Who thinks Fed would play better with a 95" racquet?

yebo

Rookie
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Lets say this Mr. "Ron" person meant exactly as you say.

How does Mr. "Ron" know what the materials inside the K90 are? How Does he know that the 4 "K" factors were not taken out and that Roger for that matter is really still playing with an Ncode or his original racquet and never changed?


Roger and Sampras do not believe in changing racquets and I doubt that Federer ever changed except from his 85 to a 90 or from his 85 to a 95 and then to a 90.

I dont think anyone can be absolutely sure.

lol hilarious post right here
Mr. "Ron"... oh dear

obvious troll is obvious
 

volleynets

Hall of Fame
The reliability of the sources is a judgement call.

But the fact that there are differing sources on the issue of whether Fed ever used a 95 inch proves that its all just speculation .

No one knows for sure.
You idiot the people who strung Federer's rackets know for sure. And have compared it with a retail version. WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ALL THE POSTS WHERE PEOPLE KNOW FOR SURE AND PAYING ATTENTION TO ONLY SPECULATION.

If it is a judgement call to pick between people who know and people who dont then you have NO JUDGEMENT picking Wikipedia.
 
You idiot the people who strung Federer's rackets know for sure. And have compared it with a retail version. WHY ARE YOU IGNORING ALL THE POSTS WHERE PEOPLE KNOW FOR SURE AND PAYING ATTENTION TO ONLY SPECULATION.

If it is a judgement call to pick between people who know and people who dont then you have NO JUDGEMENT picking Wikipedia.

I believe you are the idiot my friend.

Federers stringers have never once said that Feder never used a 95.....not once!

They said he plays with a 90 now .....I defy you to show one of Feds stringers that says that Federer NEVER played with a 95.

Now say sorry.....you have been measured and found wanting.
 
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crazylevity

Hall of Fame
From that SAME article posted by the Eurosport commentator and journalist, who PERSONALLY asked Federer about the racquet switch:

Federer’s transition to the pro tour was fairly rapid, and by the end of 2001 he was closing in on the top 10. But despite a landmark victory over Pete Sampras at Wimbledon, he had yet to make it past the quarterfinal of a Grand Slam. The following spring, he made a bold decision right in the middle of the clay court season – switching to a 90 square-inch version of the Pro Staff. The larger sweet spot allowed him to hit fewer balls off the frame and reduce his unforced errors.

The results were almost immediate. In his second tournament with the new racquet, he won Hamburg for his first Masters Series title, producing a scintillating performance in the final against then-No. 4 Marat Safin and declaring it “the best game of my life.”

The following year he became Wimbledon champion and soon afterwards started an unparalleled run at the top of the rankings, seducing everyone with his smooth technique and exquisite timing.

There was still the occasional shanked shot, of course, particularly when he was trying to impart 4,400 rpm on his topspin forehand. After all, even with the 90 square-inch head, he was still playing with the smallest stick on the tour. Other Wilson players currently on the tour choose midsize versions between 93 and 98 square inches, and the average size of the racquets on tour is leaning towards 100 square inches.

Federer’s racquet, now called the Wilson KFactor KSix-One Tour 90, has barely changed since.

At the Australian Open, I asked him about whether he would consider making a switch. The question elicited a negative response, even though he spoke positively about his earlier change.

“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.

“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.

“Funny, I wanted to play with the racquet of Sampras, now Sampras is playing with the racquet of me,” Federer smiled. “Kind of weird... he changed to mine now.”
 
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volleynets

Hall of Fame
I believe you are the idiot my friend.

Federers stringers have never once said that Feder never used a 95.....not once!

They said he plays with a 90 now .....I defy you to show one of Feds stringers that says that Federer NEVER played with a 95.

Now say sorry.....you have been measured and found wanting.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! MEasured and found wanting? Thats because nobody ever dared to ask them a question so stupid. One that everybody knows.

You defy me to show that Feds stringers said that? HAHAHA that means you don't want me to show you you idiot. Learn to speak English. The million dollar question is..... How old are you?


OK pay close attention here is exactly what Federer said as in the post above me since it takes you 5 posts of the same content to read through till it finally clicks.

ROGER FEDERER:

“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.

“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.


So there you go dipstick. He changed to a 90 in 2002. Since then he has had the paintjobs of the Hyper Carbon Tour 90, Ncode 90 and K Factor 90.

