Why the EVERY English commentator

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
Mispronounce the last name of the greatest tennis player ever?

http://nl.forvo.com/word/roger_federer/

It's not that hard to pronounce Fayderer instead of feaderer, right?
I'm pretty sure the german pronounciation is correct, so its more like English 'Fay'. I can understand some commentators making this mistake, but seriously EVERY commentator out there, does this.

Am I wrong on the pronounciation myself?

edit: Why *does
 
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dlk

Hall of Fame
I pronounce it "feh-derer." Are you saying Roger pronounces it "fay-derer?" I realize they're very close.
 

RoddickAce

Hall of Fame
I don't remember if this applies to his first name or full name, but I believe a fan asked him, on his website, whether his name was pronounced the English or French way and Fed replied that he had always pronounced it the English way.

Btw it's pronunciation :D.
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
I don't remember if this applies to his first name or full name, but I believe a fan asked him, on his website, whether his name was pronounced the English or French way and Fed replied that he had always pronounced it the English way.

Btw it's pronunciation :D.

Sorry for the pronunciation mistake. Not a native speaker, but still an annoyance since I'm on an English forum. Sorry for my mistake!

@Dlk: I think his first name is Roger (as in "Roger that", english) but that's because his mom is south african. I don't really know what 'feh' is, but I hear a lot of pronunciations with just a really short 'e' like in "instead" or to "marry". I would think this is incorrect and the pronunciation is like on the german link I send you. This has always been the way I spoke, and the english way has started to annoy me, once I watched more livestreams and other english commentary.

I would love for someone to shed more light on the correct way
 
Mispronounce the last name of the greatest tennis player ever?

http://nl.forvo.com/word/roger_federer/

It's not that hard to pronounce Fayderer instead of feaderer, right?
I'm pretty sure the german pronounciation is correct, so its more like English 'Fay'. I can understand some commentators making this mistake, but seriously EVERY commentator out there, does this.

Am I wrong on the pronounciation myself?

Isn't the forvo.com website a user-edited one? I see no reason to treat it as a definitive source, when Roger himself pronounces it "Feh-derer" (@ 0:26).


Regards,
MDL
 
Here's more confirmation. I found a vid posted during the 2009 US Open, where they had various tennis journalists pronounce the names of players from their own countries. The Swiss journalist's spot begins at 2:59, and it sounds like he pronounces it "Feh-derer" to me.

So that's a Swiss guy talking to the (Portuguese-speaking) Brazilians, which I think eliminates any chance of it being corruption by English speakers.


Regards,
MDL
 

joeri888

G.O.A.T.
Here's more confirmation. I found a vid posted during the 2009 US Open, where they had various tennis journalists pronounce the names of players from their own countries. The Swiss journalist's spot begins at 2:59, and it sounds like he pronounces it "Feh-derer" to me.

So that's a Swiss guy talking to the (Portuguese-speaking) Brazilians, which I think eliminates any chance of it being corruption by English speakers.


Regards,
MDL
Exactly. Federer is very much aware of it being an english ad, so he pronouncs it in english. But I think that swiss guy has got it right.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
If it was pronounced 'Fay-derer' would there not be an accent over the first 'e' to indicate this as in 'Féderer' ? :confused:

The lack of an accent or any other indicator over the initial 'e' is confusing and suggests to me that it is pronounced as I and most other English speakers pronounce it.

Still I would hesitate to argue with the way the Swiss pronounce it. Fay-derer is after all, one of their own!

How do other countries apart from Switzerland and the English-speaking ones pronounce it then?
 
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niff

Legend
If it was pronounced 'Fay-derer' would there not be an accent over the first 'e' to indicate this as in 'Féderer' ? :confused:

The lack of an accent or any other indicator over the initial 'e' is confusing and suggests to me that it is pronounced as I and most other English speakers pronounce it.
German words don't use acute e. Only umlaut, even then not using the e vowel.

I would think of it as tomato, tomato... :p
 
Exactly. Federer is very much aware of it being an english ad, so he pronouncs it in english. But I think that swiss guy has got it right.
Still I would hesitate to argue with the way the Swiss pronounce it. Fay-derer is after all, one of their own!

:confused:
Uhh... wha?? It sounds to me like the Swiss journo uses the "English" pronunciation, albeit with a thick accent.*


Regards,
MDL

*"Feh-derer" is my way of writing the English pronunciation. The German one I'd write as "Fay-derer"
 

sdont

Legend
I think I heard her say "Fee - derer". Also , i think she said Roger in a very French way, I mean the first R was very much like the R in Paris. (discl: I don't know French or any Euro language, btw)

Not at all. The 'g' would be pronounced differently and the last 'r' not pronounced at all in French.
 

Starfury

Hall of Fame
I think I heard her say "Fee - derer". Also , i think she said Roger in a very French way, I mean the first R was very much like the R in Paris. (discl: I don't know French or any Euro language, btw)

So in other words: it sounds very French because the R sounds like the R in the English pronunciation of the French capital ;)

The lady pronounced it pretty much perfectly.
 

pound cat

G.O.A.T.
Mispronounce the last name of the greatest tennis player ever?

http://nl.forvo.com/word/roger_federer/

It's not that hard to pronounce Fayderer instead of feaderer, right?
I'm pretty sure the german pronounciation is correct, so its more like English 'Fay'. I can understand some commentators making this mistake, but seriously EVERY commentator out there, does this.

Am I wrong on the pronounciation myself?

edit: Why *does

The correct prounciation of his name is FAYderer. (Swiss German). The English misppronouce not only people's names but every capital city in the world,,,except for Ottawa which should actually be prounced O DAH wa (Ojibwe language. It's an English speaking thing,,,gives the idea that we really don't care how you say it, we will prounce things to suit us. and no non English speaking person can prounce half the names of towns in England eg Warwick is pronounced Warrik
 
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