Powderwombat
Semi-Pro
At the moment I'm just saying bad luck or something...any better things to say to give them a boost?
If it's a completely bad shot, then I just smile and chuckle. Sort of a "**** happens" and move on.At the moment I'm just saying bad luck or something...any better things to say to give them a boost?
Speaking of idiots... to anyone out there that does the following...please stop.
If you make some obvious self-imposed un-forced error: a double fault, you miss an easy overhead, you volley a simple sitter into the net, etc. and then you turn to your partner and pat yourself on your own chest and say "My bad." PLEASE STOP DOING THAT! OF COURSE it is your bad. Of course it is! You JUST double fault. How is it ANYONE else's "bad" but yours?
You let a short lob bounce, you are underneath it and 6 feet from the net, and you mis-hit and slam it into the base of the net. Don't say "My bad." What, you think someone ELSE is going to step up and take responsibility for your miss, so you need to own up verbally? STOP saying "My bad" on obvious unforced errors! Please, for the love of all manatees.
So do you prefer my response, which is basically toss my racket into the net while howling to the unfair tennis gods, then falling to my knees in a puddle of despair?
Saying "bad luck" when they've launched a ball halfway up the back fence is kinda awkward.
I wonder what the pros say when they bump hands after getting embarrassed in a point
Ok by me, but why blame the tennis gods for your bad technique?
But botch a bunny and seeing you throw your racquet and crumbling into a tearfall pile of tears - now That's entertainment!
I've seen one player always scowl at their partner when they make an error.At the moment I'm just saying bad luck or something...any better things to say to give them a boost?
I'll usually coach them. If they weren't using their legs enough on the volley, I'll say "Use your legs." and then follow up with a "C'mon, you got this."
If they double fault I'll say "Don't worry about it, just kick it in. They won't hurt us too bad."
Today i cursed unforced errors and was simply absolutely disgusted by missed first serves. Then I realized i was playing singles and really let myself have it. I'll never play with myself again. I quit
At the moment I'm just saying bad luck or something...any better things to say to give them a boost?
EXACTLY LOLIf it's my brother, I turn to him with my hands on my hips, head cocked to one side, and giving him this look.
Anybody else. I say "No problem. No worries. We'll get the next ball."
haha this reminds me of my brother and me. so much fire between us.If it's my brother, I turn to him with my hands on my hips, head cocked to one side, and giving him this look.
Anybody else. I say "No problem. No worries. We'll get the next ball."
oops I left the same comment twice. How to delete?I hope that the “my bad” trend ends soon.
Speaking of idiots... to anyone out there that does the following...please stop.
If you make some obvious self-imposed un-forced error: a double fault, you miss an easy overhead, you volley a simple sitter into the net, etc. and then you turn to your partner and pat yourself on your own chest and say "My bad." PLEASE STOP DOING THAT! OF COURSE it is your bad. Of course it is! You JUST double fault. How is it ANYONE else's "bad" but yours?
You let a short lob bounce, you are underneath it and 6 feet from the net, and you mis-hit and slam it into the base of the net. Don't say "My bad." What, you think someone ELSE is going to step up and take responsibility for your miss, so you need to own up verbally? STOP saying "My bad" on obvious unforced errors! Please, for the love of all manatees.
That's fair. I think, on the other hand, that missing and not knowing why you're missing is one of the most frustrating feelings in the world. So if my partner isn't split-stepping and consequentially is shanking volleys, I'll tell them what I see.I try to avoid coaching technique during match play. I will only coach strategy and tactics. Putting technique thoughts into someone's head is a sure way to get them to make UE's as their mind swims with tips they need to think about. But absolutely if my partner is feeding his serves to the opponents FH wheelhouse, I'll politely suggest a serve to the BH or down the middle. Or if he's hovering at the junction between the service line and the alley, I'll again gently suggest a more aggressive location at the net.
if they miss that easy shot into the back fence or similar - I just laugh at them.
- If it is just generally a bad day I usually just let them know it is what it is and to work with things that are going well that day. We have a phrase that I started with my son, and that is simply saying. "what's good?" when someone is struggling on court. That is to help focus and remind a player there ARE good things happening and not to think about and continue to do the things that aren't going well.
I really like this -- thank you! I used to play/coach soccer for many years before I got into tennis. This was part of our halftime discussion to make adjustments, the point being, I wanted the player to *tell me* instead of me just doing more explaining...it shows me the player is engaged and now we have something we can build upon. If they're going to beat us, it won't be by taking away *that*!