WILL YOU FINALLY BELIEVE FEDERER IF YOU DIDN't BELIEVE THE REST OF US? I fully expect you to not show your face in the thread again though it is okay. Proven wrong 20 times and still coming back for more ownage. It's okay buddy.

FEDERER JUST STATED HE HAS NEVER TRIED A BIGGER RACKET THAN A 90. REPEAT: HE HAS NOT EVEN TRIED IT. THIS IS NOT A DRILL.
 
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LPShanet

Banned
The reliability of the sources is a judgement call.

But the fact that there are differing sources on the issue of whether Fed ever used a 95 inch proves that its all just speculation .

No one knows for sure.

I'm telling you now that the sky is actually below us, in the center of the earth. Now that I've said that, there are differing sources on that subject, too. Yet, somehow I'm guessing you're the only person on the planet who will believe it to be a matter of speculation.

While reliability is a judgement call, you make yourself look like an imbecile by equating random noobs, trolls and <restraining giggle> Wikipedia with the people who actually manufacture, string and customize Fed's racquet.

There also used to be people who thought the sun was a god rather than a big ball of fire, gases (I'm restraining myself from making a hot air joke here) and suchlike. That doesn't mean that all discussion on the matter is speculation. It's an infantile and specious argument you make. Or should I use smaller words?

Just because someone disagrees with something doesn't make all discussion on the matter speculation. As the kids like to say these days: Epic Fail.

Just a thought for you: it's better to be wrong than stupid.
 

yebo

Rookie
KoA stands on his infalliable logic of: "they never said he never used a 95"

this is undeniable logic
it is clear that federer has dabbled with a 95 many years in his career
 

LPShanet

Banned
The reliability of the sources is a judgement call.

But the fact that there are differing sources on the issue of whether Fed ever used a 95 inch proves that its all just speculation .

No one knows for sure.

And how is it possible that "no one knows for sure"? Doesn't someone have to make those frames? Explain to me how it's possible that these racquets exist, yet no one knows how they are made. Please I implore you to explain that logic. How can the people who make something not know how they make it?

I'm assuming you won't answer this question, as you have so far ignored 90% of the queries directed at you, and addressed the other 10% with the silly "no one knows" angle to keep your little fight alive.
 

volleynets

Hall of Fame
KoA stands on his infalliable logic of: "they never said he never used a 95"

this is undeniable logic
it is clear that federer has dabbled with a 95 many years in his career

??? Not you too. Federer himself said he never tried a bigger headsize than 90.
 

crazylevity

Hall of Fame
^^ To be honest, I didn't. I merely skimmed through it, just during a break from writing a long paper. And even THEN, I picked it up. I just don't understand how this KoA guy is failing to comprehend simple facts.
 
KoA stands on his infalliable logic of: "they never said he never used a 95"

this is undeniable logic
it is clear that federer has dabbled with a 95 many years in his career

Thats not my logic at all. Rather its simply:

Fact: Federer apparently used a 95 inch racquet as there are pictures of it all over the internet.

Fact: Federer, Wilson and his racquet stringers never say that his 95 was a painjob

Conclusion: It is speculation wheter Federer ever used a 95. We just dont know for sure .
 
And Federer's stringers have never once said that Federer has never been to Mars...not once!

So I guess that means Federer has been to Mars, right? :roll:

Except that if you had a picture of Federer on Mars then it may change a few things.

In the case at bar we have Pictures of Federer playing with a Hyper Pro Staff 95 inch racquet.

We even have some sources including yourself at one time saying that Federer did in fact play with a 95.

Again....no one knows for sure.
 

vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Thats not my logic at all. Rather its simply:

Fact: Federer apparently used a 95 inch racquet as there are pictures of it all over the internet.

Fact: Federer, Wilson and his racquet stringers never say that his 95 was a painjob

Conclusion: It is speculation wheter Federer ever used a 95. We just dont know for sure .

You see we do know for sure!!!!

Stick Shift: Time for Federer to rethink his racquet?
By Miguel Seabra
At the Australian Open, I asked him about whether he would consider making a switch. The question elicited a negative response, even though he spoke positively about his earlier change.

“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.

“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.

“Funny, I wanted to play with the racquet of Sampras, now Sampras is playing with the racquet of me,” Federer smiled. “Kind of weird... he changed to mine now.”

http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=140804

Those photos of Federer with the Pro Staff 85 with the PAINT JOB of the Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95 have really fooled you!!:lol:
 
And how is it possible that "no one knows for sure"? Doesn't someone have to make those frames? Explain to me how it's possible that these racquets exist, yet no one knows how they are made. Please I implore you to explain that logic. How can the people who make something not know how they make it?

