The toughest draw of all time: Nadal at Wimbledon 2019

[Sport]

Nadal already had little chances to win Wimbledon before the draw (last year he was close to win), but with this draw he has literally no chance. Nor would Federer or Djokovic win with this draw. No one can. This is the toughest draw of all time.

Here is Nadal's draw:

1R: Sugita

2R: Kyrgios

3R: Tsonga (Tsonga almost defeated Federer at Halle, and many Fed fans said they did not want to have Tsonga in Federer's draw).

4R: Cilic (Wimbledon finalist, has been close to defeat both Federer and Djokovic at Wimbledon in the past).

QF: Querrey (great serve, Eastbourne 2019 finalist, defeated Djokovic at Wimbledon 2016).

SF: Federer

F: Djokovic

This is the most brutal draw the history of tennis has ever seen. Not even the US Open 1990 comes close to this. Sampras had to defeat Muster, Lendl, McEnroe and Agassi to win the US Open 1990. But Muster, Lendl, McEnroe and Agassi "only" sum 23 Majors between the four, while Cilic, Federer and Djokovic sum 36 Grand Slams between the three. McEnroe, Lendl and Agassi are "weak" ATG compared to Federer and Djokovic.

 

[Sport]

Title should be toughest*.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

The thoughtest draw of all time, or lack thereof, is reserved for this website.

 

[weakera]

Rafa should be allowed to hit to the doubles lines with a draw like this.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Kyrgios will lose R1
Tsonga will lose to Shapo
SHAPO will kill another umpire and be defaulted up 2 sets to 1 on RAFA (@Red Rick )
Cilic will cry again

Crisis averted

 

[tennisaddict]

Nadal was not winning non clay majors anyway. Does a tough draw really matter at the end of the day ?

 

[Lleytonstation]

Of all time? My Lord, tennis really is bad then.

 

[skip1969]

Thread title reminds me of a billboard I once saw, advertising the "Best Hot Dogs . . . on Earth!'

My buddy and I were like, "Oh, really."

 

[Lleytonstation]

I would say about the same draw as Fed had a month ago at RG. Wawrinka and Cilic are the only real opponents, both has to go through the big 3. Thiem is terrible on grass, and that is if he gets there. Only round that can potentially be bad is round 2.

 

[heninfan99]

Even though he has momentum coming in.Rafa my pick.
My dark horse pic is Raonic.

 

[natalia]

 

[NatF]

lol at this being the toughest draw of all time

 

[Silverbullet96]

I have a feeling some names will never be considered 'easy draws' no matter if they're playing like absolute garbage at the moment or they're 2 generations past their prime.
Like complaining about Nadal getting 90 y/o Rod Laver in their draw over Fed who gets Coric.

 

[NBP]

It makes up for the challenger draws he has had in slams in recent years yet it still is not tougher than Fed's Australian in 2017

 

[Goof]

As a Nadal fan, I like this draw. Cilic in the 4th and Djoker in the final are the only potential tough ones I see. Easy quarter and semi at least. Why is everyone freaking out about the second round matchup with Jordan Thompson?

 

[Lleytonstation]

Rafa probably has had 5 tougher draws, Fed about 10, Djoker about 6 or 7. This is ridiculous. Tough draw? Sort of. Toughest ever?

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

I have a feeling some names will never be considered 'easy draws' no matter if they're playing like absolute garbage at the moment or they're 2 generations past their prime.
Like complaining about Nadal getting 90 y/o Rod Laver in their draw over Fed who gets Coric.

LOL

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Kyrgios will lose R1
Tsonga will lose to Shapo
SHAPO will kill another umpire and be defaulted up 2 sets to 1 on RAFA (@Red Rick )
Cilic will cry again

Crisis averted

Federer will be haunted by their 2019 RG meeting, won't recover in time for the semifinal.
Djokovic will start preaching Amor y Paz and go through unmotivated phase again.

Also, notice the 2010s Wimbledon winners pattern. Nadal Djokovic Federer Murray Djokovic | Djokovic Murray Federer Djokovic _____ ?

Easy peasy.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

As a Nadal fan, I like this draw. Cilic in the 4th and Djoker in the final are the only potential tough ones I see. Easy quarter and semi at least. Why is everyone freaking out about the second round matchup with Jordan Thompson?

Marin Cryic confirmed harder than Federer

 

[ACE of Hearts]

If nadal survives round 2,3 , and 4 he will beat whoever in the QFs. The question will be can he survives those 3 rounds.

