What a pain! One handed backhand

Fintft

G.O.A.T.
Ripping it every now and then doesn't count, right? :(
I think it counts, b/c now you know the feeling :)
Ballancing from the shoulder right? Long leavers.

It's just a matter of diagnosing your game( even without a coach) and making it happen again.

There isn't a single day when I don't rip a few 1HBHs CC, otherwise I wouldn't be happy. That's one shot that I don't baby totally, even in practice, be it against lower players.
Rember, the BH needs practcing by most of us, club players, who haven't learned tennis the proper way!

PS
Against weaker players I hit tons of DTL BHs, sending everything to their FH( since they can't hang out in BH exchanges) and that probably also helps the CC BH (that I still hit occasionally).
 
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Curious

G.O.A.T.
Is the rotation/uncoil ruining the proper racket drop and swing path forward? Is keeping completely sideways the solution?
In line with how this guy explains the wrong swing path.


 

Dragy

Legend
In line with how this guy explains the wrong swing path.
This guy is wrong on what is good or bad. Not recommended. He’s using continental grip (and claims more of better one-handers do as well), hence his struggle to rip the ball and that locked restricted swing.

I wouldn’t recommend picking detailed technical information from a guy who is mislead on basic observation level. You need correct info and inputs to then deliver real and practical ideas.

He hit it thousands times and likely can make it work, but it’s far from best OHBHs. But if you want to hit low-rpm conti grip punch BH like him, you can do what he says and stay sideways and so on… I definitely situationally apply sideways arm-driven conti-grip stroke to just get the ball over.
 

socallefty

G.O.A.T.
This guy is wrong on what is good or bad. Not recommended. He’s using continental grip (and claims more of better one-handers do as well), hence his struggle to rip the ball and that locked restricted swing.

I wouldn’t recommend picking detailed technical information from a guy who is mislead on basic observation level. You need correct info and inputs to then deliver real and practical ideas.

He hit it thousands times and likely can make it work, but it’s far from best OHBHs. But if you want to hit low-rpm conti grip punch BH like him, you can do what he says and stay sideways and so on… I definitely situationally apply sideways arm-driven conti-grip stroke to just get the ball over.
You think it is a coincidence that he demonstrates only a DTL BH? I would like to see him demonstrate how to hit a short angle CC-BH. Or a CC BH off a high ball. Who would take this guy seriously? Is this guy going to tell all the 1HBH pros that they are hitting their BH wrong including Federer and Wawrinka? SMH:eek:
 
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Curious

G.O.A.T.
This guy is wrong on what is good or bad. Not recommended. He’s using continental grip (and claims more of better one-handers do as well), hence his struggle to rip the ball and that locked restricted swing.

I wouldn’t recommend picking detailed technical information from a guy who is mislead on basic observation level. You need correct info and inputs to then deliver real and practical ideas.

He hit it thousands times and likely can make it work, but it’s far from best OHBHs. But if you want to hit low-rpm conti grip punch BH like him, you can do what he says and stay sideways and so on… I definitely situationally apply sideways arm-driven conti-grip stroke to just get the ball over.
I don’t think you should ignore what that guy says. Except the conti grip of course. Would you believe if I said I was ripping top spin backhands today from behind the service line, swinging as fast as I can and all of them landing in the court? :oops: And with hand feeding balls.
I finally cracked the ******* code of ohbh!
 

Dragy

Legend
I don’t think you should ignore what that guy says. Except the conti grip of course. Would you believe if I said I was ripping top spin backhands today from behind the service line, swinging as fast as I can and all of them landing in the court? :oops: And with hand feeding balls.
I finally cracked the ******* code of ohbh!
Good for you, I’ll be waiting for pointplay video where you use your BH as confidently as your FH (y)
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
Here's how I started trying nice and easy and progressing but the real breakthrough came after I stopped recording at the end of 2.5 hours as it was getting dark. It clicked so well that I was swinging 100% with confidence from near the service line ( I thought this would be a good way to test it) and making the balls land in the court.

