Post your new RF97 measurements here: Wilson quality control

asifallasleep · Sep 23, 2016

I'm really enjoying my new RF's as they are so much easier to swing than all my previous first generation RF's----- and I had about 10 of the previous ones.

Now I know why, I measured the swing weight today.

Both frames stock with leather grip, 18g volkl cyclone, wilson overgrip, panda dampener

Frame 1:
Static weight: 358 grams
10pts hl
swing weight: 317

Frame 2:
Static weight: 357 grams
11pts hl
swing weight: 314

They are easier to swing with a little less plow. So this time the quality control variance worked in my favor. LOL. Perfect for customizing!!!

ONgame · Sep 23, 2016

How can yours have such low swing weight?

macattack · Sep 23, 2016

All spec'd pretty much the same. Though I'm surprised how low the swing weight is on all three of them.

2014 white/silver butt cap with Wilson Pro overgrip, rubber band and Hyper G strings
Weight: 364
SW: 325
Flex: 70
Balance: 10 pts HL

2014 red/silver butt cap with Wilson Pro overgrip, rubber band and Tour Bite strings
Weight: 361
SW: 325
Flex: 69
Balance: 10 pts HL

2016 with Wilson Pro overgrip, rubber band and Kirschbaum Pro Line II strings (TW tan leather grip replaced the stock black Wilson leather grip)
Weight: 362
SW: 323
Flex: 69
Balance: 9 pts HL

Anton · Sep 24, 2016

2016 Unstrung stock

Weight: 12.000oz (~340g)
Blance: 11.5 pts hl

Same 2016 Unstrung with grip double wrapped at base to expand buttcap flare:

Weight: 12.000oz
Balance 12 pts hl

Same racket strung (ngut+poly 16g)+og came out to ~12.8oz (363g) 9.5hl swingweight not measured but felt 340ish

Anton · Sep 24, 2016

Seems like pretty good tolerances so far considering OP used lighter 18g strings.

kingcheetah · Sep 24, 2016

I have 5 of the previous ones-- when strung and OGd, I have 2 at 12.8 oz, 1 at 12.9, and 2 at 13.0 oz. The only one that is an "outlier" is a 13.0 oz one with a more even balance, so 4 are not really discernible in terms of weight/sw/balance difference.

asifallasleep · Sep 24, 2016

Anton said:
Seems like pretty good tolerances so far considering OP used lighter 18g strings.

So perhaps if I had 16g strings I'd be close to the Wilson swing weight spec of 335 for this frame? Using the TW customization tool i would need 20grams added at 10 & 2 to up my swing weight to 330. I'm not sure of the weight difference from 16 to 18 gauge string but I'm pretty sure it's not a 20 gram difference.

However, based on what you're saying I guess i'm not that far out of spec?

KaiserW · Sep 24, 2016

How did you measure sw? Those numbers seem way too low even with 18g.

asifallasleep · Sep 24, 2016

KaiserW said:
How did you measure sw? Those numbers seem way too low even with 18g.

I used the following from TW:
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/howto_swingweight.php

ONgame · Sep 25, 2016

asifallasleep said:
I used the following from TW:
http://twu.tennis-warehouse.com/learning_center/howto_swingweight.php

I got 318 for my K90.
I don't think this is anywhere close to accurate.

chikoo · Sep 25, 2016

asifallasleep said:
I'm really enjoying my new RF's as they are so much easier to swing than all my previous first generation RF's----- and I had about 10 of the previous ones.

Now I know why, I measured the swing weight today.

Both frames stock with leather grip, 18g volkl cyclone, wilson overgrip, panda dampener

Frame 1:
Static weight: 358 grams
10pts hl
swing weight: 317

Frame 2:
Static weight: 357 grams
11pts hl
swing weight: 314

They are easier to swing with a little less plow. So this time the quality control variance worked in my favor. LOL. Perfect for customizing!!!

What does the old RF97A measure? I am sure one of the 10 would have been close to this given that they were all over the place??

chikoo · Sep 25, 2016

Anton said:
2016 Unstrung stock

Weight: 12.000oz (~340g)
Blance: 11.5 pts hl

Same 2016 Unstrung with grip double wrapped at base to expand buttcap flare:

Weight: 12.000oz
Balance 12 pts hl

Same racket strung (ngut+poly 16g)+og came out to ~12.8oz (363g) 9.5hl swingweight not measured but felt 340ish

Whoa!
Same weight, but different balance points? How did you manage that?

morten · Sep 25, 2016

All over the place for swingweight the 7 i measured. From 304 unstrung to 335!! Unstrung... some of the worst i have measured in a racket.

asifallasleep · Sep 25, 2016

KaiserW said:
How did you measure sw? Those numbers seem way too low even with 18g.

1/8 of an inch difference in Measurement To Top String during calculations takes it from 317 to 340. Go figure. SMH. So i'm either 340 or 317 swing weight.

