Would you play with someone like this?

[happyloman]

Background:

There's a website where one can find hitting partners for rallies, matches, etc.
I played against this player (in June) from that website and won 6-4, 6-3 (it was his idea to play the match, I was thinking of just hitting around)

Come July, I got around to posting the scores on the site (players are given 30 days to update match scores of matches played). I post scores on that site regardless of won/loss result, by the way, just so that future new partners can use it to determine playing level compatibility. I'm something like 60% won right now.

Today I got an angry email from the hot head (copy and paste below)

"That's strange, I don't remember playing yesterday? How did you beat me? I am free today if you want to really see if you can beat me, doubt it but you can at least try before you post some bs scores text me and let's play for real"

(The website does not let one enter the date of when the actual match was played, it only uses the date of when the scores were updated)
Anyways, I don't really like playing hotheads with such angry personalities. (Not to mention cluelessness)

The email just illustrates how difficult it is to find a decent partner.

By the way, after the first match, I had invited him to play doubles (I didn't enjoy the singles match and needed a last minute 4th) and the guy was kind of rude (no response of either a simple "yes" or "no)

Do you enjoy playing against players who are so angry??

Edit: i just saw that Hothead (and delusional player) just changed the score on the website so that it appears as if he won the match by bagels!


Wow. SMH.

 

[5sets]

Oh my goodness. I think I know which tennis site you are referring to and I have a funny story about that as well. I have since switched my account to inactive but there was a time 2 years ago I would play friends, actually nice hitting partners I met from the site, and we would post our scores as you did. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a loss. Well, we played quite frequently, and sometimes one of sets would go for an hour--i.e 7-6 as opposed to a regulation score of 6-2 6-3.

Anyways since all of us have a life outside of tennis sometimes we would call it quits after one set and just post that. It was then we received some nasty, harassing messages from two or three subscribers who called us 'cheaters' for posting one set scores. We all laughed at this loser and told him if he wants real bragging rights he should play sanctioned usta tournaments.[emoji23]

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[happyloman]

Oh my goodness. I think I know which tennis site you are referring to and I have a funny story about that as well. I have since switched my account to inactive but there was a time 2 years ago I would play friends, actually nice hitting partners I met from the site, and we would post our scores as you did. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a loss. Well, we played quite frequently, and sometimes one of sets would go for an hour--i.e 7-6 as opposed to a regulation score of 6-2 6-3.

Anyways since all of us have a life outside of tennis sometimes we would call it quits after one set and just post that. It was then we received some nasty, harassing messages from two or three subscribers who called us 'cheaters' for posting one set scores. We all laughed at this loser and told him if he wants real bragging rights he should play sanctioned usta tournaments.[emoji23]

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Yes we are talking about the same site!

You cheater! Bad cheater!!!! Lol jk

 

[milk of amnesia]

It's very difficult to find good partners - just scheduling a time and place seems to be impossibly difficult for some people. I suppose that's why people do put up with angry players, at least they manage to show up sometimes. But I agree with you completely; I refuse to have anything to do with angry players. Tennis is my recreation not my job so I get to decide what I'm willing to put up with and angry people aren't worth the time.

For what it's worth, that site you described sounds awful. If players aren't able to record the date that they played or confirm the score their opponent entered then I'm sure all kinds of problems arise.

 

[5sets]

Yes we are talking about the same site!

You cheater! Bad cheater!!!! Lol jk

Going back to the question you asked, it's not worth playing these angry players. There's plenty of decent partners to hit with and it's a much more enjoyable time playing with a friendly, yet competitive person. I've crossed plenty off my list after bad experiences. For instance one guy who kept hooking me [bad line calls] in a practice set. It's bad enough running into these guys in tournaments I don't want to play them in practice as well.

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[Startzel]

Oh my goodness. I think I know which tennis site you are referring to and I have a funny story about that as well. I have since switched my account to inactive but there was a time 2 years ago I would play friends, actually nice hitting partners I met from the site, and we would post our scores as you did. 3 points for a win, 1 point for a loss. Well, we played quite frequently, and sometimes one of sets would go for an hour--i.e 7-6 as opposed to a regulation score of 6-2 6-3.

Anyways since all of us have a life outside of tennis sometimes we would call it quits after one set and just post that. It was then we received some nasty, harassing messages from two or three subscribers who called us 'cheaters' for posting one set scores. We all laughed at this loser and told him if he wants real bragging rights he should play sanctioned usta tournaments.[emoji23]

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To be fair why would you post a score for a match that wasn't actually completed?

