Yonex Vcore Pro 97 330 "Navy Blue"

[TennisManiac]

I have a demo strung with poly on it's way. I'm wondering how many people on here are playing with it, or have at least played with it and care to share their thoughts of it compared to lighter players frames.

 

[snoflewis]

i've demoed it, and i found the 310g to be the better stick. i've had the same issue on all of the 330g "wawrinka" frames where the racket just isnt as stable as you would expect looking at the specs. i'm guessing it's because the additional weight is in the middle of the frame rather than the ends, but the 310g isn't that much less stable than the 330g out of the box. it wouldn't be too hard to take the 310g model and add 20g of weight and have a result that is better than the factory 330g model, and i found pretty much any comparable racket to be more stable than the 330g.

 

[TennisManiac]

i've demoed it, and i found the 310g to be the better stick. i've had the same issue on all of the 330g "wawrinka" frames where the racket just isnt as stable as you would expect looking at the specs. i'm guessing it's because the additional weight is in the middle of the frame rather than the ends, but the 310g isn't that much less stable than the 330g out of the box. it wouldn't be too hard to take the 310g model and add 20g of weight and have a result that is better than the factory 330g model, and i found pretty much any comparable racket to be more stable than the 330g.

Interesting assessment. I played with the 310 a few weeks ago and thought it felt great and had tons of control but lacked stability and was very low powered. Hard to believe it's the better stick. I thank you for your opinion.

 

[1HBHfanatic]

all the yonex sticks ive played with, needed a bit of help from LEAD tape at the edges
ime the vcore pros need help at 3/9
the regular vcores and the ezones need help in the corners

but to get back to topic @TennisManiac
I tried it, but I hated the fact that yonex switched to the 16/19 pattern on this model, so I moved on,, its a nice stick
should be at a good price now that the GREEN models are out
if your not unfamiliar with lead modifications, then its a good buy

 

[TennisManiac]

all the yonex sticks ive played with, needed a bit of help from LEAD tape at the edges
ime the vcore pros need help at 3/9
the regular vcores and the ezones need help in the corners

but to get back to topic @TennisManiac
I tried it, but I hated the fact that yonex switched to the 16/19 pattern on this model, so I moved on,, its a nice stick
should be at a good price now that the GREEN models are out
if your not unfamiliar with lead modifications, then its a good buy

I've modified every frame I've ever used in the past 15 years. So I'm very familiar with modifying with lead. I was just hoping I wouldnt have to do that with the 330 as it's already pretty darn heavy.

 

[1HBHfanatic]

I've modified every frame I've ever used in the past 15 years. So I'm very familiar with modifying with lead. I was just hoping I wouldnt have to do that with the 330 as it's already pretty darn heavy.

that's correct
my toughts exactly, I went for the 310s, solely because I like to mod my racquets,, ALL OFTHEM, haaaa
the 330s are heavy,, they have been since i came onboard the yonex.wagon starting from the y.v.tour.gs

i recently tried the green models!!, i had the 310 and the hd, both felt good, solid yonex sticks,, but the HD model was heavy2me (right on the line of what I consider heavy), and later i read that the 330 is a bit heavier than the HD, soo modifying these sticks would need to be kept to a minimum for me

 

[TennisManiac]

that's correct
my toughts exactly, I went for the 310s, solely because I like to mod my racquets,, ALL OFTHEM, haaaa
the 330s are heavy,, they have been since i came onboard the yonex.wagon starting from the y.v.tour.gs

i recently tried the green models!!, i had the 310 and the hd, both felt good, solid yonex sticks,, but the HD model was heavy2me (right on the line of what I consider heavy), and later i read that the 330 is a bit heavier than the HD, soo modifying these sticks would need to be kept to a minimum for me

Yeah, if I find that the 330 needs lead in the hoop then I will likely try the 310 again and put about 6 to 8 grams in the hoop at the 12, 3 and 9 locations and see how it changes the frames plow and stability.

 

[zipplock]

Tried both. Ended up with the 310. The 330 felt heavy and sluggish, was work to use as I got tired. Strung with a leather grip and a tourna grip, my 310s come in at 340 and don't feel heavy or sluggish. Crazy how small weight/balance differences can really affect a racquet.

 

[ProRadTour]

I have been playing with the VCP 330 since it was released. It's an excellent frame, I replaced the stock grip with a Kimony leather, which I think adds to the overall response and feel of the frame. Personally I have found it to be the most well rounded players frame on the market. The frame has a nice pocket without being flexy, directional control is great, and you can really generate spin with this frame. It's nice on slice, just a great players frame.