I'm assuming you won't answer this question, as you have so far ignored 90% of the queries directed at you, and addressed the other 10% with the silly "no one knows" angle to keep your little fight alive.

Im not ignoring you ....its the other way around.

I dont want to keep posting the same thing all of the tnme but you just keep ignorng thins I bring up and quote. But alas here I go again......

The racquet was made by Wilson. It was the Hyper Prostaff 95. I posted a tenniswarehouse thread with Tennis warehouse people on boit sides of the debate. Here is a picture of it for you again:


Federer_tenis.JPG

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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
Im not ignoring you ....its the other way around.

I dont want to keep posting the same thing all of the tnme but you just keep ignorng thins I bring up and quote. But alas here I go again......

The racquet was made by Wilson. It was the Hyper Prostaff 95. I posted a tenniswarehouse thread with Tennis warehouse people on boit sides of the debate. Here is a picture of it for you again:


Federer_tenis.JPG

64828e03.jpg

You keep on ignoring the facts!!!!
Stick Shift: Time for Federer to rethink his racquet?
By Miguel Seabra
At the Australian Open, I asked him about whether he would consider making a switch. The question elicited a negative response, even though he spoke positively about his earlier change.

“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.

“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.

“Funny, I wanted to play with the racquet of Sampras, now Sampras is playing with the racquet of me,” Federer smiled. “Kind of weird... he changed to mine now.”

http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=140804

Those photos of Federer with the Pro Staff 85 with the PAINT JOB of the Hyper Pro Staff 6.0 95 have really fooled you!!:lol:
 
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VSBabolat

“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me"....... Roger Federer

that doesnt make sense...how does one change from an 85 to a 90 and then change to a 90???? I believe that was a typo....what he may have meant was that he changed from an 85 to a 95 ...shanked a lot of balls and then changed to a 90.

Remember....he is just a tennis pro, unlike Obama he can make some incorrect comments. ;)

In any event even assuming arguendo that somehow that is what he meant , he still never said that his Hyper Prostaff 95 was a paintjob. He still may have dabbled with a 95 for some time. We just dont know...its truly speulation and we can debate this ad nauseum.

(can you please not write in poster size....it make you look like you are yelling and a bit koo koo).

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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
VSBabolat

“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.[/SIZE]

that doesnt make sense...how does one change from an 85 to a 90 nd then change to a 90???? I believe that was a typo....what he may have meant was that he changed from an 85 to a 95 ...shanked a lot of balls and then changed to a 90.

Remember....he is just a tennis pro, unlike Obama he can make some incorrect comments. ;)

In any event even assuming arguendo that somehow that is what he meant , he still never said that his Hyper Prostaff 95 was a paintjob. He still may have dabbled with a 95 for some time. We just dont know...its truly speulation and we can debate this ad nauseum.

So now you have decided to put words in Federer's mouth. The only one that is koo koo is you buddy.

Federer's statement speaks for itself if you can't understand it there is no hope for you.

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Shot with Canon EOS 5D at 2008-09-19
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Shot with Canon EOS 5D at 2008-09-19
 
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vsbabolat

G.O.A.T.
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Maybe Fed Uses The Paintjob And Maybe He Didnt. We Dont Know.

Sure we do it is very easy to tell a paint job. Well not for you King of Aces because you are not smart enough.

http://www.tennis.com/features/general/features.aspx?id=140804
At the Australian Open, I asked him about whether he would consider making a switch. The question elicited a negative response, even though he spoke positively about his earlier change.

“No, I've always been very happy,” said Federer. “I never really tried a bigger head-size racquet. I don't think it would maybe help me much.

“I switched from 85 to 90 back in 2002 just before I won Hamburg. That was for me a big move because I was really shanking a lot of balls. Then I changed to a 90. I asked Wilson to make something special for me. Yeah, I mean, it's a great racquet for me.

“Funny, I wanted to play with the racquet of Sampras, now Sampras is playing with the racquet of me,” Federer smiled. “Kind of weird... he changed to mine now.”


Here are Federer's paint job.
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Recently, I strung one of those 90sq in RF rackets with the babolat team gut at 60lbs and I felt its specs really similar to K90.