 

[5sets]

To be fair why would you post a score for a match that wasn't actually completed?

Because these matches have no actual meaning, its all practice. But yes, thats the argument. But to counter that really what is match? It's an agreed upon set of games between two players. Even usta has short sets---4-1 4-3 scores. If my friend and I are on court for over an hour and finish a set 7-6 why would I not post it? I like to reference it if we play 2 weeks later and he beats me 6-3 6-3. The funny thing is why would someone take the time to send me a abrasive message who me and my friend don't even know?

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[OrangePower]

I would not play with someone who is a jerk. Unless of course I have no choice (e.g. league match). If it's a hitting session or match that I am setting up, then I avoid players I don't get along with.

Then again I am lucky to have a great group of tennis buddies to train and play with. If I was struggling to find good players to play with, I might have to be less picky.

 

[Startzel]

Because these matches have no actual meaning, its all practice. But yes, thats the argument. But to counter that really what is match? It's an agreed upon set of games between two players. Even usta has short sets---4-1 4-3 scores. If my friend and I are on court for over an hour and finish a set 7-6 why would I not post it? I like to reference it if we play 2 weeks later and he beats me 6-3 6-3. The funny thing is why would someone take the time to send me a abrasive message who me and my friend don't even know?

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You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. If these matches don't matter then why even bother posting the results?

As a neutral observer it looks like you were trying to get cheap points on the website. Sounds like you know it was wrong which is why the persons message rubbed you the wrong way.

 

[5sets]

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. If these matches don't matter then why even bother posting the results?

As a neutral observer it looks like you were trying to get cheap points on the website. Sounds like you know it was wrong which is why the persons message rubbed you the wrong way.

Lol, uh oh another angry person. As I stated earlier I discontinued my membership so none of my practice sets are on there to make you feel better, and the creator of the site, a guy named Marinov, posts one set results as well so apparently it's kosher. Have a nice day.

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[happyloman]

Lol, uh oh another angry person. As I stated earlier I discontinued my membership so none of my practice sets are on there to make you feel better, and the creator of the site, a guy named Marinov, posts one set results as well so apparently it's kosher. Have a nice day.

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The website isn't perfect so that's why arguments may arise

For example I played with someone and we split the first two sets and it wouldn't let me post that

The website allows a single set to be posted so ... It's "legal"

 

[happyloman]

You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. If these matches don't matter then why even bother posting the result?

There is no prize or title so that's what he means by the results not mattering.

He may have his own reasons for posting (such as for personal self improvement records/tracking)

 

[Startzel]

There is no prize or title so that's what he means by the results not mattering.

Yeah so it doesn't make sense to add scores for matches that weren't completed.

 

[blakesq]

Sounds like he doesn't know it was you who posted the score, maybe does'nt recognize your name, and feels that you are claiming a victory you didn't win. Just remind him who you are and he will probably be fine.

Background:

There's a website where one can find hitting partners for rallies, matches, etc.
I played against this player (in June) from that website and won 6-4, 6-3 (it was his idea to play the match, I was thinking of just hitting around)

Come July, I got around to posting the scores on the site (players are given 30 days to update match scores of matches played). I post scores on that site regardless of won/loss result, by the way, just so that future new partners can use it to determine playing level compatibility. I'm something like 60% won right now.

Today I got an angry email from the hot head (copy and paste below)

"That's strange, I don't remember playing yesterday? How did you beat me? I am free today if you want to really see if you can beat me, doubt it but you can at least try before you post some bs scores text me and let's play for real"

(The website does not let one enter the date of when the actual match was played, it only uses the date of when the scores were updated)
Anyways, I don't really like playing hotheads with such angry personalities. (Not to mention cluelessness)

The email just illustrates how difficult it is to find a decent partner.

By the way, after the first match, I had invited him to play doubles (I didn't enjoy the singles match and needed a last minute 4th) and the guy was kind of rude (no response of either a simple "yes" or "no)

Do you enjoy playing against players who are so angry??

 

[tennis tom]

Background:

There's a website where one can find hitting partners for rallies, matches, etc.
I played against this player (in June) from that website and won 6-4, 6-3 (it was his idea to play the match, I was thinking of just hitting around)

Is there a way of making it clear prior to the event that you only want to hit/practice and NOT play a match?