 

[EloQuent]

Sucks to be #3 seed.

 

[bjsnider]

I'm not sure I'd pick Djokovic to get through the other half. Has he been in a final since Melbourne? He seems lost in space this year.

 

[JasonZ]

His us open 2017 draw was way harder

 

[Breakpointerer]

Lmao just watch it fall apart completely

 

[Red Rick]

You can get harder draws.

For example, you can draw Nadal at RG

 

[Tennis_Hands]

..

 

[Lleytonstation]

Sucks to be #3 seed.

Yeah, surprised there were no threads about it before the draw...

 

[TennisFan3]

Insanely tough draw. Bad luck for Nadal.

Great post OP.

 

[augustobt]

Funny. Tsonga being a 3RD opponent in a 500 was being labelled as weak and nobody by humbralito fans no more than one week ago. Now the guy gets his name even bolded in a thread like this...

 

[Shaolin]

lol at this being the toughest draw of all time

It's not. It's the thoughest! There's a difference.

 

[AceSalvo]

Funny. Tsonga being a 3RD opponent in a 500 was being labelled as weak and nobody na humbralito fans no more than one week ago. Now the guy gets his name even in bold in a thread like this...

Things work differently in VB Land. The only tough one here is KingK, but even that is not a guarantee.

What has Shapo/Thiem even done on grass to merit being labeled as “tough”?

 

[King No1e]

Even though he has momentum coming in.Rafa my pick.
My dark horse pic is Raonic.

Raonic!!!! Finally someone else agrees with me. Yes I think he is a serious contender this year. Anderson and Djokovic should watch out for him.

 

[JasonZ]

After Nadal got so many joke draws in his career it would be only justice if he gets the toughest draw possible in every slam for the rest of his career

 

[Martin J]

His draw was much tougher in 2009, all these players were much younger and in better form. But I guess you haven't watched tennis back then?

 

[King No1e]

Tsonga and Shapo won't hurt Rafa. Thiem is a clay courter.
Kyrgios and Cilic are the real serious threats here. Especially Nick. Probably the worst unseeded opponent for any top player to face.
If Nadal gets through this one and wins, it will for sure be his hardest earned one in a long time.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

His draw was much tougher in 2009, all these players were much younger and in better form. But I guess you haven't watched tennis back then?

Yes, had inform Hewitt, inform Roddick, inform Murray and inform Federer all waiting in succession for him.

 

[Towser83]

Nadal already had little chances to win Wimbledon before the draw (last year he was close to win), but with this draw he has literally no chance. Nor would Federer or Djokovic win with this draw. No one can. This is the toughest draw of all time.

Here is Nadal's draw:

1R: Sugita

2R: Kyrgios

3R: Tsonga/Shapovalov

4R: Cilic

QF: Thiem

SF: Federer

F: Djokovic

This is the most brutal draw the history of tennis has ever seen. Not even the US Open 1990 comes close to this. Sampras had to defeat Muster, Lendl, McEnroe and Agassi to win the US Open 1990. But Muster, Lendl, McEnroe and Agassi "only" sum 23 Majors between the four, while Cilic, Federer and Djokovic sum 36 Grand Slams between the three. McEnroe, Lendl and Agassi are "weak" ATG compared to Federer and Djokovic.

Oh please spare the melodrama...

First, before this you were giving Nadal a great chance to win Wimbledon, now all of a sudden you act like he had little chance lol.

Second, we dknt know he's going to play all these players anyway, they could lose before meeting him.

Third let's look at the players. Kyrgios. Could be tough, could implode. Who knows?

Tsonga- you mean the guy fed beat last week in Halle? I dont remember him being a tough opponent when Fed beat him...

Shapovalov. What's he done again? I dont remember him being a tough opponent when Djokovic faced him in Australia this year.

Cilic. Good player. But hang on, I dont remember him being a tough opponent when Fed beat him at Wimbledon and the AO?

All these players are no better than the guys Fed beat day in day out to win slams back in his prime but they get labeled as weak opponents. Yeat when Nadal has to face these guys all of a sudden they're tough.

Thiem has yet to really prove himself on grass

The only tough part is Fed and djokovic back to back. But Fed also has that problem

 

[CiscoPC600]

Anyone have projected paths for Fed and Djokovic?

 

[Lleytonstation]

Anyone have projected paths for Fed and Djokovic?

