of such things. Not everyone is cocksure like you and other guys who don't really care what others think except to bash.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Borg having more top 5/10 wins at the USO than Nadal is unreal lol. The difference in competition between them when it comes to the US Open is astronomical...

 

[PeoplesChamp]

 

[MichaelNadal]

Deliberately obtuse, aren't you. The results are just numbers, the point is what people think based on them, a lot of stupid things and OP draws attention to one of such things. Not everyone is cocksure like you and other guys who don't really care what others think except to bash.

Depends on what you mean

 

[Justice Underworld]

USO Disqualifications

Djokovic > 1
Federer > 0
Nadal > 0
Connors > 0
Sampras > 0
Lendl > 0
McEnroe > 0
Agassi > 0
Borg > 0

I don't understand. You seem quite interested in Djokovic, and even saying he is nowhere near hardcourt Grand Slam greatest when he tied with the most hardcourt Grand Slams. Were your feelings hurt by Djokovic?

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Nadal has worked his ass off for what he's acheived, I saw it from the beginning..... there are SOME days where I won't stand for the nonsense, this is one of them

Right, and other greats didn't do that.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Right, and other greats didn't do that.

Point me to the threads knocking down what Djokovic and Federer did today and I'll happily defend.

 

[FRV4]

That cake looks like it tastes bad

 

[Deleted member 748597]

This is a good thread. Let's discuss this matter like tennis fans and not the random millionaire fanboys.

 

[PilotPete]

This thread shows that someone's been stealing from Djokovic's weak era cookie jar

 

[ollinger]

There's something off with this picture. Can anybody spot what that is?

Yes, the list compares players who've already completed their careers with players still playing and accumulating those wins, a sign of intellectual bankruptcy.. Utter garbage statistics.

 

[PeoplesChamp]

Yes, the list compares players who've already completed their careers with players still playing and accumulating those wins, a sign of intellectual bankruptcy.. Utter garbage statistics.

You're right. 35 year old Nadal will still have time to break the tie with Nishikori for top 5 wins at USO

 

[PeoplesChamp]

That cake looks like it tastes bad

Clay cake.

 

[octogon]

Yes, the list compares players who've already completed their careers with players still playing and accumulating those wins, a sign of intellectual bankruptcy.. Utter garbage statistics.

We got us a new Lew II! LOL!

 

[The Guru]

Poor Borg