Why Djoker entered between 8 greats and Agassi not .

[KG1965]

DJOKOVIC
8 Majors
24 Master1000
4 YEC
TOTAL 36

LENDL
8 Majors
45 great titles no-majors
TOTAL 53

MCENROE
7 Majors (but missing 5 Australian Open)
39 great titles no-majors
TOTAL 46

AGASSI
8 Majors
17 Master1000
1 YEC
TOTAL 26

My conclusion:

Majors :
Mac > Djokovic = Agassi > Lendl
The majors in the period Lendl & Mac was as follows :
Level 1 - W & US Open ("World championships")
Level 2 - RG
Level 3 - Australian Open
Lendl won only three US Open Level 1 while Mac won all 7 ( 4 US + 3 W ) .

Great titles no-majors:
Lendl > Mac >> Djokovic >>> Agassi
Djoker is extraordinary in Master1000 + YEC but Lendl and Mac were superior .

TOTAL (Majors + other great titles)
Lendl = McEnroe >> Djokovic >>> Agassi

I think Nole will exceed them between two or three years.
But now Mac and Landl are front and not a little .

Djokovic entered law between 8 greatest Open Era ( with Nadal , Lendl , Connors , Mac , Borg , Federer and Sampras ) .

Agassi not.

 

[Gizo]

Also Djokovic was the best player in the world in 2011, 2012 and 2014. Agassi was 'only' the best player in the world in 1999, when he benefited greatly from an on-fire Sampras getting injured and missing the US Open.

 

[Incognito]

Yeah, but Agassi has won all the majors. those 3 have not!!

 

[timnz]

DJOKOVIC
8 Majors
24 Master1000
4 YEC
TOTAL 36

LENDL
8 Majors
45 great titles no-majors
TOTAL 53

MCENROE
7 Majors (but missing 5 Australian Open)
39 great titles no-majors
TOTAL 46

AGASSI
8 Majors
17 Master1000
1 YEC
TOTAL 26

My conclusion:

Majors :
Mac > Djokovic = Agassi > Lendl
The majors in the period Lendl & Mac was as follows :
Level 1 - W & US Open ("World championships")
Level 2 - RG
Level 3 - Australian Open
Lendl won only three US Open Level 1 while Mac won all 7 ( 4 US + 3 W ) .

Great titles no-majors:
Lendl > Mac >> Djokovic >>> Agassi
Djoker is extraordinary in Master1000 + YEC but Lendl and Mac were superior .

TOTAL (Majors + other great titles)
Lendl = McEnroe >> Djokovic >>> Agassi

I think Nole will exceed them between two or three years.
But now Mac and Landl are front and not a little .

Djokovic entered law between 8 greatest Open Era ( with Nadal , Lendl , Connors , Mac , Borg , Federer and Sampras ) .

Agassi not.

Wouldn't you add Stratton mountain and the Tournament of champions (both in 1988) to Agassi's list of great titles?

 

[KG1965]

Wouldn't you add Stratton mountain and the Tournament of champions (both in 1988) to Agassi's list of great titles?

I have better control but I would say that both Stratton F.Hills be added as you rightly observe .
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AGASSI
8 Majors
19 Master1000
1 YEC
TOTAL 28

 

[B Cubed]

I'd still put Agassi in there. As many stated, when he won wimbledon, it was still the old style of play, slick, low bounce, and fast. Unlike the way the courts have become in recent years, more compacted dirt, slower balls, and I believe (might be wrong) a different type of grass. He also won the Australian Open on the Ace Rebound, thus his grand slam was on truly 4 different surfaces.

 

[BGod]

Consistency is key here. Djokovic has the quarter and semifinal runs whereas Agassi had giant holes in his career.

 

[mattosgrant]

I would rank novak higher. Higher peak play, higher dominance, higher consistency, in the context of their own eras higher versatility despite not having the career slam (I think it is a ton easier today but that is not Novak's fault). I would already put him above. I cant believe there is some who wouldnt even if Novak had 9 or 10 slams unless he wins the French. That is crazy IMO.

 

[BlackSilver]

Yeah, but Agassi has won all the majors. those 3 have not!!

More luck than anything else, as with all the latest career slam winners. It's nice but ain't anything special IMO.

 

[KG1965]

Andre ciao ciao.

 

[AngryBirds]

Djokovic > Agassi now.

 

[KG1965]

Great win for Djoker.
TOTAL (Majors + other great titles)
Lendl = McEnroe > Djokovic >>>> Agassi

 

[haecceitas]

At this stage of his career Djokovic "palmares" is impressive. End of 2015 he will be once again #1 player. My guess, based on stats, he is already superior to Mac and Agassi and maybe slightly inferior to Lendl (it's debatable). Time is on his side.

 

[mattosgrant]

Should Djokovic win the U.S Open and the Year #1, he will already clearly be above Lendl, McEnroe, and Agassi IMO. Only Connors might he be below. If he wins the French next year he blows past Connors.

 

[KG1965]

At this stage of his career Djokovic "palmares" is impressive. End of 2015 he will be once again #1 player. My guess, based on stats, he is already superior to Mac and Agassi and maybe slightly inferior to Lendl (it's debatable). Time is on his side.

The Djoker's palmares is impressive .
A little more to John and Ivan .

 

[timnz]

Consistency is key here. Djokovic has the quarter and semifinal runs whereas Agassi had giant holes in his career.

Not sure how you figure this. Agassi had 7 slam runner-ups and 11 slam semi-finals on-top of his 8 wins. Sounds pretty consistent to me. Djokovic has 8 slam runner-ups and 10 semi-finals on top of his 9 slam wins. Doesn't sound a lot different than me. What are the giant holes you are referring to?

 

[ajmack]

Djokovic's grand slam results are a little inflated with the surfaces playing so similarly in this era. I doubt he would have three Wimbledons on the old, faster surface.

 

[Gazelle]

Agassi has career grand slam in an era where it was far harder to achieve, Djokovic still hasn't despite having a much easier time. Agassi still head and shoulders above Djokovic.

 

[Pablo1989]

The great titles no-majors are Grand Prix Championship Series, WCT finals and...??

 

[mattosgrant]

Not sure how you figure this. Agassi had 7 slam runner-ups and 11 slam semi-finals on-top of his 8 wins. Sounds pretty consistent to me. Djokovic has 8 slam runner-ups and 10 semi-finals on top of his 9 slam wins. Doesn't sound a lot different than me. What are the giant holes you are referring to?

World rankings from 1991-2000 for instance:

1991- 4th
1992- 9th
1993- 24th
1994- 2nd (but 20th as late as August)
1995- 2nd
1996- 8th
1997- 122 (that isnt a typo)
1998- 6th
1999- 1st
2000- 8th

Yeah that is inconsistent. Good for him reaching 26 slam semis total, but I wouldnt call that amazing for an 8 slam winner over a 20 year career, or a reflection of great consistency at all. Djokovic probably will come within the Australian Open quarterfinal defeat to eventual winner Wawrinka of having that many or more in a row.

I could even post his slam results over a given 5 year period of his choice (no cherry picking just to include his best years, but even if we did that and picked say 94, 95, 1999, 2001, 2002 there would be some ghastly slam results still) he would still show far less consistency even there than say Lendl, Connors, Mcenroe, or Djokovic.