Why did Federer, Serena and Nadal having children affect their games so badly? But not Djokovic?

[tennisfan2166]

The buffet table affected Serena. Not kids. Never seen someone so out of shape as a professional athlete. Nadal is at the end of his career with about 3 years of more miles on his body than djokovic (Djoker will be where Nadal is now probably in 3 years if he still playing l) . Federer just had a normal decline and djokovic was just too much for him at the end of the day.

This post is the definition of mansplaining. Sad and pathetic.

 

[LaVie en Rose]

Most members understood these were made jokingly.

if they only had same sense of humor when it comes to their favorites
Hypocrisy.

But hey thread will go down to toilet , trace will be erased. Will be back to hypotheticals , peak prime , age excuses etc

 

[tennisfan2166]

if they only had same sense of humor when it comes to their favorites
Hypocrisy.

But hey thread will go down to toilet , trace will be erased. Will be back to hypotheticals , peak prime , age excuses etc

This thread is from last year. The options are:
- this thread will never go to the toilet
- we are in the toilet

I'm inclined to go with the latter.

 

[Hypo Crisis]

Djokovic is obsessed and care more about the slam race than his children ?

NatF maybe said that with tongue in cheek but you really mean it

 

[Hypo Crisis]

OP, maybe you noticed some patterns in their careers? When Serena and Nadal had theirs, what it means to a female player, what to a male player.
And for Fed, he wasn't affected by his children but by strong field and competition.
How on earth could he win those 3 slams in 2017 when he was a parent ? Well call me surprised- Murray and Djokovic were out.

 

[LaVie en Rose]

This thread is from last year. The options are:
- this thread will never go to the toilet
- we are in the toilet

I'm inclined to go with the latter.

There is post, pointing at Serena love for buffet table and mocking her physical appearance ...From my experience here,I sense deletion is coming

 

[hoodjem]

Djokovic is a man's man, he finds 'other outlets' (or is it 'inputs') for his stress while Fed and Nads get henpecked and have to rub their wives' feet, change diapers, and stuff.

Djokovic is a pyramid's pyramid.

 

[tex123]

How did having children affect Federer's, Serena's and Nadal's games so badly, but Djokovic has not been affected and if anything has got better?

Fed, Nadal and Serena love their children more than their career.

 

[Kralingen]

LOL, two BS posts got the most likes. How do you two know how things go in the Djokovic household?

I’m genuinely insulted that you took that response seriously lol. The OP in the thread was complete BS to begin with anyways, obviously.

I get sarcasm over the internet is hard but.. not that hard?

 

[The Fedfather]

I don't know if it is a new woke thing or usual thing , but some men have started posting " We are pregnant " on social media when their wife gets pregnant.

If men aren't actually going to give birth then why to use such a phrase ? I don't understand

I think it's just an expression of support. Men showing that they are in this together with their wives or girlfriends. I know some women are not fond of this, but I personally think it's sweet

 

[bluetrain4]

I was going to say that Serena has to be considered separately because she's a woman and actually had to carry the baby and have her body change as a result; that she was already getting out of shape and then being pregnant and having the baby made the road back to fitness harder. But the timeline doesn't completely support what I thought was the link between pregnancy and decline.

Serena won AO 2017 while pregnant, and then missed the rest of the year. When she came back, she was never in the same shape as the peak of her career, but even before her daughter was born, she wasn't in her 2000s peak shape. When she returns in 2018, she's struggling at first - remember how big she was at FO 2018. But the remainder of 2018 and 2019 she makes four Slam finals. While she's not peak Serena, if she's making 4 Slam finals, I'm not sure we can pin "decline" THAT much on having a baby, though we also shouldn't say it didn't have ANY effect. She really did have ADDITIONAL extra weight and body changes to deal with even if you note that she had time being in less than optimal shape before the baby.

Her greater decline started after the 2018-19 period, even though she made a Slam SF as late as 2021. While she made some progress with her fitness at times, Serena seemingly never made a last-gasp all-out gonzo fitness attempt after the baby to get in absolute tip-top shape for her age. And then, of course, she reaches her late 30s and there's foundational decline that would have existed even if she never had a baby.