 

[dgold44]

Background:

There's a website where one can find hitting partners for rallies, matches, etc.
I played against this player (in June) from that website and won 6-4, 6-3 (it was his idea to play the match, I was thinking of just hitting around)

Come July, I got around to posting the scores on the site (players are given 30 days to update match scores of matches played). I post scores on that site regardless of won/loss result, by the way, just so that future new partners can use it to determine playing level compatibility. I'm something like 60% won right now.

Today I got an angry email from the hot head (copy and paste below)

"That's strange, I don't remember playing yesterday? How did you beat me? I am free today if you want to really see if you can beat me, doubt it but you can at least try before you post some bs scores text me and let's play for real"

(The website does not let one enter the date of when the actual match was played, it only uses the date of when the scores were updated)
Anyways, I don't really like playing hotheads with such angry personalities. (Not to mention cluelessness)

The email just illustrates how difficult it is to find a decent partner.

By the way, after the first match, I had invited him to play doubles (I didn't enjoy the singles match and needed a last minute 4th) and the guy was kind of rude (no response of either a simple "yes" or "no)

Do you enjoy playing against players who are so angry??

Edit: i just saw that Hothead (and delusional player) just changed the score on the website so that it appears as if he won the match by bagels!


Wow. SMH.

Lol

It's like you are being challenged to a fight of death

 

[dgold44]

Tennis players are the most odd and peculiar athletes of any sport

 

[happyloman]

Is there a way of making it clear prior to the event that you only want to hit/practice and NOT play a match?

No, the website does not offer that option

Both people can agree to it at meeting time though. But if someone suggests that they want to play a match, then they should not be surprised that the scores are posted (?)

(I've been the person who posted all of my scores regardless of won loss result)

 

[happyloman]

Lol

It's like you are being challenged to a fight of death

Exactly

It's like I feel I need a line judge cause I think the calls won't be any good otherwise

 

[happyloman]

Tennis players are the most odd and peculiar athletes of any sport

I'm starting to believe it

 

[TenS_Ace]

These scores they post MIGHT just affect their take home pay cheque

 

[norcal]

Sounds like he doesn't know it was you who posted the score, maybe does'nt recognize your name, and feels that you are claiming a victory you didn't win. Just remind him who you are and he will probably be fine.

Hopefully this is the case.

That or he's delusional and has a totally different recall of the match (see pomo v dgold). Hopefully that's not the case.

 

[tennis tom]

↑
"Tennis players are the most odd and peculiar athletes of any sport
I'm starting to believe it"

I'm starting to believe it

I don't witness this kind of drama at ping-pong events.

 

[dgold44]

↑
"Tennis players are the most odd and peculiar athletes of any sport
I'm starting to believe it"



I don't witness this kind of drama at ping-pong events.

Always mega drama when it comes to tennis

 

[happyloman]

Sounds like he doesn't know it was you who posted the score, maybe does'nt recognize your name, and feels that you are claiming a victory you didn't win. Just remind him who you are and he will probably be fine.

If he didn't recognize my name he would've written something along the lines of "who are you?" (Or I would think so)

I in fact did remind him just yesterday and he never responded so either he was embarrassed or??

Anyways his reaction in the first email seems a little unstable so I asked the owner/support of that website to delete the scores altogether.

I'm predicting that the unstable hothead might otherwise submit false scores under different usernames, or maybe harass me somehow

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

If he didn't recognize my name he would've written something along the lines of "who are you?" (Or I would think so)

I in fact did remind him just yesterday and he never responded so either he was embarrassed or??

Anyways his reaction in the first email seems a little unstable so I asked the owner/support of that website to delete the scores altogether.

I'm predicting that the unstable hothead might otherwise submit false scores under different usernames, or maybe harass me somehow

Score and money tend to bring out the worst in some people. Since there was no money involved, it's purely about ego: he lost and now feels he has to defend himself [as evidenced by him submitting a double bagel scoreline].

 

[blakesq]

So, let me get this straight. You played a match in June, you didn't report the score until July, the guy forgot who you were, you reminded him yesterday, and he has not responded to you within 24 hours, therefore something is wrong with him. Yet you waited about a month before you reported the scores? Something is not right with the story.

If he didn't recognize my name he would've written something along the lines of "who are you?" (Or I would think so)

I in fact did remind him just yesterday and he never responded so either he was embarrassed or??

Anyways his reaction in the first email seems a little unstable so I asked the owner/support of that website to delete the scores altogether.