 
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BreakPoint

Bionic Poster
Except that if you had a picture of Federer on Mars then it may change a few things.

In the case at bar we have Pictures of Federer playing with a Hyper Pro Staff 95 inch racquet.

We even have some sources including yourself at one time saying that Federer did in fact play with a 95.

Again....no one knows for sure.
Hello? Where is this picture? That picture you have been posting is of him using a PS 6.0 85 with a HPS 6.0 95 Tour paintjob! It only LOOKS bigger because of the angle of the frame in the pic. Show us a pic of him using the racquet with a straight on shot of the frame. If you could find one, it would be clear that it's a PS 6.0 85, and NOT a 95!
 

LPShanet

Banned
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Maybe Fed Uses The Paintjob And Maybe He Didnt. We Dont Know.

No, only YOU don't know. Everyone else knows. You increase everyone's disrespect for you and your (lack of) knowledge every time you say that. Seriously, man, it's time to try and preserve just a little bit of respect for yourself. I'm starting to feel sorry for you. It's a bit sad, really...like one of those fools on "Cops" who just keeps saying that he has no idea how the drugs got into his pockets, and that someone has just planted them there, but insists that he doesn't know even after he's caught. You might want to try to recover a little of your dignity.
 

LPShanet

Banned
Thats not my logic at all. Rather its simply:

Fact: Federer apparently used a 95 inch racquet as there are pictures of it all over the internet.

Fact: Federer, Wilson and his racquet stringers never say that his 95 was a painjob

Conclusion: It is speculation wheter Federer ever used a 95. We just dont know for sure .

Using the same logic:

Fact: KOA has never stated his actual age on the thread.

Fact: KOA has never stated that he's watched a tennis match.

Fact: KOA has never stated that he's legally competent mentally.

Fact: No one has ever said that KOA doesn't wear dresses and heels every day.

Conclusion: KOA is a 7-year old cross-dressing ****** who's never watched tennis.

See the flaw in the logic? Oh wait, maybe it's a good method. We just don't know for sure.
 

LPShanet

Banned
Except that if you had a picture of Federer on Mars then it may change a few things.

In the case at bar we have Pictures of Federer playing with a Hyper Pro Staff 95 inch racquet.

We even have some sources including yourself at one time saying that Federer did in fact play with a 95.

Again....no one knows for sure.

And you're still telling BP what he thinks. The evidence mounts.
 

LPShanet

Banned
Im not ignoring you ....its the other way around.

I dont want to keep posting the same thing all of the tnme but you just keep ignorng thins I bring up and quote. But alas here I go again......

The racquet was made by Wilson. It was the Hyper Prostaff 95. I posted a tenniswarehouse thread with Tennis warehouse people on boit sides of the debate. Here is a picture of it for you again:

This is really your defense? You think that by posting a picture of the paintjob, you have proven that no one in the world remembers making his racquets? That makes a lot of sense. Why wouldn't Wilson know how they made said racquet? Plenty of people at Wilson will quickly admit to paintjobs, and have...just not in a freaking press release. And yet, you're still going with what's painted on the frame. I could sell you a Ferrari that looks exactly like a 74 Chevy Nova. But I put Ferrari on the side, so it's definitely a Ferrari. I'll give you a good deal. I promise.
 

LPShanet

Banned
Oh, and back to the original direction of this thread, the last person in the draw with a 100 square inch racquet got waxed yesterday, despite being a heavy favorite. It's starting to look like a larger head is a real disadvantage, if you're still the type that thinks switching frames at the top of the game is a good idea. Of course, there are those (well, one guy) on this thread who would just say we have no idea what head size anyone on the tour really uses so really the large head players might still be winning with disguises, mirrors and optical illusions.
 
This is really your defense? You think that by posting a picture of the paintjob.

Maybe its a paint job and maybe its not. Its just speculation at this point.

You may decide that you value the opinions that it was a paint job.....but thats all it is...an opinion. No one really knows.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
King of Aces, in an honest attempt to possibly finally get through to you..please consider this.

Federer says "I switched from a 85 to a 90 just before Hamburg"

he did so as an experiement for that tournament

then he made the final decision to

"switch to a 90"

In the picture you posted, it's clear to me that the racquet he's playing with is NOT a 95, so where is your proof?


If you paint the word FORD on a Chevrolet, does it make the Chevy a Ford? No, it doesn't. And painting a racquet to look like a model of a different head size doesn't make it larger.

