volleying video of a guy
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Spindarella
Rookie
Pretty sweet backhand volley. I could see his forehand volley breaking down though
cam2
Rookie
I don't agree, his wrist never broke and he was confident on the forehand side. The backhand he seemed less confident and the contact point varied more.
Spindarella
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I can confidently hit routine shots with bad form all day. Also, there is more to a good volley than not breaking the wrist. His racquet head position on the fh volley isnt all that great, and he pushes through the ball at times.
I will say though, that it looks like he is just warming up, working on hand eye coordination. But regardless, his forehand volley isn't great. I'm sure it could be effective to an extent. woohoo.
drakulie
Talk Tennis Guru
Uhmm, you should be "pushing" thru volleys. This guy has solid volleys on both wings.
Spindarella
Rookie
yeah i know. but its more than just a push. I mean he just pushes hist racquet through routinely, with no punch, without the racquet ever being above the ball. just a plain push in a straight line with the racquet head to the side.
His volleys are solid in a simple rally situation, but his form is off on the fh volley and if a difficult passing shot was hit at him, unless he has amazing mcenroe hands, his volley would probably sit up pretty high
fluffy Beaver
Professional
got any vids to show us this perfect volley you speak of? that's also better than the guy in the video?
Spindarella
Rookie
I have no tennis videos on my computer. Just watch a video of mcenroe on youtube and look at the position of his racquet head before he volleys.
cam2
Rookie
How many people other than pro's wouldn't volley up a difficult passing shot unless they happen to guess right?
cam2
Rookie
Mcenroe's volley is definitly is NOT the standard for good technique. His proficiency at the net seems to have come from some unbelievable talent.
Solat
Professional
firstly, this guy can play
but i think that his FH volley is also suspect, its heading toward an eastern grip and the racquet moves more then i would encourage,he obviously has talent to boot so can get away with it, not all out there are as lucky. i would rather see him move his body with a solid racquet then let the racquet do all the work. The grip allows him to hit great firm volleys but how could he handle quick balls or dipping balls? i don't know. To me it also looks like he is just practicing and therefore not going fully at it so i believe he probably volleys better then this in match scenario
but i think that his FH volley is also suspect, its heading toward an eastern grip and the racquet moves more then i would encourage,he obviously has talent to boot so can get away with it, not all out there are as lucky. i would rather see him move his body with a solid racquet then let the racquet do all the work. The grip allows him to hit great firm volleys but how could he handle quick balls or dipping balls? i don't know. To me it also looks like he is just practicing and therefore not going fully at it so i believe he probably volleys better then this in match scenario
Andres
G.O.A.T.
He has a nice serve as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1M343f3heg&NR=1
Not a big fan of the form, but I can't argue with results
(the returner was no Agassi, though)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1M343f3heg&NR=1
Not a big fan of the form, but I can't argue with results
(the returner was no Agassi, though
)
Spindarella
Rookie
I'm not suggesting that my volley is better than this guy. In fact, I haven't actually really really worked on my volley in over a year.
I'm saying, technically speaking, his fh volley isnt great. If you think his fh volley is amazing, cool. Do what he does.
I've worked with and spoken with some pretty legitimate people about the forehand volley, including segura, lansdorp, mcenroe sr, and bollettieri(although i dont consider his opinion on the matter too relevent)
Im not just spouting useless information like some people on this board.
I feel like you think im bashing this guys volley and that you think im just full of it. That's cool if you don't care about my opinion. His volleys look, solid, sure. But fundamentally, they arent the strongest. At the same time, I dont think I need to show you videos to prove that better volleys exist. I have no reason to keep volley videos on my computer. You can watch clips of pros on youtube if you really need to see something.
ibringtheHEAT
Semi-Pro
His serves were really good, but the returner definitly wasn't up to par.
Spindarella
Rookie
Well, people who use correct form are less likely to volley up
cam2
Rookie
I agree, but on difficult passing shots?
Spindarella
Rookie
All im saying is i would like to see how that guys volley is when he isnt hitting a routine moderately paced practice shot hit straight to him.
ShooterMcMarco
Hall of Fame
Andres
G.O.A.T.
There's a video of him on match situation (friendly match, but still) from the same user.
The serves put too much pressure on the returner, and he volleys well. Reacts well to the situations.
knasty131
Professional
I agree, most of his backhands in the video were low and he just put them back but if you notice when he got a high one...rather than hitting through it and putting it deep, he hit it more down which let the ball sit up...its a common mistake...so I would hit heavy topspin about head-high to his backhand...but I think either way his backhand would definitely be attacked
sinneTennis
New User
HES A SOUTH PAW (Lefty) WOHOO! inspiration!
SalvadorVeiga
Rookie
One thing I noticed on his volleys... he does the same thing Fed does...he follows the ball all the way to the strings... you can clearly see him hit the ball while his head is still looking at the racquet...still funny to watch though he looks like a kind of robot that way good serve btw
good serve btw
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NebAce1
Guest
Yea and on his FH volley he kind of swings through the volley, which your not really supposed to do, but if it works for him. And as for his serve that may be the wierdist motion I have ever seen.
cam2
Rookie
Finally a real player analyzing in a way that's useful for a match situation. Technique is important but so is confidence and he is much more confident on the forehand volley then the backhand. He attacks the forehand volley and is more passe on the backhand side.
Pro Staff Pete
Semi-Pro
His volley looks like Nadal's.
jasoncho92
Professional
That video is sped upHe has a nice serve as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1M343f3heg&NR=1
Not a big fan of the form, but I can't argue with results
(the returner was no Agassi, though
knasty131
Professional
lol thanks...i know plenty people who dont have perfect form on their volleys but one side is more confident, making that one better...
beernutz
Hall of Fame
What makes you say that? Those serves have some serious pace on them as evidenced by how high they are hitting on that back wall behind the receiver.
ps60
Professional
he's confident volleying, though the incoming balls are not hard. bh side OK, although the balls go up a little bit. on FH, he drives the ball with his hand, not with body. Not sure if it is not so good, but i'd prefer player using their footwork on volley.
And i guess he goes to Ballet school too
And i guess he goes to Ballet school too
goober
Legend
Well here is a vid of his matchplay. His serve looks pretty dang good to me and so does his volley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeQPqeKiSvY
his opponent was 10x worse. could keep the ball in play for more than 2 shots.
he hits the volleys well, but doesn't move his feet at ALL (except for a few backhands)
