Head Graphene Touch Prestige
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danbrenner
Legend
some type of 18x20.. which means "im out".
danbrenner
Legend
you know guys... i cant help but think. . the last few iterations have the dynamic string spacing which to be honest is just not with the times. most of us want to maximize the open patterns these days. its not like the ig was that open to begin with. but why is Head taking the openness away. we dont want dynamic. i dont anyway. and leave the leather grips on. . dont you want at least one line to have leather?
Then you have the 21mm beams of the youtek and youtek ig which i love. more feel, better whip through the contact zone. need i say more. Its time to stock up on the youteks.
Then you have the 21mm beams of the youtek and youtek ig which i love. more feel, better whip through the contact zone. need i say more. Its time to stock up on the youteks.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
The string spacing is the same on the IGPrestige Pro and the Graphene/XT Prestige Pro. Dynamic string spacing is called marketing.
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danbrenner
Legend
No it’s
no it’s not. There is a difference on the graph genes. The middle mains are slightly closer together
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
I disagree
Say Chi Sin Lo
G.O.A.T.
Is the Mid back?
Otherwise, all of this is a moot point.
Otherwise, all of this is a moot point.
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you on that. 21mm is nice and thin, but I prefer 16-20mm beams to the 21mm, Especially when they maintain stability and solid feel which I suppose the 21mm gets more easily. For me, I've found that 20mm is the best compromise of stability/solidity and feel/knife-ness although I can't pass up 16-19mm or 21mm either. Basically, they're all awesome but I've found that 20mm is my favorite. Right, sorry for the hijack. Bye lol
danbrenner
Legend
I c
If there isn’t a difference then why would they go into the whole dynamic string patten bs. Yes I hear you for marketing. But that would be very odd to me if that were the case. Let’s see
i called head USA. And spoke to a rep. And asked him this question. He didn’t know. But he will get back to me tomorrow. He said.
If there isn’t a difference then why would they go into the whole dynamic string patten bs. Yes I hear you for marketing. But that would be very odd to me if that were the case. Let’s see
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
That is why the grommets are interchangeable???
Same pattern, same spacing.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
They will be so truthful and honest too. I wonder why the grommets are interchangeable then?
Thanks dr! Why do people not want to accept the truth?
danbrenner
Legend
This is completely Unacceptable on the part of head
danbrenner
Legend
wow.. i am at a loss. they chose to showcase the dynamic spacing with the advent of the Graphene in 2014.. and it was old tech.. shameful
Frans Bleker
Professional
How is Head actually doing in terms of sales? Someone got any insight in this? Do the Graphene's actually cause a declince?
galapagos
Hall of Fame
Prestiges seems to always catch some attention. Many great players in my area use them. Same thing when i was on vacation. They usualy grew up with them and just stick to the beam. I highly believe speed line got a lot of fans. Maybe even couches using prestige suggest speed to their students as a transition to the holy beam. Speeds got more "magic" prestige is raw.
ProRadTour
Semi-Pro
i hardly ever see anyone using prestige frames ... their numbers have to be down. I do see Speed frames being used and Extreme frames. In general popularity the most widely used frames seem to be Babolat Aero and Pure Drive and Wilson Blades.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
It's what really replaced the Radical MPHey, good thing they're releasing an S version. Must be a very PRESTIGIOUS frame
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
Wait why? It's a 16x19 and not very flexible. By the way, it was mostly for the pun that I said it.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Its the same beam width, and head size, and its 62RA as the old Radical's. I got your pun. Just pointing out what happened.
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
Ok fair points. Similar specs too. Only missing 18x20. Thought you might've been talking about the older Radicals with 21mm beam widths.
ShahofTennis
Hall of Fame
Kind of makes me want to reach into the closet and pull out some of my IG Mids. I shall refrain from doing so.
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Thats what they were from 1999 to fall 2013
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
Weren't they 21mm until Youtek which was a 2010 release?
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Racquet finder says so. Youtek was 21.5mm and IG 22mm. Meanwhile MG and before were all 21mm.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
They were 21mm until the Graphene. Youtek and IG were the same exact mold.
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
Really? Then it's really weird that TW would find such results. Also it says the Prestige S is 22mm as well.
vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
Yes, really. TGK260 is the mold for the YouTek/IG Radical.
TennisHound
Legend
Newer Head frames aren't meant for serious players other than Jrs to use. And good Jrs use them. In my opinion, it takes someone who has never hit with any racquet before 2014, or someone who doesn't know Head's history, to like these racquets.
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
I agree
El_Yotamo
Hall of Fame
Very well then. I'm confused then that different beam measurements are taken from the same mold. Does that mean the Prestige S is also 21mm?
Can you explain your opinion that Head frames aren't meant for serious players. I'm curious why Head seems to be a bit of punching bag on these forums. Thanks. PS: I hit with the new Prestige Pro and doesn't play too differently than the current frame. Less polarized but close to the same.
TennisHound
Legend
Well fwiw, I'm looking for a back up XTPmp for my 17yo. He cracked his with a hard mishit (I know right, cheap). I don't like it (and I used Prestiges for almost 4 yrs) but I can't pry it out of his hands.
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vsbabolat
G.O.A.T.
You're not even close.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
I'm pretty sure there is this problem. I still don't see why Americans feel Wilson is American. They see what they want to see.
People seem to slobber over Prince for the same reasons even though it's been owned by a tennis-unfriendly company for some time.
People seem to slobber over Prince for the same reasons even though it's been owned by a tennis-unfriendly company for some time.
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Bartelby
Bionic Poster
It is ridiculous, but people buy on emotion. This is a fact and companies know this very well. People just are ridiculous.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Apple is just as fundamentally a Chinese brand as is any racquet engineered in France, but made in China.
Dedans Penthouse
Legend
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Old people and intellectuals should steer clear of emojis.
But emojis are a good illustration, no pun intended, of my point about emotion.
But emojis are a good illustration, no pun intended, of my point about emotion.
. . .
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Bartelby
Bionic Poster
All racquets are high quality, apart from stumbles like Wilson's recent paint issue, and that's why they need an ounce of emotion as well.
Dedans Penthouse
Legend
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
I deal in phallacies.
...the stale fallacy has long past its expiration date - stop digging Bart
Dedans Penthouse
Legend
And plalluses deal in you.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
You may have a plallus on offer, but they are not really in demand.
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