To further that thought, when you watch stock car racing and they have, pick a car, a Ford Taurus looking race car. Does that make it a real Ford Taurus? Do they really go 180 mph?

Way back when, Rod Laver signed a big endorsement to play with Chemhold racquets. They were really crappy, but they offerred him some dough, so he did it. Laver thought he could play with anything, but developed a really bad elbow because of it. He broke out his old Dunlop Forts and bought some gold spray paint and painted them gold like the metal Chemhold he was paid to use. Did that make his Dunlops become Chemholds?

Ilie Nastase played with the Dunlop Fort as well. He won many tournaments with it. But then, he signed an all-encompassing deal with Adidas. They built him a frame, the Adidas Haillet. I bought one in 1978 and still have it. But, Nastase opted to have his Dunlops painted to look like the new Adidas racquet. Because they were painted to look like the Haillet, did they become the Haillet?

Ivan Lendl began his career with the Kneissel White Star frame. Later, he too signed an all encompassing deal with Adidas. Adidas got Kniessel to make the frame under the Adidas name. Did the frame magically morph into a different frame? And then Lendl signed another deal with Mizuno. He stenciled his old racuqet with the Mizuno stencil. Did that make it a Mizuno mid size even though it was really a Kniessel built Adidas labeled standard sized frame?

Back in the day, Jose Luis Clerc changed his sponsorship from Rossignol to ProKennex. He tried the Golden Ace, but never could get used to it. He then painted his Rossignols black and stenciled them ProKennex. Now, you probably aren't aware, but the Golden Ace was a wood frame with an open throat and the Rossignol he played with was a standard wood racquet. The question for you is, just because he stenciled his frame ProKennex, did that make it in fact become a ProKennex?

Later, Boris Becker changed his sponsorship from Puma to other brands because Puma owed him money. Rather than change frames, Becker bought the mould and Head agreed to run some off for him at a nominal fee. Becker then stenciled them ESTUSA. Did that make the frames ESTUSA?

Andre Agassi signed a big deal with Donnay. They built him a special racquet. Agassi tried the racquet but didn't like it. Rather than communicate that to Donnay, he just took his old Prince Graphite OS frame and stenciled it with a big "D" for Donnay. Did that make his Prince Graphite OS become a Donnay Pro OS?

Pat Rafter played a seniors event a couple of months ago. His racquet was painted to look like a Dunlop. But when you got up close you could see that it was a Prince frame painted to look like a Dunlop. The bumper guard and clear plastic bridge in the throat were give aways. In your view, is this frame a Dunlop because it's painted to look like a Dunlop or a Prince because that is who really made it?

And finally, how old are you and what level do you play?

I'd really be interested to get your answers to these questions.
 

Rabbit

G.O.A.T.
This is really your defense? You think that by posting a picture of the paintjob, you have proven that no one in the world remembers making his racquets? That makes a lot of sense. Why wouldn't Wilson know how they made said racquet? Plenty of people at Wilson will quickly admit to paintjobs, and have...just not in a freaking press release. And yet, you're still going with what's painted on the frame. I could sell you a Ferrari that looks exactly like a 74 Chevy Nova. But I put Ferrari on the side, so it's definitely a Ferrari. I'll give you a good deal. I promise.

Dude, it should be clear to you now that Federer doesn't play with a Wilson frame. This is a Keebler. It is hand made secretly by the Keebler elves in a tree in an undisclosed location.
 
Federer says "I switched from a 85 to a 90 just before Hamburg"

That does not mean he didnt try a 95 as well. Besides he firther adds that after that he switched to switching from an 85 he switched to a 90 was shankoing the ball and then switched to a 90.

That doesnt make sense!!! Clearly what is far more likely and what he meant was that he switched from an 85 to a 95 ....shanked the ball and switched therefore switched to a 90.

he did so as an experiement for that tournament

then he made the final decision to

"switch to a 90"

Yes that very well may be. We just dont know for sure.

In the picture you posted, it's clear to me that the racquet he's playing with is NOT a 95, so where is your proof?

Now thats not very hoinest Rabbit.

You have repeatedly said over and over again that the difference between a 90 and a 95 is tiny....even if you held up the racquets to each other. You dard me to try.

I did and you are right.....so how the hell can you tell from a picture that its a 90 and not a 95?

