You can change ONE match result from tennis history...
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Lleytonstation
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2019 WC tie.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Mark Petchey beats Andre Agassi. Miami 1994.
Third Serve
Talk Tennis Guru
AO 2009 final
This result gives Fed a really good win over a really good Nadal and probably tips the scales a bit in the rivalry. Look at it as Fed "halting" Nadal's momentum that he'd gained in 2008.
It also likely gives Fed a NCYGS from US Open 2008 to Wimbledon 2009, though I do wonder how the very tight Wimbledon 2009 final would play out with Fed playing for four Slams in a row. I'd assume not that differently because he did have the weight of the Slam record on his shoulders on him and still eked out the win, but it's worth debating at least.
The downside would be Nadal never getting his AO which would be incredibly unlucky for someone with that many good runs at the tournament.
This result gives Fed a really good win over a really good Nadal and probably tips the scales a bit in the rivalry. Look at it as Fed "halting" Nadal's momentum that he'd gained in 2008.
It also likely gives Fed a NCYGS from US Open 2008 to Wimbledon 2009, though I do wonder how the very tight Wimbledon 2009 final would play out with Fed playing for four Slams in a row. I'd assume not that differently because he did have the weight of the Slam record on his shoulders on him and still eked out the win, but it's worth debating at least.
The downside would be Nadal never getting his AO which would be incredibly unlucky for someone with that many good runs at the tournament.
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Brian11785
Hall of Fame
Seles vs Graf in her comeback Slam USO 95
Or vs Sanchez Vicaro in the 98 FO right after her father passed away.
Would only need to change, I believe, a single point in each match to change the outcome.
Or vs Sanchez Vicaro in the 98 FO right after her father passed away.
Would only need to change, I believe, a single point in each match to change the outcome.
Lleytonstation
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Deal. We give you that win. However he loses to Anderson in the final. That is part of the deal.
Sambuccashake
Hall of Fame
40-15
Sephiroth
Hall of Fame
Deal. We give you that win. However he loses to Anderson in the final. That is part of the deal.
Rather lose to Djokovic then
R. Schweikart
Professional
Women's FO 89 final.
R. Schweikart
Professional
I tried to visualize how Steffi could lose two sets in the 95 USO final.
Didn't work.
BigServer1
Legend
Wimby 2019 for me and it’s not close.
Sephiroth
Hall of Fame
I'll remember this, trying to take away AO from Nadal
smh and I thought we were cool
Roddickulous1
Semi-Pro
2004 Wimbledon final
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Slicehand
Guest
My lost against a no technique player in a tournament final, i was so angry inside, no one to blame but myself of course, but that really made me upset that day
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
Tough one.
McEnroe v Lendl 1984 French Open Final
OR
French Open Final '06 or '07 to give Fed a CYGS.
Assuming you get to keep all other results the same?
McEnroe v Lendl 1984 French Open Final
OR
French Open Final '06 or '07 to give Fed a CYGS.
Assuming you get to keep all other results the same?
Sephiroth
Hall of Fame
Man...Djokovic fans really digging deep to carve this one out lol
sinnet8020
New User
roddick-federer wimbledon 2009 - really wanted roddick to get that wimbledon trophy once
next up would be wimbledon 2019 final, never really rooted hardcore for fed, but would have loved for him to get that one last big win.
next up would be wimbledon 2019 final, never really rooted hardcore for fed, but would have loved for him to get that one last big win.
GabeT
G.O.A.T.
Another option would be USO07. How much would a win there have changed narratives?
Just change the chair umpire to Carlos Bernades.
The mono excuse would just change dates.
Brian11785
Hall of Fame
Well, she did lose one set 0-6 and could have lost another one had Hawkeye been around at the time to overturn the out call of Monica’s serve at 6-5 in the tiebreaker. Soooo……not hard to visualize, unless one is the blindest of partisans.
martinezownsclay
Hall of Fame
Yes why couldn't the results of both Wimbledon 2009 and Wimbledon 2019 be changed. I am sure even Fed fans would take that scenario in a heartbeat (especialy as he actually has 1 more slam than Djoker then).
socallefty
G.O.A.T.
Recency bias - USO2021 Men’s final.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
Either the 2013 or 2016 US Open final.
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
Roddick winning ‘04 Wimbledon (no offense Fed fans) could have changed his entire career, instead he fired Gilbert and becomes a non-aggressive mug who lays down to Roger whenever he sees him on the other side of the court.
He could have saved American tennis.
Other than that, Federer converting MPs vs ‘05 Safin because I’m tired of hearing how Safin has the highest HC peak ever lol.
He could have saved American tennis.