 

ballmachineguy

Hall of Fame
Here's how I started trying nice and easy and progressing but the real breakthrough came after I stopped recording at the end of 2.5 hours as it was getting dark. It clicked so well that I was swinging 100% with confidence from near the service line ( I thought this would be a good way to test it) and making the balls land in the court.

I’m on a train so I can’t post a picture but your front foot is down before dropping the racquet and you say “you cracked the code?” I’ve been hitting you over the head with that tip/instruction for three years!!!! What is funny though is you won’t do it during a live point, so this will continue on for years.
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
I’m on a train so I can’t post a picture but your front foot is down before dropping the racquet and you say “you cracked the code?” I’ve been hitting you over the head with that tip/instruction for three years!!!! What is funny though is you won’t do it during a live point, so this will continue on for years.
That’s not the code!
 

Shroud

G.O.A.T.
Here's how I started trying nice and easy and progressing but the real breakthrough came after I stopped recording at the end of 2.5 hours as it was getting dark. It clicked so well that I was swinging 100% with confidence from near the service line ( I thought this would be a good way to test it) and making the balls land in the court.

good on you for ditching the motorcycle grip.
 

ballmachineguy

Hall of Fame
That’s not the code!
Well big surprise you claim something else. Are you saying your front foot isn’t down earlier than before? And here is some news for you, whatever you think this code is, it won’t be a fix if you go back to dropping the racquet before your front foot is down.

You are truly something else.
 
You all are overthinking this. If you’re a righty, turn your body to the left, shoulder towards the ball, lean shoulder in, turn body to right, arm follows. That’s it.
It’s all about the body turning.
 

Chas Tennis

G.O.A.T.
Here's how I started trying nice and easy and progressing but the real breakthrough came after I stopped recording at the end of 2.5 hours as it was getting dark. It clicked so well that I was swinging 100% with confidence from near the service line ( I thought this would be a good way to test it) and making the balls land in the court.



At 47 sec, the uppermost body turn looks good but the shoulder joint has not moved the upper arm (humerus) off the chest prior to impact. How close to impact does the shoulder joint activate? After you are familiar with the uppermost body turn, experiment to get the shoulder joint involved approaching impact.
 
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Curious

G.O.A.T.
Well big surprise you claim something else. Are you saying your front foot isn’t down earlier than before? And here is some news for you, whatever you think this code is, it won’t be a fix if you go back to dropping the racquet before your front foot is down.

You are truly something else.
I agree that’s important but it’s not the breakthrough I made.
No one including you, other posters, online coaches have been able to understand and fix why exactly I couldn’t drop my racket. It had to be me finally after 10 years.
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.

At 47 sec, the uppermost body turn looks good but the shoulder joint has not moved the upper arm (humerus) off the chest prior to impact. How close to impact does the shoulder joint activate? After you are familiar with the uppermost body turn, experiment to get the shoulder joint involved approaching impact.
We obsess about details in somewhat different ways, Chas. :)
 

ubercat

Hall of Fame
Awesome. Got utr singles this week. If that goes ok physically I reckon I am officially back. Sort something out for the weekend or next week
 

ballmachineguy

Hall of Fame
This view is better. Can you see a grip change between these two shots? Maybe very subtle. Wouldn’t a grip change from Western fh all the way to eastern/semi western bh be much more obvious?

I see where this is going. T Muster’s grips are the only thing keeping you from being a UTR 9.
 

dlam

Semi-Pro
I transient to the OHB. Took me years but slowly I’m more comfortable
It’s actually “easier” in some ways cause I use the same side of the strings to the hit the ball with as the serve
Also same side as FH

The only difference is the slice BH I use the other side of the racket. The strings that are closer to the net. Then for a short ball FH. I use the same side.of the racket string (Net side) and just grip racket western style

BH volley contact would be the same rackets string side as the the slice. The forehand volley/OH smash would be the opposite side. But I rather adjust the grip but twisting the racket with my left hand
 

Curious

G.O.A.T.
@5263
Is this a pull or push?
I've noticed that it's not a good idea to try to swing fast without having the skills yet. I need to slow down until I'm comfortably making a proper swing.

 
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