BorgTheGOAT
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I mean it is fine, everyone can have his own beliefs but I find von Däniken and Musk not exactly the most reliable people as references.
What do you think about NOT having children?
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kevin qmto
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I knew by the time I was about 20 that kids were not gonna be a thing in my life. Just have zero interest in being a father.
3loudboys
G.O.A.T.
Dragging this thread back to topic, my 18 year old is preparing to go to University in September. We will all miss him terribly but are delighted he has the opportunity. Your parenting doesn’t stop when they reach adulthood it just evolves. We’ll try and help him with a little starter car, go down and visit with food every so often and generally get in his way when he’s trying to be independent lol. As the kids get older your most recent experiences, especially relating to education and work become more relevant. It is satisfying for me anyway to be able to pass on my own experiences to the guys and hopefully help them avoid some common mistakes that my gen made. They’ll make their own all the same but it is done with good intention and might eliminate a hurdle or two.
I can’t even begin to understand or think what I’d be doing now without my family around me. The vast majority of me thinks it would be a soulless self indulgent life style full of quick highs and a search for the next thrill. Another small part of me thinks that opportunities for self fulfilment would be more plentiful, doesn’t last long as for me nothing could be more fulfilling than loving, living and growing with my wife and kids. I genuinely feel for those that won’t experience that and to be clear, I respect the decisions of others who go down a different path. However, they won’t experience the love, joy, pain, tears, companionship and nurturing that parenting brings. It’s a big responsibility and an amazing journey. Looking forward to the next stage as the boys become men. Probably need to change my username now
I can’t even begin to understand or think what I’d be doing now without my family around me. The vast majority of me thinks it would be a soulless self indulgent life style full of quick highs and a search for the next thrill. Another small part of me thinks that opportunities for self fulfilment would be more plentiful, doesn’t last long as for me nothing could be more fulfilling than loving, living and growing with my wife and kids. I genuinely feel for those that won’t experience that and to be clear, I respect the decisions of others who go down a different path. However, they won’t experience the love, joy, pain, tears, companionship and nurturing that parenting brings. It’s a big responsibility and an amazing journey. Looking forward to the next stage as the boys become men. Probably need to change my username now
Bagumbawalla
G.O.A.T.
So, I was just wondering why people get tax write-offs and other benefits,
just because they have children? Seems like it should be the other way around.
People without children should pay less tax because they use fewer social
programs and are less of a burden on the economy.
just because they have children? Seems like it should be the other way around.
People without children should pay less tax because they use fewer social
programs and are less of a burden on the economy.
naturalexponent
Hall of Fame
Because taxation is also about incentives, and you need to encourage population stability for economic growth and a healthy working age, tax-paying population to support things like social security/pensions/healthcare. If anything, there aren't enough tax benefits for people with children -- childcare should be tax deductible, for example, in a country where it isn't provided for free.
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
Can you post some of the sources for this? I am curious to see how these conclusions were arrived at.
LuckyR
Legend
While having children in the aggregate does impact the economy, please, please don't have kids for that reason. Have them, if you must, because it is very important to you and really put your best effort into doing a great job in parenting. If you aren't willing to try to do your best to be a great parent, don't have kids and we'll deal with the economy.
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
It is up to the person positing the theory to provide proof. e.g. If Kyrie Irving claims the earth is flat he has to provide evidence and also be able withstand the round earth people's evidence.
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
i think we should all have children, but i do think we should put a limit on the amount. One or Two at most. this is cause world population is getting out of control. we can't survive this population explotion
Razer
Legend
We can agree to disagree, no problem.
I trust scientists on everything related to science but not on history, even archaeology unfortunately has its limits, sometimes remnants of ancient times have been lost due to passing of time, lot of that cannot be proven but that doesn't mean it is not true.
Ancient Aliens is a cool theory and I choose to believe it since we all worship Gods, all these beliefs must have originated somewhere and the only logical explanation is that they were aliens/inter-dimensional beings that developed the human race for whatever reasons, maybe they were bored and wanted to do an experiment and created us, but it is possible. Can't rule it out.
You can choose not to believe the ancient aliens theory, no problem.
If you want to know more about what it is and how the conclusions were made, you can watch it on Tv .... It is a superhit Tv show called ancient aliens that ran on TV for 14 years now..... you can find the episodes on discovery channel. Not all that is said in the show is 100% true, some of it is exaggerated as well, but the core concepts in it are probably true.... the foundations are not false. You watch it yourself and decide whats true and whats not.
Ancient Aliens - Wikipedia
BorgTheGOAT
Legend
That is not so much about history and archaeology but more about physics, especially astronomy.
So is the theory about BigFoot, Yeti, Nessi, Mu, Lemuria, Atlantis and hundreds more. All are nice theories and it is fun to think about it, but if we look deeper into it most of those legends are debunked and have a lot of logical flaws (I give a small chance still to Atlantis having some core of truth, even though not 100% like Plato described it).
Linelicker
Rookie
It's the only serious contribution on an over-populated planet.