Other than that, Federer converting MPs vs ‘05 Safin because I’m tired of hearing how Safin has the highest HC peak ever lol.
Kralingen
Talk Tennis Guru
didn’t realize you wanted to see “El Fumando” Daveed Ferrer lift a Slam title vs a tired Djokovic in the finals lol
FEDERERNADAL13
Legend
RG 2006 / 2007 for me I think. A CYGS for Fed in the middle of his absolute prime, and a win against Clay GOAT Rafa at the peak of his powers, is hard to say no to.
Other great options include wimbledon 2008, AO 2009, and Wimbledon 2019.
The thing about 2019 is I don’t think it will do as much for his Legacy as some of the other ones on the list. Sure, an incredible exclamation point on the career, and keeps Novak slightly further away, but I think a win against rafa at his absolute best would do more.
Other great options include wimbledon 2008, AO 2009, and Wimbledon 2019.
The thing about 2019 is I don’t think it will do as much for his Legacy as some of the other ones on the list. Sure, an incredible exclamation point on the career, and keeps Novak slightly further away, but I think a win against rafa at his absolute best would do more.
Spencer Gore
Legend
1980 US Open Final
Borg beats McEnroe, goes to Australia to complete the Grand Slam. The confidence swing doesn't happen so Borg also wins 1981 Wimbledon and 1981 US, chooses not to retire and becomes the slam record holder, finally retiring as the universally acknowledged GOAT just before the 1985 season and the arrival of the graphite bashers.
Borg beats McEnroe, goes to Australia to complete the Grand Slam. The confidence swing doesn't happen so Borg also wins 1981 Wimbledon and 1981 US, chooses not to retire and becomes the slam record holder, finally retiring as the universally acknowledged GOAT just before the 1985 season and the arrival of the graphite bashers.
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Mivic
Hall of Fame
Nah, the mono thing would have just got pushed back a few months.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Butterfly Effect in place: Wimbledon 2008
Butterfly Effect not in place: Wimbledon 2019
Butterfly Effect not in place: Wimbledon 2019
Fedforever
Hall of Fame
The problem with this scenario is, if the result was reversed we wouldn't know the pain ever existed. Fed would have one more title and a glorious end to his career but Djoko is more than likely to break the record anyway.
As tempting as it is to reverse W19, the rational thing is to give Fed a French Open in '06 or '07 thus giving him a CYGS. History would probably have counted that as equal or better to Djoko being +1 in the final count. If Agassi had got to 13 slams his Career Slam would likely have seen him being considered equal or better than Sampras.
Like the silly elbow excuse in 2017...when Fedal were Goating in slams
RaulRamirez
Legend
Way back when, HS tennis match, junior year. 3rd set tiebreaker, and as memory serves, we used a 9-point tiebreaker. Of course, my match went the longest, so everyone was watching the end, and we were 4-all in the breaker. Oh, our teams split the other four matches. I had an easy to medium overhead to win (or lose) for myself and the team. I potted it into the net.
Nobody else cares, but me ..carry on.
As for a real answer, I'm trying to think beyond Big 3, and GOAT talk. Must be many.
Nobody else cares, but me ..carry on.
As for a real answer, I'm trying to think beyond Big 3, and GOAT talk. Must be many.
i really would like to know if seles serve at 6:5 in the first set tiebreak was really out. it looked like an ace, but was called out. maybe the most biggest line mistake in the history of women tennis.
Backspin1183
Talk Tennis Guru
2012 AO final.
Djokovic gets the 2013 semi final win in return (but loses to Ferrer in the final).
Djokovic gets the 2013 semi final win in return (but loses to Ferrer in the final).
Amen786
Semi-Pro
2009 Australia open final
Adv. Edberg
Legend
Edberg - Chang FO final. Had Edberg won that one, which he was heavily tipped of doing he’d be the only one with a career slam in both junior and senior. And his 10th overall senior slam.
FlamingCheeto
Hall of Fame
There is only ONE true correct answer:
Sephiroth
Hall of Fame
Everyone wants to take away the ones Nadal won lol
Can't believe no one is choosing USO 09, how was that not a big blow in the most winnable match for Federer? At least with Wimb 08 Nadal was 2 sets up and AO 09 he played the good tennis
I'd be fuming with USO 09 - 6th USO in a row, Open Era record, 4 in a row too...3 slams won on 3 diff surfaces in 09
Can't believe no one is choosing USO 09, how was that not a big blow in the most winnable match for Federer? At least with Wimb 08 Nadal was 2 sets up and AO 09 he played the good tennis
I'd be fuming with USO 09 - 6th USO in a row, Open Era record, 4 in a row too...3 slams won on 3 diff surfaces in 09
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