I find it very stable while also being maneuverable and cuts through the air better than most frames. With the various VCP 330 I have owned I have had a few under spec at 325 grams and unstrung swing-weight of 294. I actually enjoyed the under-spec frames, they were easier to play with but they weren't as nice/stable as the on-spec frames and didn't produce the same heaviness. The ones I am playing with now are 332 grams unstrung and unstrung swing-weight of 302. Strung with with a 1.25g poly, swing-weight is at 334.

So I guess there might be some frames that might be under-spec so people find them less stable than the previous Tour G and Duel G releases. I had the Tour G, and I agree it was more stable, however it was also a lot harder to generate RHS, it didn't cut through the air like the VCP 330. I just recently got my hands on a Duel G 330, so I can compare, and the strung swing-weight was 341, static weight was also at 335 unstrung. So again I get the references to the older models being more stable, however they are also over-spec.

Also had the 310, it's also a great frame, but you really need to mess around with lead to get it close to the 330 and even then it still doesn't really compare. If you can handle the weight and have the mechanics, IMHO the 330 is the better frame.

I pretty much try most of the players sticks as they come out, I still prefer the VCP 330. Also, I don't modify them in anyway, which is just another reason I enjoy them. I can string them add an over-grip and ready to go. Yonex QC is great overall, but there are swing-weight variances on occasions.

 

[A_Instead]

To me Yonex 330 was similar to the RF97..maybe a tad easier to swing...
But it still requires effort that I can't achieve anymore..

 

[TennisManiac]

I have been playing with the VCP 330 since it was released. It's an excellent frame, I replaced the stock grip with a Kimony leather, which I think adds to the overall response and feel of the frame. Personally I have found it to be the most well rounded players frame on the market. The frame has a nice pocket without being flexy, directional control is great, and you can really generate spin with this frame. It's nice on slice, just a great players frame.

I find it very stable while also being maneuverable and cuts through the air better than most frames. With the various VCP 330 I have owned I have had a few under spec at 325 grams and unstrung swing-weight of 294. I actually enjoyed the under-spec frames, they were easier to play with but they weren't as nice/stable as the on-spec frames and didn't produce the same heaviness. The ones I am playing with now are 332 grams unstrung and unstrung swing-weight of 302. Strung with with a 1.25g poly, swing-weight is at 334.

So I guess there might be some frames that might be under-spec so people find them less stable than the previous Tour G and Duel G releases. I had the Tour G, and I agree it was more stable, however it was also a lot harder to generate RHS, it didn't cut through the air like the VCP 330. I just recently got my hands on a Duel G 330, so I can compare, and the strung swing-weight was 341, static weight was also at 335 unstrung. So again I get the references to the older models being more stable, however they are also over-spec.

Also had the 310, it's also a great frame, but you really need to mess around with lead to get it close to the 330 and even then it still doesn't really compare. If you can handle the weight and have the mechanics, IMHO the 330 is the better frame.

I pretty much try most of the players sticks as they come out, I still prefer the VCP 330. Also, I don't modify them in anyway, which is just another reason I enjoy them. I can string them add an over-grip and ready to go. Yonex QC is great overall, but there are swing-weight variances on occasions.

Very thorough review. Much appreciated. Are you able to generate sufficient racket head speed on serve without tiring out your shoulder? Also, are you using full poly? Does it have nice pop on groundstrokes without adding weight to the hoop?

 

[Corey Klein]

I too have been using the Vcore Pro 330g for the last year or so. I also demoed the 310g, it was lower powered and a little bit worse at everything to me so seemed pointless. Weight difference isn't that noticeable.

Prior to this racquet, I had been using a Yonex DR98 and a Prince Textreme Tour 100P, I was always fidding with grips and lead and such. Never felt right. The VCore Pro 330 is very easy to swing for a hefty racquet. It has a lower swingweight than the prior Duel G version by about 10 points I believe.

The flex in the hoop is there on volleys and backhand slices, but you're better off choking up on the grip and keying in your technique because adding lead is like a game of whack-a-mole to me. Hope that helps.

 

[A_Instead]

TM...local guy.. I can't think of his name..but you should know him as he is a teaching pro around here who uses and pushes tecnifibre products..
Maybe he has those TF40 and XTC 305 that get praise on TW that you could try...as part of checking under every stone..

