Krish0608
G.O.A.T.
Something similar might happen and Rafa's draw might not turn out to be so bad after all. I've seen many many "hard" draws just dissolve. It's all possible. But yes, on paper it's a mighty tough draw.
The toughest draw of all time: Nadal at Wimbledon 2019
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TearTheRoofOff
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Just a bigger version (capy vs possum).
Lleytonstation
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Genius thread, seriously. Build up your guy to have the hardest and best earned slam of all time by going through the ultimate gauntlet. When he wins, he just accomplished the most difficult slam in history.
If he loses, well, it is to be expected as this is the "toughest draw of all time." Simply got cheated by Wimbledon.
Win win. Pure genius.
If he loses, well, it is to be expected as this is the "toughest draw of all time." Simply got cheated by Wimbledon.
Win win. Pure genius.
I agree.Genius thread, seriously. Build up your guy to have the hardest and best earned slam of all time by going through the ultimate gauntlet. When he wins, he just accomplished the most difficult slam in history.
If he loses, well, it is to be expected as this is the "toughest draw of all time." Simply got cheated by Wimbledon.
Win win. Pure genius.
But if Rafa goes through his projected draw and wins, i have to give it to him
mike danny
Bionic Poster
There are several Fed slams from 2004-2007 that had tougher draws than this one.
Lleytonstation
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Anybody who gets through any draw deserves it. Yes, Rafa probably has the toughest draw, and if he wins it all it will be a huge statement. But this draw is not a "tough draw." Maybe this just shows how weak the current field is.I agree.
But if Rafa goes through his projected draw and wins, i have to give it to him
StrongRule
Talk Tennis Guru
I don't think there was a slam in 2004-2007 where Federer faced such a dangerous opponent in the second round.
Sure! I agree its not a tough draw but its a tough early draw for Rafa. Big servers are the worst opponents for him in early rounds, so Nick, Tsonga and Cilic are definelty bad news. Rafa would love to switch with Thiems R1 to R4
Terenigma
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Nadal's draw looks tough on paper but let's be objective here.
R1 Sugita = Ok he will probably win
R2 Kyrgios = Yeah this is a tough match on paper but Kyrgios is in mental breakdown mood this year, I don't think he will hold it together to beat Nadal
R3 Tsonga/Shap = Shap? Give me a break, Nadal will roll over him like pastry. Tsonga is the issue here and he's still old and his best is long past him.
R4 Cilic = Again, on paper this is another tough match but Cilic has been garbage all year and lost to Schwartzman on grass. Hardly in-form and won't be too tough
QF Thiem = Give me a BREAK. Thiem won't even make it this far. I find it hard to believe he will even get past his R1 match and everyone else in this section is cake.
SF Federer = Yup. Tough.
F Djokovic = Yup. Tough.
It's a tough draw but toughest draw of all time? Hardly. Nadal should be beating all of these players routinely but because he's terrible on grass these days we're getting over the top reactions to the draw.
R1 Sugita = Ok he will probably win
R2 Kyrgios = Yeah this is a tough match on paper but Kyrgios is in mental breakdown mood this year, I don't think he will hold it together to beat Nadal
R3 Tsonga/Shap = Shap? Give me a break, Nadal will roll over him like pastry. Tsonga is the issue here and he's still old and his best is long past him.
R4 Cilic = Again, on paper this is another tough match but Cilic has been garbage all year and lost to Schwartzman on grass. Hardly in-form and won't be too tough
QF Thiem = Give me a BREAK. Thiem won't even make it this far. I find it hard to believe he will even get past his R1 match and everyone else in this section is cake.
SF Federer = Yup. Tough.
F Djokovic = Yup. Tough.
It's a tough draw but toughest draw of all time? Hardly. Nadal should be beating all of these players routinely but because he's terrible on grass these days we're getting over the top reactions to the draw.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
Federer will be haunted by their 2019 RG meeting, won't recover in time for the semifinal.
Djokovic will start preaching Amor y Paz and go through unmotivated phase again.
Also, notice the 2010s Wimbledon winners pattern. Nadal Djokovic Federer Murray Djokovic | Djokovic Murray Federer Djokovic _____ ?
Easy peasy.
True Fanerer
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OP loves building up Thiem.
That's what's going on here
That's what's going on here
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StrongRule
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There is no doubt Kyrgios will show up. He always plays his best against Nadal. And why are so many people underrate Thiem? He knows how to play on grass.
TOTLAL NONSENSE! Thiem has never won anything on grass, Cilic is a one slam wonder and notorious choker who has done nothing this year, Federer is or close to 38, Novak should be Nadal's only real threat
Terenigma
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Probably because he's only got past the 2nd round once and his R1 this year is against Querrey. Also i hope you're right about Kyrgios but i just don't see it happening this year. He's been openly against clay and praising grass tho so it would be nice to see him knock Nadal out.
augustobt
Legend
The tournament where he pulled out due to injury literally in the afternoon after the draw came out?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Bolded 1: Beijing 2017 would like to have a word with you.
Bolded 2: Really? Since when?
Dartagnan64
G.O.A.T.
No Servebots in that list. No problem.
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StrongRule
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He played fine in Beijing 2017, but for once Nadal had a very good return and Kyrgios can't really do anything when his serve doesn't give him enough free points. After the first round it was one of Nadal's best hardcourt tournaments, sad it was only a 500.