Another variation is I'll ask "what are you seeing"? I've used that in changeovers, but I like 'what's good' bc it keeps the focus on at least one positive thing.
Your rules are good, but just so there is no confusion: your "what did we do wrong" is nothing like ChaezAZ's "what's good."When an obvious strategical error causes us to lose a point I'll frequently ask my partner, "What did we do wrong?" Usually it's bad positioning or ignoring the "Deep to deep" rule. Just trying to make sure my partner was aware of the situation. Similarly if we win a point because we were strategically sound, I'll ask them "why did we win that point?" Usually it's because we got to the net in proper alignment and executed the right shots. Again I want to have a chance to encourage my partner for good heads up play.
So much of doubles is just knowing where you are supposed to be and what your job is from that position. If both partners are on the same page then it works beautifully. If one guy decides to be the baseline freelancer, it all falls apart quickly.
My key rules of doubles:
1) Serve down the middle
2) Net man mirrors the ball from the mid service box
3) Crosscourt player transitions to the service line at first opportunity and holds that spot, aligned with the ball and the net strap
4) Volleys and half volleys are hit deep to deep or short to short, never deep to short and only rarely short to deep
5) Crosscourt player is responsible for lobs
6) When in doubt hit down the middle
If you just do these things you will beat 1 up 1 back doubles teams most of the time. Especially as you get more facile at overheads, half volleys and low volleys. But these rules only work if both partners understand and follow them. If one player is in his spot and the other decides to freelance, you open the court back up. So I never get upset at my partner over execution errors. That's largely down to ability. But I do get upset when partners ignore strategical plans made in advance to head off into "I'm going to play my game and you cover for me" mode.
Your rules are good, but just so there is no confusion: your "what did we do wrong" is nothing like ChaezAZ's "what's good."
Man, I am glad we don't play doubles. The "What did we do wrong?/Why did we win that point?" would annoy the crap out of me.When an obvious strategical error causes us to lose a point I'll frequently ask my partner, "What did we do wrong?" Usually it's bad positioning or ignoring the "Deep to deep" rule. Just trying to make sure my partner was aware of the situation. Similarly if we win a point because we were strategically sound, I'll ask them "why did we win that point?" Usually it's because we got to the net in proper alignment and executed the right shots. Again I want to have a chance to encourage my partner for good heads up play.
So much of doubles is just knowing where you are supposed to be and what your job is from that position. If both partners are on the same page then it works beautifully. If one guy decides to be the baseline freelancer, it all falls apart quickly.
My key rules of doubles:
1) Serve down the middle
2) Net man mirrors the ball from the mid service box
3) Crosscourt player transitions to the service line at first opportunity and holds that spot, aligned with the ball and the net strap
4) Volleys and half volleys are hit deep to deep or short to short, never deep to short and only rarely short to deep
5) Crosscourt player is responsible for lobs
6) When in doubt hit down the middle
If you just do these things you will beat 1 up 1 back doubles teams most of the time. Especially as you get more facile at overheads, half volleys and low volleys. But these rules only work if both partners understand and follow them. If one player is in his spot and the other decides to freelance, you open the court back up. So I never get upset at my partner over execution errors. That's largely down to ability. But I do get upset when partners ignore strategical plans made in advance to head off into "I'm going to play my game and you cover for me" mode.
Man, I am glad we don't play doubles. The "What did we do wrong?/Why did we win that point?" would annoy the crap out of me.
Glad it works for you, though!
Me personally, I always like critical analysis. Sometimes I can see what I did (e.g. Taking an overly aggressive net position and leaving too much of the alley open, cheating too early and getting wrong-footed, et cetera), sometimes I can't really tell exactly what I did wrong. I like to just apologize for my mistake and get on with it. I can get in my own head pretty often, though, so I need a little encouragement from my partner occasionally.Well certainly I only do it a) if I know you well and you are interested in improving teamwork and b) if there has been a clear pattern of poor positioning. I’m not going to say something every point. Might say something twice a match. And if it’s clear you have no interest that day in critically analyzing your play, I’ll shut up pretty quick. I’m only interested in working on issues with other like minded people.
If I was playing doubles with you for the first time I’d likely say absolutely nothing other than “good shot” or “right idea”.
There is a big difference between your partners you are going into tournaments with and your social doubles partners. Tourney doubles really needs two people on the same page.