The reason Federer is being so successful in 2017

chjtennis

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
Quite simple. Talent. He has the talent to make small changes to his game and suddenly he becomes good enough to win. How many players, when they get to 35/36, can make adjustments to their games and make up for the inevitable degeneration in reflex, agility, strength, and athleticism in general to compensate how much of losses they experience? That's exactly what Federer has done this year. He is not as fast or strong as he was 10 years ago, but he is taking the ball even earlier and has become even more aggressive with his approach. He hits his BH with more brief but compact swing with bigger frame now. He hits returns with even earlier contact and gets into attacking position straight away. And all these changes are possible because he has the talent to do it. Let's admit this - Federer's success at this advanced tennis age is only possible because of his talent. You can work as hard as you want to, but without the talent, it's just not possible to stay this good at his age and that's simply why not many players can play as well at 36.
 
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Rago

Rago

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People need to thank the guy on the left for the Fedal resurgence this year.

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checkmilu

checkmilu

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Click bait, as if no one think that Fed has talent. The reason is Fed is a complete package. Apart from talent, he has the right mentality which is contrast to the like of Tomic and Kyrgios, a supportive family, a great coaching team, and the belief that he is and still can be the best and last but not least, the support of millions of fans around the world.
 
MrRandom247

MrRandom247

Semi-Pro
Fed knows how to volley & attack which is perfect for play on W grass.
Most pros don't adapt & play it like a hardcourt & get found out when the ball skids thru.
Lack of skillful volleying was evident from most players.
Raonic is classic example, he was all at sea at the net, quite absurd for a pro.
Berdych had his chances but was too tentative overall & isn't a natural attacking volleyer.
 
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SLD76

SLD76

G.O.A.T.
chjtennis said:
Quite simple. Talent. He has the talent to make small changes to his game and suddenly he becomes good enough to win. How many players, when they get to 35/36, can make adjustments to their games and make up for the inevitable degeneration in reflex, agility, strength, and athleticism in general to compensate how much of losses they experience? That's exactly what Federer has done this year. He is not as fast or strong as he was 10 years ago, but he is taking the ball even earlier and has become even more aggressive with his approach. He hits his BH with more brief but compact swing with bigger frame now. He hits returns with even earlier contact and gets into attacking position straight away. And all these changes are possible because he has the talent to do it. Let's admit this - Federer's success at this advanced tennis age is only possible because of his talent. You can work as hard as you want to, but without the talent, it's just not possible to stay this good at his age and that's simply why not many players can play as well at 36.
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Too true

Ask Roddick about working hard to adapt your game


He tried to hard to adapt his game to deal with Federer

When the reality is , Fed was just a better player

Matches where it was close or Roddick won Fed generally was off his game if not outright playing badly for his standard
 
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G.O.A.T.
Yeah, he has adapted and is playing different ball to what he played in the years previous. Better or worse is another question. He also had a very rich vein of form in 2015, producing dominant tennis at Wimbledon and the USO only to be stopped by a player producing one of the most brilliant years in tennis history.
 
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adil1972

Hall of Fame
nadal appeared in two slams finals this year, one win (FO) and one runnerup (AO)
federer appeared in two slam finals this years with two wins (AO & Wimbledon)
 
titoelcolombiano

titoelcolombiano

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Yes, no doubt Fed is very talented and has worked hard to adapt his game. His resurgence has aligned with Djokovic's form slump though. Let's not forget that Djoker has dominated all but 2013 and late 2016 hands down. I would also expect that given how close the AO final was Rafa will perform well at the US Open to continue his own resurgence.
 
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SLD76 said:
Too true

Ask Roddick about working hard to adapt your game


He tried to hard to adapt his game to deal with Federer

When the reality is , Fed was just a better player

Matches where it was close or Roddick won Fed generally was off his game if not outright playing badly for his standard
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I commend Roddick for all his hard work though.

Nadal and Djokovic weren't roadblocks in the same way as Federer and adjustments to his game proved fruitful against them; but Federer was such a bad matchup for him nothing was going to truly help him overcome Roger.
 
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titoelcolombiano said:
Yes, no doubt Fed is very talented and has worked hard to adapt his game. His resurgence has aligned with Djokovic's form slump though. Let's not forget that Djoker has dominated all but 2013 and late 2016 hands down. I would also expect that given how close the AO final was Rafa will perform well at the US Open to continue his own resurgence.
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Djokovic hardly dominated 2014 or 2012, both times it was a rather close race between him and Federer.
 
BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

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chjtennis said:
Quite simple. Talent.
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Fed had the identical amount of talent in 2014-2015 and he choked away two Wimbledon finals he should have won. He had the identical amount of talent in 2010/11 when he choked away two USO semis against Novak. He had the identical amount of talent the USO final in 2015 and made 2/24 BP's. The point being, he always had a sick amount of talent, more than any other player in the history of the game. His talent suddenly didn't explode in 2017, it's the same it always was.

He's playing better in 2017 because he somehow has conquered his mental demons. Maybe because of Ljub, maybe because he finally consulted a decent sports psychologist, maybe he finally got sick of losing big matches to players he should beat on surfaces that favor him. His BH was a great shot in 2003-2007 until Nadal beat it into submission. Once he conquered his mental demons against Rafa, the BH returned to the beautiful shot it was when he was young.
 
chjtennis

chjtennis

G.O.A.T.
BeatlesFan said:
Fed had the identical amount of talent in 2014-2015 and he choked away two Wimbledon finals he should have won. He had the identical amount of talent in 2010/11 when he choked away two USO semis against Novak. He had the identical amount of talent the USO final in 2015 and made 2/24 BP's. The point being, he always had a sick amount of talent, more than any other player in the history of the game. His talent suddenly didn't explode in 2017, it's the same it always was.

He's playing better in 2017 because he somehow has conquered his mental demons. Maybe because of Ljub, maybe because he finally consulted a decent sports psychologist, maybe he finally got sick of losing big matches to players he should beat on surfaces that favor him. His BH was a great shot in 2003-2007 until Nadal beat it into submission. Once he conquered his mental demons against Rafa, the BH returned to the beautiful shot it was when he was young.
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No doubt there are some other factors - mental aspects, the decline of his main rivals, etc. However, all those would've been irrelevant if Federer couldn't sustain his high level of tennis at the age of 36. The way Federer plays his tennis at the age of 35.9 is just amazing. And he still keeps making adjustments to compensate for whatever he has lost due to his age. Nadal also has done that quite well. He is coming forward more and taking the ball earlier. That shows Nadal also has a lot of talent. I'm not sure what Djokovic and Murray can do now that they are in their 30s and it will be interesting to see what solutions they come up with. Federer is still on another level though. He keeps making me amazed.
 
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Ray Mercer

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Federer is playing great but he was also playing amazing in 2015. He just ran into Djokovic at the peak of his career in those finals match ups. The 2015 US Open still pisses me off because Federer was the better player and should have won that match with all of those break points. Djokovic was the better player in the two Wimbledon finals and deserved to win those. Federer deserves these titles after having to battle Djoker and Nadal at their peak while he was past his. His longevity has been nothing short of amazing.
 
AlexR

AlexR

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To hear him tell it, he readily admits Rafa got in his head a little, and also he had some injuries. He's over both. I think w/ Rafa, he heeded the wisdom of "play the ball, not the player" and for the overall improvement in the level of his game, it looks to me like he just decided he'd never again lose a point because he was too cautious. He decided to go max offense on every shot (to the extent possible). It's paying off because he's the best ever to play the game and it's not like he's 70 and overweight. He's 36. He'll probably win Wimbledon at least once more.
 
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Daniel Johnson

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chjtennis said:
Quite simple. Talent. He has the talent to make small changes to his game and suddenly he becomes good enough to win. How many players, when they get to 35/36, can make adjustments to their games and make up for the inevitable degeneration in reflex, agility, strength, and athleticism in general to compensate how much of losses they experience? That's exactly what Federer has done this year. He is not as fast or strong as he was 10 years ago, but he is taking the ball even earlier and has become even more aggressive with his approach. He hits his BH with more brief but compact swing with bigger frame now. He hits returns with even earlier contact and gets into attacking position straight away. And all these changes are possible because he has the talent to do it. Let's admit this - Federer's success at this advanced tennis age is only possible because of his talent. You can work as hard as you want to, but without the talent, it's just not possible to stay this good at his age and that's simply why not many players can play as well at 36.
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It's true. His timing on the backhand ROS is like nothing I've ever seen before (and better than it was earlier in his career imo)

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