 

[TennisManiac]

TM...local guy.. I can't think of his name..but you should know him as he is a teaching pro around here who uses and pushes tecnifibre products..
Maybe he has those TF40 and XTC 305 that get praise on TW that you could try...as part of checking under every stone..

Nik May?

 

[A_Instead]

Yes.. Nik..
What sucks is now that it chilly a frame won't have the same feel as it would in the warmer weather..so what ever you try..it may not feel as good as it's potential..
Indoors to me frames feel different too..

 

[PrinceYonex]

I have both the VCP 310 and 330 (navy blue versions), needed to put 4 grams at 10/2 of the 310 to get a bit more plow. I play the 330 stock, with just an over grip. Never felt it needed lead at all for added twist weight.
Whenever I come back to the 330, I really appreciate its stability and plow. I struggled with its weight initially, when playing multiple sets, but I’ve gotten used to it over time.


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[tlsmikey]

310g here as well. Love the stick but it needed a tiny amount of lead at 10 and 2 to take the instability out of the frame up high. Otherwise, perfect for me.

 

[TennisManiac]

Yes.. Nik..
What sucks is now that it chilly a frame won't have the same feel as it would in the warmer weather..so what ever you try..it may not feel as good as it's potential..
Indoors to me frames feel different too..

Good point

 

[Medicine69]

i've demoed it, and i found the 310g to be the better stick. i've had the same issue on all of the 330g "wawrinka" frames where the racket just isnt as stable as you would expect looking at the specs. i'm guessing it's because the additional weight is in the middle of the frame rather than the ends, but the 310g isn't that much less stable than the 330g out of the box. it wouldn't be too hard to take the 310g model and add 20g of weight and have a result that is better than the factory 330g model, and i found pretty much any comparable racket to be more stable than the 330g.

Just bought the 310 2019 vcore pro. With a leather grip, string and obergrip it has 344g and it is a hammer... no need to buy the 330. 310 great frame

 

[ProRadTour]

Very thorough review. Much appreciated. Are you able to generate sufficient racket head speed on serve without tiring out your shoulder? Also, are you using full poly? Does it have nice pop on groundstrokes without adding weight to the hoop?

No issues with serving with the frame, it's pretty much point and shoot on the serve. Used to have shoulder issues years ago, this frame has never caused issues with my shoulder. Yeah I am using full poly, I string mid to low 40's with the crosses two pounds lower than the mains. I would recommend 46/44 as a starting point for this frame, if you string to high you will have to work harder to generate pace and you won't find much benefit as it is a control stick after all. Frame has nice pop and is really good at absorbing pace also.

 

[ProRadTour]

To me Yonex 330 was similar to the RF97..maybe a tad easier to swing...
But it still requires effort that I can't achieve anymore..

They are definitely similar frames, however I found the VCP to have a much nicer feel. The RF97 has a much firmer response and with the weight and thicker beam you really have to fight the frame to generate spin. The RF97 is slightly more powerful than the VCP, however as a total package the VCP is easier to use and live with. Also 340 grams unstrung is too much frame for most people, it would have been interesting if the RF was 330 grams unstrung and around a 65 stiffness strung.

 

[TennisManiac]

I too have been using the Vcore Pro 330g for the last year or so. I also demoed the 310g, it was lower powered and a little bit worse at everything to me so seemed pointless. Weight difference isn't that noticeable.

Prior to this racquet, I had been using a Yonex DR98 and a Prince Textreme Tour 100P, I was always fidding with grips and lead and such. Never felt right. The VCore Pro 330 is very easy to swing for a hefty racquet. It has a lower swingweight than the prior Duel G version by about 10 points I believe.

The flex in the hoop is there on volleys and backhand slices, but you're better off choking up on the grip and keying in your technique because adding lead is like a game of whack-a-mole to me. Hope that helps.

Thanks for your thoughts between the two VCPs.

 

[A_Instead]

Even the balls feel like bricks when temps drop below 60..

 

[TennisManiac]

Even the balls feel like bricks when temps drop below 60..

I know. Hopefully we still have a few days that are above 60 so I can get in a good demo of this one.

 

[Eastman]

A question to those who have hit with both the navy and the emerald version: How much do they differ in terms of manoeuvrability and comfort? Thanks.

 

[joah310]

They are definitely similar frames, however I found the VCP to have a much nicer feel. The RF97 has a much firmer response and with the weight and thicker beam you really have to fight the frame to generate spin. The RF97 is slightly more powerful than the VCP, however as a total package the VCP is easier to use and live with. Also 340 grams unstrung is too much frame for most people, it would have been interesting if the RF was 330 grams unstrung and around a 65 stiffness strung.

