Who would win a Wimbledon match between peak Federer and peak McEnroe.

[captainajitsparrow]

What do you guys think? Who would win a Wimbledon match between Federer of 2004 or 2006 and McEnroe of 1984.

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[BadBoy666]

Which grass? What equipment?

 

[EloQuent]

Connors in 5

 

[Jonesy]

Stupid thread, this is like comparing Kyrgios to Hewitt.

 

[captainajitsparrow]

Stupid thread, this is like comparing Kyrgios to Hewitt.

Who in your opinion is kyrgios and who is Hewitt??

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[Standaa]

"Untestable question, therefore irrelevant."

 

[Jonesy]

Who in your opinion is kyrgios and who is Hewitt??

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Kyrgios - absurd talent but no will
Hewit - Hard worker with insufficient physical attributes to have a better career

 

[Raining hopes]

PETE.

On a serious note, haven't watched enough of McEnroe to given an opinion.

But know by reading that 1984 Mac might be the single greatest tennis season with highest level from a player.

 

[EloQuent]

Who in your opinion is kyrgios and who is Hewitt??

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/whoosh

 

[EloQuent]

"Untestable question, therefore irrelevant."

were you hacked by sport

 

[DSH]

Masterpiece!

 

[mbm0912]

Djkr.

 

[Standaa]

Masterpiece!

"Try to see the ball" challenge.

 

[captainajitsparrow]

Kyrgios - absurd talent but no will
Hewit - Hard worker with insufficient physical attributes to have a better career

If you are suggesting that McEnroe had no will.
Shut up and go see John's Matches again.

And I really hope for the sake of humanity the other way around...

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[Devin]

Best version of Federer at Wimbledon is from the 2003 SF and F. He played his first and third best grass match there. 2006 is second and has his second best grass performance.

Federer wins slightly, but it would be a tight battle.

 

[Jonesy]

If you are suggesting that McEnroe had no will.
Shut up and go see John's Matches again.

And I really hope for the sake of humanity the other way around...

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Don't be stupid, i just said you can't compare two completely different things.

McEnroe and Fed had completely different equipments in different surface speeds.

 

[heninfan99]

I fear a begal for the Macster

 

[nikshalamov12332]

Anyone who says it would be tight battle is just ridiculous. Mac is so back behind in time in tennis terms that he could only probably get a tight battle with a modern challenger level player.

 

[Ann]

Federer, I actually watched both in their prime.

 

[OldschoolKIaus]

Stich in 4.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

RAFA in 5

 

[waarp]

Ever see that semis Vinci match where her old-school serve and volley game beat Serena? Anything's possible.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Anyone who says it would be tight battle is just ridiculous. Mac is so back behind in time in tennis terms that he could only probably get a tight battle with a modern challenger level player.

Can you imagine the beating Tomic would give Mac on grass?

Would be worse that Wawrinka roughing up Kyrgios in the locker room.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Is Mac using his Dunlop racket or modern equipment?

 

[GabeT]

Does anyone know of any study that compares average speed of the ball in Macs era vs today? Not talking about the surface only but the combination of the surface and racquet and strings.

 

[ChrisRF]

Anyone who says it would be tight battle is just ridiculous. Mac is so back behind in time in tennis terms that he could only probably get a tight battle with a modern challenger level player.

Exactly this! Federer would punish McEnroe’s groundstrokes, especially his forehand as if he’s Mischa Zverev. With wooden raqcuets it would be closer obviously, but Federer would still prevail I think.

Surely, nostalgic fans will say “You’ve never seen McEnroe play”, but I have watched his Slam finals and more matches against Borg/Connors/Becker etc. And he was great indeed, but it was game over for him when the new power game arrived with guys like Becker. Times have changed a lot back then (in style and equipment), so nothing wrong with it.

 

[big ted]

hard to say but i think:
if they played with wood? federer
graphite? federer
old grass? federer
new grass? federer

 

[RaulRamirez]

Stich in 4.

Hey, I got it...

 

[Harry_Wild]

I think Sampass is the right answer!

 

[RaulRamirez]

Count me among those who remember watching that match. I'm guessing that this was the most one-sided match between them in their heated rivalry. Mac was brilliant that day, and his serve and volley skills haven't been matched by many over the years.

It's so hard to compare eras via hypothetical matches. The game has progressed, and Federer has more overall skills than Mac, and is bigger, stronger and a little faster. Both have incredible racquet skills.

 

[flanker2000fr]

hard to say but i think:
if they played with wood? federer
graphite? federer
old grass? federer
new grass? federer

If they played with wood, it would be Mac, and the score wouldn't even be close.

 

[flanker2000fr]

Exactly this! Federer would punish McEnroe’s groundstrokes, especially his forehand as if he’s Mischa Zverev. With wooden raqcuets it would be closer obviously, but Federer would still prevail I think.

Surely, nostalgic fans will say “You’ve never seen McEnroe play”, but I have watched his Slam finals and more matches against Borg/Connors/Becker etc. And he was great indeed, but it was game over for him when the new power game arrived with guys like Becker. Times have changed a lot back then (in style and equipment), so nothing wrong with it.

Wood would mostly negate Fed's best shot: topspin forehand. And he would find it hard to impart any kind of speed on the backhand. Mac grew up with wood, his strokes were perfectly suited to that technology, so in my view Mac would prevail, quite easily.

 

[RudyHuxtable]

Stupid thread, this is like comparing Kyrgios to Hewitt.

Hewitt in 4.