I'm predicting that the unstable hothead might otherwise submit false scores under different usernames, or maybe harass me somehow

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

So, let me get this straight. You played a match in June, you didn't report the score until July, the guy forgot who you were, you reminded him yesterday, and he has not responded to you within 24 hours, therefore something is wrong with him. Yet you waited about a month before you reported the scores? Something is not right with the story.

Did you see @happyloman's addendum?

"Edit: i just saw that Hothead (and delusional player) just changed the score on the website so that it appears as if he won the match by bagels!"

Let's say you give the opponent the benefit of the doubt and he forgot who happyloman was and that they had played. Most people wouldn't get extremely defensive and then alter the scoreline. So yeah, it does seem like something is wrong with the opponent.

 

[tennis tom]

This needs to go in front of Judge Judy.

 

[happyloman]

So, let me get this straight. You played a match in June, you didn't report the score until July, the guy forgot who you were, you reminded him yesterday, and he has not responded to you within 24 hours, therefore something is wrong with him. Yet you waited about a month before you reported the scores? Something is not right with the story.

Thank you for conveniently omitting facts and shaping the narrative to your conclusion

1. The website does allow one to report scores up to 30 days after a match. If a person is so ultra competitive and unstable it's highly unlikely he will have early Parkinson's disease about a life and death event (his view) such as a tennis match loss.

2. No, YOU drew the conclusion that he forgot about the match results. The email that he sent does not support your conclusion. If you read the email, his beef wasn't a "who are you? I don't know you", but rather a "I didn't play yesterday" argument

3. I reminded him (giving him the benefit of the doubt) yesterday. Online records show he was online TODAY. Obviously he read the email. He has chosen to not respond.

4. No one said he has something wrong with him for not replying. What I did say is he has something wrong for sending such an angry email in the first place.

5. I left this out of my earlier posts but I knew he was one of "those guys" at our initial warmup rallies : I was feeding him consistent strokes right at him and he kept teeing off and hitting cross court winners. IN THE WARMUPS.

6. You left out that he edited the scores from a loss to a won result ( including a bagel lol).

7. I asked the owner of the website to remove the false score. The owner instead changed the score to me winning (true scores) instead. I emailed the owner again to delete the (true) scores altogether - haven't checked to see if he will do that. (I suspect the hothead will submit false scores on me to retaliate and I'd rather just not deal with it. So I figure just no scores because apparently he doesn't seem like he can deal with a loss)

 

[tennis tom]

This needs to go in front of Judge Judy.

After Judge Judy, it will probably be appealed to the 2nd Circuit, and then to the Supremes--a lot will hinge on whether the next SCOTUS appointee plays tennis or not.

 

[TenS_Ace]

After Judge Judy, it will probably be appealed to the 2nd Circuit, and then to the Supremes--a lot will hinge on whether the next SCOTUS appointee plays tennis or not.

Screw that idea !! I'll wait until Herr Trump tweets about this !!

 

[Deleted member 23235]

to be fair... maybe the guy just forgot you played?
but if he's a jerk, just avoid him,..
life's too short to be carrying everyone else's emotional baggage.

 

[Rattler]

to be fair... maybe the guy just forgot you played?
but if he's a jerk, just avoid him,..
life's too short to be carrying everyone else's emotional baggage.

Adults who act like petulant children and throw their tantrums...don't have time for it on a tennis court or message board.

 

[sureshs]

Background:

There's a website where one can find hitting partners for rallies, matches, etc.
I played against this player (in June) from that website and won 6-4, 6-3 (it was his idea to play the match, I was thinking of just hitting around)

Come July, I got around to posting the scores on the site (players are given 30 days to update match scores of matches played). I post scores on that site regardless of won/loss result, by the way, just so that future new partners can use it to determine playing level compatibility. I'm something like 60% won right now.

Today I got an angry email from the hot head (copy and paste below)

"That's strange, I don't remember playing yesterday? How did you beat me? I am free today if you want to really see if you can beat me, doubt it but you can at least try before you post some bs scores text me and let's play for real"

(The website does not let one enter the date of when the actual match was played, it only uses the date of when the scores were updated)
Anyways, I don't really like playing hotheads with such angry personalities. (Not to mention cluelessness)

The email just illustrates how difficult it is to find a decent partner.