Anton · Sep 25, 2016

chikoo said:
Whoa!
Same weight, but different balance points? How did you manage that?

As I already said - double wrapped grip at base to expand buttcap flare. In other words I moved more of grip lower on the handle.

chikoo · Sep 25, 2016

Anton said:
As I already said - double wrapped grip at base to expand buttcap flare. In other words I moved more of grip lower on the handle.

The extra grip did not add to the weight?

Anton · Sep 26, 2016

chikoo said:
The extra grip did not add to the weight?

Not extra grip, same grip racket came with but re-wrapped differently to expand buttcap flare.

KaiserW · Sep 26, 2016

asifallasleep said:
1/8 of an inch difference in Measurement To Top String during calculations takes it from 317 to 340. Go figure. SMH. So i'm either 340 or 317 swing weight.

Yes you have to be very accurate in your measuring.

asifallasleep · Sep 26, 2016

KaiserW said:
Yes you have to be very accurate in your measuring.

I recalculated both frames using a sw ap tool i purchased and the results were 322 for one from and 320 for the other.

Replacing my 18 gauge strings with 16 gauge strings would probably take me to 325 swing weight. I'm happy with that.

macattack · Sep 26, 2016

asifallasleep said:
I recalculated both frames using a sw ap tool i purchased and the tw tool and both are still in the 315-319 swing weight range.

Replacing my 18 gauge strings with 16 gauge strings would probably take me to 320-325 swing weight. I'm happy with that.

I have 16 gauge in all of mine and they land around 325 swing weight. So are all of these 10 off from spec? Wasn't it supposed to be 335?

haqq777 · Sep 26, 2016

Surprised to see the low SW for your sticks. I play tested the new Pro Staff RF 97 Autograph racquet for TW. Here is my detailed review: https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...-rf-97-autograph.569673/page-10#post-10575283

All specs measured by Babolat RDC

Unstrung:

These are the unstrung specs (the plastic on grip/handle was removed)

Static weight: 339g
Flex: 70RA
Swing weight: 305
Balance: 12 points HL

Strung (With OG):

I strung the stick with full bed of Volkl Cyclone 17 @ 52 lbs. The reason I chose a full bed of poly is because I am used to playing with this string a lot, and I feel I would be able to give better feedback/review using this. The overgrip used was Wilson Pro.

Static weight: 359.6g
Flex: 67 RA
Swing weight: 336
Balance: 10 points HL

morten · Sep 26, 2016

morten said:
All over the place for swingweight the 7 i measured. From 304 unstrung to 335!! Unstrung... some of the worst i have measured in a racket.

Bump. .. remember these specs are unstrung. Strung would range from 334 to 365 !!

Anton · Sep 26, 2016

morten said:
All over the place for swingweight the 7 i measured. From 304 unstrung to 335!! Unstrung... some of the worst i have measured in a racket.

Just to clarify, this is for the new black ones correct?

Fxanimator1 · Sep 26, 2016

asifallasleep said:
I recalculated both frames using a sw ap tool i purchased and the results were 322 for one from and 320 for the other.

Replacing my 18 gauge strings with 16 gauge strings would probably take me to 325 swing weight. I'm happy with that.

Curious how long 18 gauge string lasts in an RF97A. I used 16's, and that racquet chewed through them in a matter of a few hours.

asifallasleep · Sep 26, 2016

Fxanimator1 said:
Curious how long 18 gauge string lasts in an RF97A. I used 16's, and that racquet chewed through them in a matter of a few hours.

Try Volkl cyclone. I haven't found a huge difference in durability from the 16 to the 18. I'm getting 16-18 hours with the 18g Cyclone.

morten · Sep 27, 2016

Anton said:
Just to clarify, this is for the new black ones correct?

Yes..

amarg · Sep 30, 2016

Although officially both RF97 versions have the same specs, it seems that the new one has lower swingweight. This is also evident in all twu measurements., where the older version has significantly higher scores, in every category.

Deki · Oct 1, 2016

Has anyone tried to replace leather grip with synthetic grip? Specs? Looking to get RF97 but static weight is a bit too much for me....
Thanks

Nkster · Oct 1, 2016

Strung without leather and overgrip 340g,
strung with leather grip and OG 367g,
strung balance 31.4
swingweight 340

Nkster · Oct 1, 2016

Deki said:
Has anyone tried to replace leather grip with synthetic grip? Specs? Looking to get RF97 but static weight is a bit too much for me....
Thanks

I replaced the wilson leather grip with a Blade Synthetic grip, and it made the racket 6g lighter.

asifallasleep · Nov 5, 2016

Anton said:
Just to clarify, this is for the new black ones correct?

Anton, can you give your thoughts on the Angell TC95 compared to the current RF97?

ThirdEye · Nov 5, 2016

Nkster said:
I replaced the wilson leather grip with a Blade Synthetic grip, and it made the racket 6g lighter.

Problem is the balance moves up a bit.

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