Obviously essentially walk overs cause Rafa has EVERY good tennis player in his draw. Duh.

 

[Towser83]

Funny. Tsonga being a 3RD opponent in a 500 was being labelled as weak and nobody na humbralito fans no more than one week ago. Now the guy gets his name even in bold in a thread like this...

Yeah and has Fed got any credit for beating Cilic in slams twice in the last couple of years? I thought he was a weak player but now he's not. Strange that

 

[Lleytonstation]

So NK is considered the toughest draw of all time? Cause that is all I see here that is potentially tough.

 

[Breakpointerer]

Wasn't Tsonga considered weak when Fed beat him at Halle?
Lol at these double standards

 

[Towser83]

I'm not sure I'd pick Djokovic to get through the other half. Has he been in a final since Melbourne? He seems lost in space this year.

He won Madrid and made the final of Rome

 

[Druss]

Nadal already had little chances to win Wimbledon before the draw (last year he was close to win), but with this draw he has literally no chance. Nor would Federer or Djokovic win with this draw. No one can. This is the toughest draw of all time.

Here is Nadal's draw:

1R: Sugita

2R: Kyrgios

3R: Tsonga/Shapovalov

4R: Cilic

QF: Thiem

SF: Federer

F: Djokovic

This is the most brutal draw the history of tennis has ever seen. Not even the US Open 1990 comes close to this. Sampras had to defeat Muster, Lendl, McEnroe and Agassi to win the US Open 1990. But Muster, Lendl, McEnroe and Agassi "only" sum 23 Majors between the four, while Cilic, Federer and Djokovic sum 36 Grand Slams between the three. McEnroe, Lendl and Agassi are "weak" ATG compared to Federer and Djokovic.

R1: Sugita - warm up match (0.5/5)
R2: Kyrgios - if he brings his A-game, then expect a battle (4/5)
R3: Tsonga - washed up, way past his best (2/5)
Shapo - has yet to go past R2, too inconsistent (1.5/5)
R4: Cilic - his form has been questionable lately and doubt he’ll even make it this far, if he does ...(3/5)
QF: Thiem - on grass? Lol... he’s only been past R4 once (USO) outside of RG, I doubt he’ll even get past Querrey... if he does make it that far... (2/5)
SF: Federer - semis are expected to be tough (4/5)
F: Djokovic - first Wimby final between the two since 2011 (5/5).

That’s potentially 3 tough matches, I have seen plenty more tougher draws than that.

 

[Shaolin]

Raonic!!!! Finally someone else agrees with me. Yes I think he is a serious contender this year. Anderson and Djokovic should watch out for him.

A lot of people consider him a threat...we just dont want to imagine the possibility of him making another final (shudder).

 

[TearTheRoofOff]

Yes, had inform Hewitt, inform Roddick, inform Murray and inform Federer all waiting in succession for him.

But he charged in with great courage nonetheless.

 

[Jaitock1991]

A couple of days ago guys were going on about how Fed facing weak opponents like Tsonga at Halle was laughable. Now Rafa is potentially facing him in the third round of a slam and suddenly he is a part of the toughest draw of all time?

 

[Deleted member 77403]

But he charged in with great courage nonetheless.

He looked a lot like Del Potro at that event.

 

[Towser83]

This is the most brutal draw the history of tennis has ever seen. Not even the US Open 1990 comes close to this. Sampras had to defeat Muster, Lendl, McEnroe and Agassi to win the US Open 1990. But Muster, Lendl, McEnroe and Agassi "only" sum 23 Majors between the four, while Cilic, Federer and Djokovic sum 36 Grand Slams between the three. McEnroe, Lendl and Agassi are "weak" ATG compared to Federer and Djokovic.

Also Sampras was 19 in 1990, that was an insane win! Of course Agassi was young too but using sum slams is not that useful. According to that reasoning Djokovic facing fedal at the AO would have a tougher draw than Nadal facing them. Or Federer facing Nadal and Djokovic at RG would be easier than Nadal facing them

Or if Sampras comes out of retirement he's tougher than Thiem because he has 14 slams to 0?

It's only fed and Djokovic that make this a tough draw but they've all had that scenario before, I'm pretty sure at one AO fed was seeded to meet Murray, Nadal and Djokovic

 

[Jonas78]

Everything is relative.

Compared to last year the draw is very tough.

Compared to all draws is tpugher than average, but far from the toughest ever.