Pheasant
Legend
2017 Fed vs 2015 Fed is interesting. If we back off out clay, then:
2015 Fed was 50-7 whereas 2017 Fed was 52-5 overall.
2015 Fed was 13-4 vs top 10 whereas 2017 Fed was 14-2 vs top 10.
2015 Fed had Djoker to deal with. However, 2017 Fed had an in-form Nadal to deal with. 2017 Federer won Wimbledon without dropping a set. 2015 Fed went to the USO final without dropping a set, but then lost to Djoker.
I would call these two years a wash. Fed’s stats off of clay were clearly better in 2017. But replacing an in-form Rafa with Beastovic probably levels this matchup. 2017 Nadal likely exploits 2015 Fed’s backhand and splits matches with him, instead of going 0-4 vs 2017 Fed.
Hypothetical matches don’t amount to a hill of beans. And nobody in the real world cares. Fed in 2017 was not better than the 2015 version of Djoker, or even as good as he was. But 2017 Fed was better than 2017 Djoker and that is all that matters. That is on Djoker for not being up to his best, just like is was Fed’s fault for getting mono on 2008,blowing out his knee in 2016, and destroying his back in 2013.
This whole “lucky” business is just trash talking. If you need to throw luck into the equation to knock down your favorite player’s opponent, then there is something wrong with you. This reminds me of that thread where people were bickering about which player had more of a cakewalk, Djoker at the 2018 USO, or Rafa at the 2017 USO. I could honestly care less. Both players deserved their titles. It was Fed’s own fault that he was injured for Nadal’s side of the draw and it was Fed’s fault for not being in good enough shape to handle the humidity in NY for Djoker’s side of the draw in the 2018 USO. I hold that against Fed. I refuse to call Nadal or Djoker “lucky”. That is disrespectful and simply untrue. Had Fed taken better care of himself in 2017, or been better prepared for the heat in 2018, then maybe things end differently. But Fed screwed up. Fed lost and that is on him.
2015 Fed was 50-7 whereas 2017 Fed was 52-5 overall.
2015 Fed was 13-4 vs top 10 whereas 2017 Fed was 14-2 vs top 10.
2015 Fed had Djoker to deal with. However, 2017 Fed had an in-form Nadal to deal with. 2017 Federer won Wimbledon without dropping a set. 2015 Fed went to the USO final without dropping a set, but then lost to Djoker.
I would call these two years a wash. Fed’s stats off of clay were clearly better in 2017. But replacing an in-form Rafa with Beastovic probably levels this matchup. 2017 Nadal likely exploits 2015 Fed’s backhand and splits matches with him, instead of going 0-4 vs 2017 Fed.
Hypothetical matches don’t amount to a hill of beans. And nobody in the real world cares. Fed in 2017 was not better than the 2015 version of Djoker, or even as good as he was. But 2017 Fed was better than 2017 Djoker and that is all that matters. That is on Djoker for not being up to his best, just like is was Fed’s fault for getting mono on 2008,blowing out his knee in 2016, and destroying his back in 2013.
This whole “lucky” business is just trash talking. If you need to throw luck into the equation to knock down your favorite player’s opponent, then there is something wrong with you. This reminds me of that thread where people were bickering about which player had more of a cakewalk, Djoker at the 2018 USO, or Rafa at the 2017 USO. I could honestly care less. Both players deserved their titles. It was Fed’s own fault that he was injured for Nadal’s side of the draw and it was Fed’s fault for not being in good enough shape to handle the humidity in NY for Djoker’s side of the draw in the 2018 USO. I hold that against Fed. I refuse to call Nadal or Djoker “lucky”. That is disrespectful and simply untrue. Had Fed taken better care of himself in 2017, or been better prepared for the heat in 2018, then maybe things end differently. But Fed screwed up. Fed lost and that is on him.