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Stories are like an addition to people... We are quite prone to want them to be true.
Razer
Legend
Why does Michio Kaku believe in ancient aliens if that is absurd ? He is a scientist.
Who are the archangels/gods/deities that are worshiped in various cultures? If they are not inter-dimensional travelers (aliens) then what are they?
Atlantis & Lemuria are no myths, underwater cities and ruins do exist, not every water filled region today was the same thousands of years, sea levels do rise and drop sometimes and cities do sink. When something like that will happen again then mankind's faith on God will be firm once again, in recent decades the generations have become atheists
BorgTheGOAT
Legend
Lemuria is definitely a myth, Atlantis as I said might have a core of truth, but two difficulties arise here in what Platon writes. First he says in Timaios that Atlantis was bigger than Asia and Africa together which is absolutely impossible unless he is speaking about the American continent which wasn’t destroyed by floods however. And second, he dates the destruction of Atlantis 9.500 years B.C which is way too long back considering that he also writes about Atlantis losing a war against Athens which definitely didn’t exist at that time. Therefore the predominating stance of historians is that Platon invented the story because he was unhappy with his fellow Athens-citizens who had become decadent and wanted to give them a wake-up call by telling a story about some ideal society that ruled the world and got too greedy at some point which led to their demise and ultimate destruction (on the other hand he states in both Timaios and Kritias that the story is true and that he got it from an Egyptian priest of Sais).
One theory which I think could maybe be true is that there was some error in translation from Egyptian hieroglyphs for years and months which would set the date of Atlantis’ destruction roughly at 1.200 B.C. which coincides with the proven destruction of several cultures of the bronce ages by the attack of the sea-people whose origin is still not known until now. As well there were several floods and volcanic eruptions at that time (minoan eruption that destroyed Thera), so this might be a possible explanation.
As far as I know he believes that we will soon be able to contact them via transmission, not that they would ever be able to reach our planet.
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Razer
Legend
Not just Atlantis, even Lemuria existed.
It is a sunken continent that is connected with India, Madagascar and Australia, the ancient Tamil People had this as their continent long long ago. In India the south indian culture predates north indian culture by many millenia but most of india abroad is known by the north india way of life, however truth is far from that, one of the reason for this is because ancient north indians migrated to present day India from arctic regions during the polar shift while south indians were already established in India long before that and are the original native residents of the land. This ancient sunken continent Lemuria was known as Kumari Kandam by Tamilians in India and the words "Kumari Kandam" first appear in Kanda Puranam, a 15th-century Tamil version of the Skanda Purana, written by Kachiappa Sivacharyara (1350–1420).
I believe any stories which exist for thousands of years must have some truth to it, we cannot write epics and sell it to the public so that it can be remembered 5000-10000 years later, that is not possible. You can write Game of Throne or LOTR today but nobody is buying it to be real. So these stories are not false, they are definitely real.
I trust Plato as well, Atlantis must have been real just like Lemuria/Kumari Kandam.
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Razer
Legend
Sea people theory seems interesting, where can I read more about it ?
BorgTheGOAT
Legend
The story of Lemuria does not exist for 1000 years, it was postulated in 1864 by a zoologist and biologist who tried to find an explanation for primate fossils being found in Madagascar and India but not on the African continent which led him speculate that Madagascar and India were once part of a sunken continent called Lemuria. This has long been debunked though and there are better explanation for this alleged anomaly. As for Atlantis: no ancient philosopher/writer apart from Platon ever mentioned it and there were already lots of doubts about the truth of his story among his contemporaries and later among Romans, so it is not that those are stories that have survived thousands of years without being questioned. I also trust Plato, question is as I said, what his intention was. Did he want to tell a true story? Did he want to give a wake-up call to the population of Athens? Did he want to make up a good story where his Polis defeats a seemingly unbeatable opponent? There are many possible explanations.
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hoodjem
G.O.A.T.
Razer
Legend
West might have come to know of Lemuria in 1864 but Indians knew of this long before and who knows the Indian Ocean better than the Indians?
As I said, the first known mention of Lemuria is in the 15th century version of the Hindu Religious Texts called the "Skanda Purana" published by some dude called Kachiappa Sivacharyara who lived between 1350 and 1420, the original version of this ancient text is as old as 800 BC.
3loudboys
G.O.A.T.
acintya
Legend
yeah it is. i paid a big price, my "tennis leftie project" is "frozen".
but yeah.. there is no way that a childless person can understand what means to be a parent and how it feels like to have children and also how much sacrifice you need to make if you really want to be a good parent.
by that i mean..not just handing electronic devices to your boy ti have some free time etc.
if we gonna do it,lets do it the right way!
acintya
Legend
It really is.
First I was the childless OP
now I am reading this thread with Michu Kaku, giants and stuff with two children.
Atlantis, Lemuria, Annunaki
but they are not far of.
J is returning and the Nephilim are also. Just look around.
we live in a devilish World. more than ever.
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