By the way, after the first match, I had invited him to play doubles (I didn't enjoy the singles match and needed a last minute 4th) and the guy was kind of rude (no response of either a simple "yes" or "no)

Do you enjoy playing against players who are so angry??

Edit: i just saw that Hothead (and delusional player) just changed the score on the website so that it appears as if he won the match by bagels!


Wow. SMH.

I checked the site and it shows that you lost 0-6, 0-6.

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

life's too short to be carrying everyone else's emotional baggage.

Hey, nice imagery!

 

[kevrol]

Not sure why the OP didn't just respond back with a message that said:

"We played each other one <insert time of day match was played> back on June <insert date> at <insert specific place played>. Remember I'm the guy who <insert something specific about yourself.>

 

[ChaelAZ]

Do you enjoy playing against players who are so angry??

Not at all. I avoid them.

That said, in league play we have known hotheads like that, and they tick me off, I make it my goal to see just how angry I can get them in matches. So I use lots of lobs, dinks, or make sure I roll balls to them just a littttttttle bit too short. lol. I love watching the implode!

 

[happyloman]

Not sure why the OP didn't just respond back with a message that said:

"We played each other one <insert time of day match was played> back on June <insert date> at <insert specific place played>. Remember I'm the guy who <insert something specific about yourself.>

I did exactly that

Never got a response

 

[Startzel]

Not sure why the OP didn't just respond back with a message that said:

"We played each other one <insert time of day match was played> back on June <insert date> at <insert specific place played>. Remember I'm the guy who <insert something specific about yourself.>

The OP is just trying to bash someone and make himself seem superior. See his "we need new balls" thread.

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

The OP is just trying to bash someone and make himself seem superior. See his "we need new balls" thread.

So how would you have handled the situation differently? I can't see any major fault in @happyloman's behavior.

 

[Startzel]

So how would you have handled the situation differently? I can't see any major fault in @happyloman's behavior.

I wouldn't have posted score a month later. I certainly wouldn't have made a big deal about it on the internet.

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

I wouldn't have posted score a month later. I certainly wouldn't have made a big deal about it on the internet.

You can't change the past: it's now a month later. What do you do differently from happyloman? I would have done just what he did and thought nothing of it. I certainly wouldn't think I'd be insulting the other player.

 

[Startzel]

You can't change the past: it's now a month later. What do you do differently from happyloman? I would have done just what he did and thought nothing of it. I certainly wouldn't think I'd be insulting the other player.

You don't feel starting a thread to criticize a random person is insulting?

 

[S&V-not_dead_yet]

You don't feel starting a thread to criticize a random person is insulting?

Avoiding answering the question, probably because you would have done the same thing that @happyloman did. I certainly can't find fault with posting scores, albeit a month late. Timely is better, of course.

 

[Dartagnan64]

You don't feel starting a thread to criticize a random person is insulting?

People start threads like this on these forums all the time. Why are you picking on this one to tirade about? We've all encountered odd behavior on the tennis court from opponents. Some people like to vent online about it, others don't. If you think it's mean then either point it out in every thread and suggest to a monitor they be deleted, or ignore the threads altogether.

(Of course I'm starting to wonder if Startzel is "Hothead")

 

[Startzel]

People start threads like this on these forums all the time. Why are you picking on this one to tirade about? We've all encountered odd behavior on the tennis court from opponents. Some people like to vent online about it, others don't. If you think it's mean then either point it out in every thread and suggest to a monitor they be deleted, or ignore the threads altogether.

(Of course I'm starting to wonder if Startzel is "Hothead")

He started two similar threads in quick succession. They read more like trolls than real events.

 

[Dartagnan64]

He started two similar threads in quick succession. They read more like trolls than real events.

Personally I thought the new balls story was funny and not at all a troll thread. In fact both these stories are incredibly believable given the other tales told on this board. Every post is going to be horribly one-sided of course, which is why I refrain from badmouthing the target of the OP's vitriol. But otherwise I don't mind people venting their experiences on a message board.

 

[happyloman]

the target of the OP's vitriol.

Good post

Except I have to object to the word "vitriol"

 

[R1FF]

He started two similar threads in quick succession. They read more like trolls than real events.

I opened this thread thinking it was the "new balls" story I'd read yesterday.

Same guy? He seems to attract interesting playing partners.

And no, I wouldnt play with anyone that anal about the balls and I certainly wouldnt meet up with with some random from the internet that had a point to prove. Who knows how that ends up if you win again.... "it puts the lotion on the skin"