Who will lead the h2h in the Djokovic-Sinner rivalry?
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inflation_era
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NextGen is still the lost gen until they have captured all of the slams in a calendar year.
dking68
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Generational talent yes
messiahrobins
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Djokovic leads 4-3 as of now. Id say it depends who wins their next match.
For the first time in over a decade im actually excited about tennis outside slams as there is alot on the line for a few players and interesting little rivalries
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Nah, don’t forget Sinner and Alcaraz are all part of the “weak era”
dking68
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1990s era head to head against Nole
Djokovic vs Thiem. 7-5
Djokovic vs Zverev 8-4
Djokovic vs Medvedev 10-5
Djokovic vs Tsitsipas 11-2
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Depends on how long Djokovic sticks around. If he continues on for another 3 years or more, Sinner will overtake and extend the lead significantly. If Djokovic calls it quits by the end of next year, he could potentially have a lead in their H2H record. Of course, Sinner could take the lead by mid year this year and keep it forever as well. We'll see.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Actually, the arrival of Sinner and Alcaraz will mark the end of one of the weakest eras ever. The bring a new era upon tennis and it's all back to normal now. If they fulfill their potential and Rune and a few other guys follow, we could even have a strong era, potentially.
You can bet their next meeting is going to be very interesting.
But when Djokovic was beating Sinner in slams he was a mug ? Djokovic being so mentally strong and adapting his game has people thinking these young players aren’t that good.
Carlos and Sinner are the real deals and Rune will come good too. People forgot that Fed at all there ages had no slams and Djokovic had one.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Until last year, Sinner was just not mature enough to beat Djokovic at slam level. He is still young and improving, and he himself mentioned that playing Djokovic so often at the end of last year helped him. You have to remember, Alcaraz and Sinner, especially Alcaraz, are still improving young players. Sinner probably is in his prime years now and Alcaraz, being an early bloomer, will enter his prime sometime this year or next year. Also, Federer was somewhat of a late bloomer because he couldn't get his head together in his early career. He was seen as a player with potential, but it took him longer to mature mentally. Nadal and Djokovic benefited from the presence of Federer and they were focused from very early in their respective career. They themselves have mentioned how Federer's presence influenced their tennis, served as motivation.
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I agree with mostly all of that. This is why I still have high hopes for Rune as I feel it will just come together for him at 22 or so he had the tools.
Of course Fed was huge for both as he set the bar so high then Nadal came along and set the bar on clay. Nadal and Federer is the reason Djokovic has 24 slams as if they weren’t around I don’t think he wins as much as they were better than him up until he was 23 so he changed his diet and worked everything around fitness and improving.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Indeed. Djokovic in early his career had extremely strong desire to be as great a player as Fedal, and to his credit, he now has surpassed them both in achievements. Now that he has no more targets, he may slow down rather quickly. I also hope Rune gets everything right and join in the mix and form a new Big 3 or whatever. That will be interesting.
Yeah that is why you take away Djokodal Fed wins 30-35 slams. But take away Fed and Nadal I don’t think Djokovic even wins 24 he would have been comfortable being #1 and not much motivation to improve.
Yeah have high hopes for Rune hope it comes together for him
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Sinner , Sinner will retire Djokovic.
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Oh! So… it’s only a strong era if they beat Novak, BUT if they lose then it’s still a weak era.
Can’t make this BS up SMH
Little child “logic”
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Could you list all the players in Novak’s history that that have a positive H2H on him?
A better metric is over 5 matches else 1-2 fluke wins become quite important.
Roddick has +ve h2h over Djokovic. I think it’s 5-4.
Some one else too. Don’t remember though. Lol
jackson vile
G.O.A.T.
Sounds like there’s a little to none, maybe someone else can try annd and tell us if someone else in the history of Novak’s professional career that has a positive head to head on him?
Ya. I can guarantee you that since 2011 - no one has a +ve h2h over Djokovic over 5 matches. Before that - the glutenovic had probably a few players who beat him. Probably Hewitt too.
chjtennis
G.O.A.T.
Oh! So… it’s only a strong era if they beat Novak, BUT if they lose then it’s still a weak era.
Can’t make this BS up SMH
Little child “logic”
So, you think the era of 2017-2022 was not weak? That actully is BS. Novak has shown signs of declining for the past few years, yet there were no young players who could challenge him and beat him on a regular basis. The toughest challenge to Novak was 38 yo Fed. That's a serious problem. Sinner and Alcaraz have arrived at least 5 years too late. There were no new legend level players after Djokovic, Nadal and Murray for over a decade. That's a big void. I don't know why that is even difficult to see.
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