Who would win out if these two players?
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3loudboys
G.O.A.T.
Depends on who plays better on the day. Generally speaking though the player with better serve and return should have an advantage as those shots set up the points and allow for control of the point from the get go. Big serves or returns should allow the player to get on the fh and dominate.
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zill
Legend
Can happen couldn’t it?
BallBag
Professional
Like if you miss ground strokes on purpose?
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
It can on TT where tennis is discussed and not played!
Player with 5.0 serve and 5.0 return will win by 6-0 6-0 (as long as the skill level holds up that day).
How? 5.0 serve won't loose any service games to 4.0 returner. 5.0 returner will win every return game against 4.0 server. With 5.0 groundstrokes and volleys, he might win a few points against 4.0 gs and volleyer, but will not be able stitch together a game.
S&V-not_dead_yet
Talk Tennis Guru
- Is it a leap year?
- What color is the vibration dampener?
- Did he put his bag on the bench?
C'mon: you've got to dig a little!
BallBag
Professional
Its taken, I would be willing to trade for 5.0 serve and Kyrgios tweener.If that happens the player will immediately assume TT username called called BallBag
Many variations exist - ba11Bag, Bal1Bag, BollBag, Bo1lBag, BallBog, BallBug - you get the idea.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Reported for sarcasm.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Reported for intentional ridicule.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Reported for questioning an improbable scenario!
Talked about this the other night. I played a big server and he noted that I made 100% of backhand returns and nearly all forehand, while crushing some of his best serves.
In general, I'm not that good off the ground, mostly because I'm not as fast as I used to be, but also because of depth perception. On the serve depth perception is less important .. unless you're trying the sabre.
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S&V-not_dead_yet
Talk Tennis Guru
Me? "Sarcastic"? You cannot be serious!
S&V-not_dead_yet
Talk Tennis Guru
Your league allows edged weapons? Kinda dangerous, no?
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Weapons promote violence. Reported for raising a topic about violence.
Reported for reporting - only fair thing here.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
That kind of describes me.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
No, it doesn’t. Sorry, but your groundstrokes are better than 4.0.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
My backhand, yes. But I was referring to my forehand wing. My topspin forehand as a stand-alone shot is actually not better than 4.0 (remember, you were out-hitting me when we played straight-ahead half-court baseline points to take lateral movement out of the picture). My forehand slice return is pretty solid though, and gets more impressive the higher the level of the serve.
mad dog1
G.O.A.T.
Exactly. So that’s not exactly 4.0, buddy. If it was a 4.0 fh, it would get abused and it doesn’t. Happy new year, my friend!
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Consider the case of a slicer. My forehand was lousy, but I was pretty decent at getting the ball back with good accuracy with a chip forehand. A few years ago, I committed fully to the forehand slice on that wing on every single return. My forehand return got really good after that -- the bigger the serve, the better I was. The higher the bounce, and the easier it is for me to hit down on my slice return with more power. I actually like hard heavy serves because I can use the power. In singles I am now actually equally confident returning on both wings. But my topspin forehand is still relatively lousy, and I try to avoid getting in cross-court forehand rallies against good players.
S&V-not_dead_yet
Talk Tennis Guru
On your FH, do you switch to TS for passing shots?
Stevie Johnson, for example, hits most BHs with slice but switches to TS when the opponent comes to the net.
Fugazi
Professional
Blocked for reporting the reporters.
IowaGuy
Hall of Fame
Santoro is a good example from the FH wing - normally sliced, but would hit TS passing shots.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Yes. Passes with flattish topspin drive. But in rallies I usually either loop high and deep or slice.
princemidplus
Semi-Pro
Sounds similar to me. I tend to slice aggressively on FH return of serves. Less margin for erro than a big topspin FH return. If I have more time I go topspin. BH is more reliable so I have a swing on that side.
I found it is better to make more returns deep overall rather than hit one or two topspin winners and miss a lot more.
I also seldom have cross court FH rallies. I usually soak up power and redirect on my FH and attack off the BH wing. I'm better on inside out FH though as I usually play add court in doubles
S&V-not_dead_yet
Talk Tennis Guru
Got it. I'll keep that in mind if we ever play!
ontologist
New User
Lol this isn’t how ntrp ratings work. you can be a level and have a weak shot, but that doesn’t make the shot a lower rating. Being a 4.0 is based on match results, not quality of a particular shot
Benoit Kyrgios
Rookie
Bad footwork for example