 

[Rosstour]

The buffet table affected Serena. Not kids. Never seen someone so out of shape as a professional athlete. Nadal is at the end of his career with about 3 years of more miles on his body than djokovic (Djoker will be where Nadal is now probably in 3 years if he still playing l) . Federer just had a normal decline and djokovic was just too much for him at the end of the day.

She had a c-section you misogynist fwad

 

[LaVie en Rose]

I was going to say that Serena has to be considered separately because she's a woman and actually had to carry the baby and have her body change as a result; that she was already getting out of shape and then being pregnant and having the baby made the road back to fitness harder. But the timeline doesn't completely support what I thought was the link between pregnancy and decline.

Serena won AO 2017 while pregnant, and then missed the rest of the year. When she came back, she was never in the same shape as the peak of her career, but even before her daughter was born, she wasn't in her 2000s peak shape. When she returns in 2018, she's struggling at first - remember how big she was at FO 2018. But the remainder of 2018 and 2019 she makes four Slam finals. While she's not peak Serena, if she's making 4 Slam finals, I'm not sure we can pin "decline" THAT much on having a baby, though we also shouldn't say it didn't have ANY effect. She really did have ADDITIONAL extra weight and body changes to deal with even if you note that she had time being in less than optimal shape before the baby.

Her greater decline started after the 2018-19 period, even though she made a Slam SF as late as 2021. While she made some progress with her fitness at times, Serena seemingly never made a last-gasp all-out gonzo fitness attempt after the baby to get in absolute tip-top shape for her age. And then, of course, she reaches her late 30s and there's foundational decline that would have existed even if she never had a baby.

Serena was 36 when she got pregnant . One can't hold against her that she never physically returned to her former self

 

[bluetrain4]

Serena was 36 when she got pregnant . One can't hold against her that she never physically returned to her former self

I certainly don't.

 

[LaVie en Rose]

Ok

 

[bluetrain4]

I don't know if it is a new woke thing or usual thing , but some men have started posting " We are pregnant " on social media when their wife gets pregnant.

If men aren't actually going to give birth then why to use such a phrase ? I don't understand

"We're pregnant" existed long before "woke" was a thing, even before social media dominated our conversations. Maybe it's usage has broadened, and even if it hasn't, people will definitely have more exposure to it because we have more exposure to everything now. Not all men say it of course, maybe even most men don't, but it's been around for a long time. Like the other poster said, it's usually just a show of support for the wife - "we're in this together."

 

[ChaelAZ]

Badly? Uh no.
Let's just call it personal choice in how they wanted to be part of their kids lives.
I think Federer was the epitome of balancing tennis and family though.

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Can't be more insensitive than this. Try to get pregnant, carry and give child birth . Oh noes

And give them. hundreds of millions of dollars to a person, the best healthcare the world can provide, no real job other than staying in shape, and playing tennis and an assortment of nutritionists and doctors LOL.

. Theres no defending a pro athlete that can’t stay in shape and comes in overweight all the time. . Absolutely none . Other than serious physical illness.

Serena was just too lazy to stay in shape. Bottom line . That’s why she never surpassed court or graf. or got all the records Despite having 1000x the physical gifts of any player who ever played. She couldn’t even win a calendar slam despite all the added advantages she had on every player

 

[tennisfan2166]

Djokovic kids don't travel, right? Mrs Djokovic wasn't even at AO, right? I feel Djokovic is not as committed to his family as other players at his level. Doesn't make him a bad person, just a different way of managing his family.

 

[LaVie en Rose]

Fantastic conclusion What else to expect here.Working abroad parent doesn’t subordinate his children to his work.He is not committed to his family like heroes who bring their children to their work consistently

 

[tennisfan2166]

And give them. hundreds of millions of dollars to a person, the best healthcare the world can provide, no real job other than staying in shape, and playing tennis and an assortment of nutritionists and doctors LOL.

. Theres no defending a pro athlete that can’t stay in shape and comes in overweight all the time. . Absolutely none . Other than serious physical illness.

Serena was just too lazy to stay in shape. Bottom line . That’s why she never surpassed court or graf. or got all the records Despite having 1000x the physical gifts of any player who ever played. She couldn’t even win a calendar slam despite all the added advantages she had on every player

Disgusting.