Thiem has won a title on grass which included a win over Federer. (a pretty bad Federer but still it means Thiem can beat Nadal on this surface). Also reached a fourth round in Wimbledon 2017 and pushed Berdych to 5 sets.
Gary Duane
G.O.A.T.
I'm sure you know that the only reason Nadal drew Kyrgios is that he is the #3 seed.
Lleytonstation
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NK for sure loses round one now.I'm sure you know that the only reason Nadal drew Kyrgios is that he is the #3 seed.
tennisjedi
Hall of Fame
Kyrgios will be extra motivated to win his 1st round match.
He's a bad matchup for Nadal, since the grass is still fast in the first week.
Rafa better do well in his service games because he can't afford to get broken. Kyrgios will be going all in.
He's a bad matchup for Nadal, since the grass is still fast in the first week.
Rafa better do well in his service games because he can't afford to get broken. Kyrgios will be going all in.
Russeljones
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Sugita begs to differ.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
thiem is facing querrey, who yes I know is still playing a tournament it hink eastbourne so maybe there will be fatigue, but i'd still favor querrey on grass over thiem.
to be fair regarding cilic, he wasn't doing too hot in 2017 either, he did get to teh final of queens so I'll give you that but who knows he can turn up for wimbledon
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
I'm sure you know that the only reason Nadal drew Kyrgios is that he is the #3 seed.
lol can of worms opened...or continued
Gary Duane
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There will never be an end to SeedGate. It's gonna go on for years, no?
You have to wonder if someone at Wimbledon found a way to punish Nadal for complaining. After the bad blood between Nick and Nadal, you have to wonder if maybe he's going to go all out in this match just for revenge. Or if Nadal is going to bring it to defend his honor.
Something tells me that if Nick wins his first match there are going to be a lot of people watching this matchup with popcorn.
Standaa
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Damn, Nadal winner of Wimbledon 2019 confirmed.
icedevil0289
G.O.A.T.
There will never be an end to SeedGate. It's gonna go on for years, no?
You have to wonder if someone at Wimbledon found a way to punish Nadal for complaining. After the bad blood between Nick and Nadal, you have to wonder if maybe he's going to go all out in this match just for revenge. Or if Nadal is going to bring it to defend his honor.
Something tells me that if Nick wins his first match there are going to be a lot of people watching this matchup with popcorn.
i mean roofgate is still going on, both from wimbledon and also AO 2018.
lol i think punishment would be if he was in novak's half
Russeljones
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netlets
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Tsonga is really coming in to form and will be a very tough out if Nadal manages to get past Kyrgios, which is a huge IF. Kyrgios plays hard against Nadal and he doesn't put up with his delay tactics when Nadal is returning serve.
skip1969
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This isn't even the toughest draw of all time on paper.
Lleytonstation
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If I am Rafa, it is Tsonga I most worry about.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
If Rafa can make through the earlier rounds and get into the second week, he should be able tonwin his 3rd Wimbledon singles title!
Mark-Touch
Legend
It won't matter. I suggest Nadal loses to Sugita, no?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Raining hopes
Hall of Fame
Nadal's draw is tough but can crumble. However it still doesn't compare to the RIGGED draw at AO 2017
Projected R3 onwards
Berdych-Nishi- No.1Murray- Last HC Slam champion Wawa - Rafael Nadal/Djokovic
That's already tougher on paper than all of Nadal's USO draws combine
( Note : I do agree USO 2013,2010 was so good that the draw wouldn't have mattered. But 2017 ? nah)
Projected R3 onwards
Berdych-Nishi- No.1Murray- Last HC Slam champion Wawa - Rafael Nadal/Djokovic
That's already tougher on paper than all of Nadal's USO draws combine
( Note : I do agree USO 2013,2010 was so good that the draw wouldn't have mattered. But 2017 ? nah)
Stop exaggerating.
Federer is a 20 slam winners, but a 38 years old man is a shadowed of himself. Fed was much better in 2004 Wimbledon when had 2 slams.
Kyrgios is a head case. He could tank or walk of the court if he gets agitated. Talent means nothing if he's mentally fragile.
Tsonga past his prime.
Thiem has done diddly-squat on grass and it's his worst surface.
The NextGen are still incompetent.
Mark-Touch
Legend
Now you say you're pissed,
You cried the whole day through
Well, you can cry me a river, cry me a river
I cried a river over RG.
And somewhere, Kevin Curren is laughing
Stefan Edberg in R4
John McEnroe in the QF
Jimmy Connors in the SF
Boris Becker in the F
WhiskeyEE
G.O.A.T.
While true, he's also capable of getting his head together for 3-4 hours. He does seem to care more when he plays the top guys. Assuming he doesn't d*ck away his 1st round match, I put it no worse than 50/50 whether he's serious or whether Kyrgios the Klown shows up.
Of course, if he did beat Nadal, chances seem high he basically takes a dump on the court in his next match.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Fixing the thread title is disingenuous to the memes it fostered.
augustobt
Legend
Lol. Federer faced Henman in 2nd round of 2006 US Open, as well as the 2nd round of Wimbledon of that year. Henman had made the USO Semi-Final two years earlier. If that's not a dangerous opponent...
And in 2007 Wimbledon Federer's 2nd round opponent was an argentinean mug named Juan Martin Del Potro, followed by another weak era mug Marat Safin. Such easy paths for *********!
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The greatest.
augustobt
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lol at those weak era mugs!
I doubt Roddick would win a set against peak Carreno-Busta or Rublev at 2017 USO.
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