I tried customizing a normal ps 97 to thr rf97 specs and it just didnt have the crispness. It was a bit mushy and it wasn't the best feeling. But it had much improved plow and stability.

 

[Exoticbottle]

Just wanted to add as an ex-user of the 330 that once I tried rackets with more weight distributed to the handle and head instead of the throat I couldn't go back. Felt like the extra weight did nothing.

 

[VaMoose98]

Just wanted to add as an ex-user of the 330 that once I tried rackets with more weight distributed to the handle and head instead of the throat I couldn't go back. Felt like the extra weight did nothing.

Like which do you reccomend that are similar to the 330 but with better weight distribution?

 

[1HBHfanatic]

I have both the VCP 310 and 330 (navy blue versions), needed to put 4 grams at 10/2 of the 310 to get a bit more plow. I play the 330 stock, with just an over grip. Never felt it needed lead at all for added twist weight.
Whenever I come back to the 330, I really appreciate its stability and plow. I struggled with its weight initially, when playing multiple sets, but I’ve gotten used to it over time.


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haaa
this is exactly what I felt when I demoed my y.vcore.tour.g 310 and 330
both fun, but the 330 was heavy for a long match, stable and solid at contact
I opted for the 310 and modified it!, similarly to yours,, haven't looked back since, love the 310s

the newbatch 2019 versions, green, the HD and 330 are serious weights,,
I think I would still preffer the 310, just tried these briefly, more testing needed

 

[ryanholi0]

do you think the new 330 feels heavier than the blue 330? How so?

 

[shapovalovnextgoat]

Not the VCore Pro, but I've been using the Duel G 330 as my main stick for some time now, and it's without a shadow of doubt one of the best racquets I've played with. Super stable, and absolutely crushes the ball. Needs fluid strokes and a bit of effort to swing, but that's expected of racquets in this weight range. Top racquet, would recommend it to anyone who can yield it.

 

[PrinceYonex]

haaa
this is exactly what I felt when I demoed my y.vcore.tour.g 310 and 330
both fun, but the 330 was heavy for a long match, stable and solid at contact
I opted for the 310 and modified it!, similarly to yours,, haven't looked back since, love the 310s

the newbatch 2019 versions, green, the HD and 330 are serious weights,,
I think I would still preffer the 310, just tried these briefly, more testing needed

I've actually gone back and forth between the 330 and 310, each time trying to modify the 310 to feel just a bit more like the 330 but at a lower static weight. I've now got the 310 with 5 grams at 10/2, a leather grip, and a couple grams in the butt (around 345 g static weight). I like this set up, but I still slightly prefer the 330.

 

[phl92]

I just tested the VCore 98 (305g) and liked the Spin potential and the free power you get, as well as the overall easy use of the stick. However I am looking for a bit more touch feel, and control.
I am considering testing 2 sticks more (TW europe allows only 2 at a time):
Which one should I test?
HD 18x20
Vcore Pro 97 310
Vcore Pro 97 330

I am thinking about the 330 might be to heavy, especially if I like to play with leather grip... 310 seems perfect to customize

 

[wangs78]

i've demoed it, and i found the 310g to be the better stick. i've had the same issue on all of the 330g "wawrinka" frames where the racket just isnt as stable as you would expect looking at the specs. i'm guessing it's because the additional weight is in the middle of the frame rather than the ends, but the 310g isn't that much less stable than the 330g out of the box. it wouldn't be too hard to take the 310g model and add 20g of weight and have a result that is better than the factory 330g model, and i found pretty much any comparable racket to be more stable than the 330g.

I tend to agree. Ive never played with the 310g, but I have with the 330g and don’t find it to have the same stability and plow of similarly spec’d Wilson racquets (6.1 95 and RF97). May give the 310 version a try at some point as I’ve generally heard good reviews about it.

 

[Nostradamus]

I have a demo strung with poly on it's way. I'm wondering how many people on here are playing with it, or have at least played with it and care to share their thoughts of it compared to lighter players frames.

this is that new Stan the man racket Vcore. but it is ugly green color. I think the new ezone blows this away.

 

[joah310]

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this is that new Stan the man racket Vcore. but it is ugly green color. I think the new ezone blows this away.

like the green, but it honestly looks kinda wack on stan's 95d

 

[joohan]

Still playing with Tour G330. Needs total commitment (both physical and psychological) as it's not the easiest frame to play with. It delivers big time, though.