Will Stan Wawrinka be remembered as the Y. E. Yang of tennis?
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FreeBird
Legend
Hello Mr. Midaso, how are you feeling now after your indefinite trolling? :twisted: You reap what you sow.
Time will tell but I did think of exactly this.
If Nadal starts to lose finals, starts to drop sets left and right, especially on clay, then I think so. It's still a big stretch to think that will happen.
But golf IS different. Tiger used to always win with the lead. That loss gave confidence to the field. Now nobody is afraid anymore. It's very hard to make the same parallel with tennis because the score is reset for every match.
I definitely think some players are seeing an opportunity here. Whether they can execute is a different matter.
If Nadal starts to lose finals, starts to drop sets left and right, especially on clay, then I think so. It's still a big stretch to think that will happen.
But golf IS different. Tiger used to always win with the lead. That loss gave confidence to the field. Now nobody is afraid anymore. It's very hard to make the same parallel with tennis because the score is reset for every match.
I definitely think some players are seeing an opportunity here. Whether they can execute is a different matter.
Fugazi
Professional
No, because Yang had to beat the GOAT when he won his major title.
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014
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Could well be. Now all we need is a fire hydrant...
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014
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naslamchamp
Banned
No. Random winners are typical in golf. In tennis they are not. Winning a slam in tennis in this era totally dominated by only 3 or 4 men will forever hold him in high esteem, just like Del Potro.
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FedererWinsWimbledon2014
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Nadal currently struggling mentally, just like Tiger.
Yang/Wawrinka broke the aura of invincibility. Players now believe they can win. Without belief you are beat before it starts.
We have to wait till the French to see.
Yang/Wawrinka broke the aura of invincibility. Players now believe they can win. Without belief you are beat before it starts.
We have to wait till the French to see.
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West Coast Ace
G.O.A.T.
a) Eldrick wasn't struggling when YEY beat him; b) 1 AO winner Nadal was hardly ever considered invincible there. Except for his fanboys who always write off his losses to injury.
Long Face
Semi-Pro
Golf IS a sport
in which you can be beat by a little fat girl and know you still have no chance to win the next time, or in the next 5 years.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
No, because few people will understand the comparison. Other than a handful of hardcore golf fans, no one will recall who Y.E. Yang is.
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I always think people get this wrong.
Golf is an enormous sport. A very popular sport. Nearly anything can be done "for sport", engaged in through serious competitions. Bass fishing is a sport, competitive eating is a sport. Poker can be a sport. Bowling is a sport.
I think what people want to say is that golfers are not "real" or "elite" athletes. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with this, but it would make much more sense. "Track and field" in the Olympics is (or at least was) officially called "Athletics" and that makes sense since the skills on display in track and field match what most of us think of when we think of elite athletes - freakish speed, strength and/or endurance. Further, those traits are absolutely essential to success. Sure, there are buff golfers who played other sports and are indeed good athletes, but, it is not absolutely necessary in golf to be a great athlete to be successful.
But, many of us generally associate "sports" with "athletes" instead of more accurately "sports" with "sportsmen" (which would include athletes and non athletes depending on the sport).
mental midget
Hall of Fame
you don't need to run fast or jump high to play golf, but if your definition of an athlete includes exceptional hand-eye coordination i think it's fair to say pro golfers are great athletes in that regard. most of the guys i know who are excellent golfers happen to be exceptional athletes all-around, and i'm sure it's even more so at the professional level. to get to that level you need to have something special, beyond just thousands of reps.