If you paint the word FORD on a Chevrolet, does it make the Chevy a Ford? No, it doesn't. And painting a racquet to look like a model of a different head size doesn't make it larger.

I agree .....but there is no way to show wahts under the paint for sure. We can speculate but even you yourself saud before that Federer probably was experimenting with the 95.

To further that thought, when you watch stock car racing and they have, pick a car, a Ford Taurus looking race car. Does that make it a real Ford Taurus? Do they really go 180 mph?

But again....we just dont know if Federer was using a paint job. No one knows for sure....you admitted that by saying you think he was just dabbling with a 95.

Way back when, Rod Laver signed a big endorsement to play with Chemhold racquets. They were really crappy, but they offerred him some dough, so he did it. Laver thought he could play with anything, but developed a really bad elbow because of it. He broke out his old Dunlop Forts and bought some gold spray paint and painted them gold like the metal Chemhold he was paid to use. Did that make his Dunlops become Chemholds?

So by your analogy you admit that at the very least Federer dabbled with a 95 racquet.

Ilie Nastase played with the Dunlop Fort as well. He won many tournaments with it. But then, he signed an all-encompassing deal with Adidas. They built him a frame, the Adidas Haillet. I bought one in 1978 and still have it. But, Nastase opted to have his Dunlops painted to look like the new Adidas racquet. Because they were painted to look like the Haillet, did they become the Haillet?

So again....You say Roger diod use a 95 even if it was for a short time.

Ivan Lendl began his career with the Kneissel White Star frame. Later, he too signed an all encompassing deal with Adidas. Adidas got Kniessel to make the frame under the Adidas name. Did the frame magically morph into a different frame? And then Lendl signed another deal with Mizuno. He stenciled his old racuqet with the Mizuno stencil. Did that make it a Mizuno mid size even though it was really a Kniessel built Adidas labeled standard sized frame?

No of course not. But we dont know what Federer did. We just dont know for sure if he played with a 95 or not. its just speculation

Back in the day, Jose Luis Clerc changed his sponsorship from Rossignol to ProKennex. He tried the Golden Ace, but never could get used to it. He then painted his Rossignols black and stenciled them ProKennex. Now, you probably aren't aware, but the Golden Ace was a wood frame with an open throat and the Rossignol he played with was a standard wood racquet. The question for you is, just because he stenciled his frame ProKennex, did that make it in fact become a ProKennex?

Agai no....but agaion we dont know iof Roger was playing with a paintjob or whether he was using the 95. No one knows for sure.

Later, Boris Becker changed his sponsorship from Puma to other brands because Puma owed him money. Rather than change frames, Becker bought the mould and Head agreed to run some off for him at a nominal fee. Becker then stenciled them ESTUSA. Did that make the frames ESTUSA?

We dont know if Roger was using a paintjob or playing with a real 95.

Andre Agassi signed a big deal with Donnay. They built him a special racquet. Agassi tried the racquet but didn't like it. Rather than communicate that to Donnay, he just took his old Prince Graphite OS frame and stenciled it with a big "D" for Donnay. Did that make his Prince Graphite OS become a Donnay Pro OS?

We dont know if Roger was using a paintjob or playing with a real 95.

Pat Rafter played a seniors event a couple of months ago. His racquet was painted to look like a Dunlop. But when you got up close you could see that it was a Prince frame painted to look like a Dunlop. The bumper guard and clear plastic bridge in the throat were give aways. In your view, is this frame a Dunlop because it's painted to look like a Dunlop or a Prince because that is who really made it?

We dont know if Roger was using a paintjob or playing with a real 95.
And finally, how old are you and what level do you play?

I'd really be interested to get your answers to these questions.

satisfied? ;)...sure took me long enuf.....sheesh!
 
scratch the normal part....


You sir are my biggest fan.

If I ever had to play you in a tennis match I would kill you.

All I would have to do is wear a t shirt that said "King of Aces" and you would have a bervous breakdown.:shock:

Man you are the absolute best.!
 
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You sir are my biggest fan.

If I ever had to play you in a tennis match I would kill you.

All I would have to do is wear a t shirt that said "King of Aces" and you would have a bervous breakdown.:shock:

Man you are the absolute best.!

I dont play Virtua Tennis... i am one of those old timmers who plays in the courts...

but i would have one advice for you: YOu are being slapped left and right by all sorts of posters in every thread you enter... does it give you a clue?

my guess: NO.. you are to dumb to achieve such depth of racionality...
 
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