Serena Wiiliams vs Carlos Ramos poll
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tennisfan2015
Hall of Fame
And her daughter did too.
MatsPhilander
Legend
Rusedski was also supportive of him & damning of Williams in the Daily Telegraph yesterday. ITF have come out in defence of him now as well.
terribleIVAN
Hall of Fame
Note sure i follow the writer here.
"While there’s no doubt Williams has endured sexism and racism throughout her long and historic career..."
Not even Williams brought race into the incident.
Why does he need to?
checkmilu
Semi-Pro
Next time when Serena plays at the USO, they should organise a female+black+mom referee to handle her matches and see what excuses will she come up with when losing! Maybe, "you steal my points and game because I'm American...your f*king liar b*tch" we never know, but for sure, the checklist for her referees with get longer every year, because she is a real smart *ss
AM75
Hall of Fame
Pliskova attacked the chair after the match. I bet if she'd do it during the match she would at least have a warning, but most likely she'd be disqualified. And on the other hand Vanderweghe didn't get her bananas and was warned twice during the AO. Wasn't it sexist not to bring a woman a banana she needed and punished her for the fact she was angry about that?
Yes Carlos Ramos is known to enforce the rules, but Nadal did not say that Ramos would never umpire his matches again. This is what he actually said,
AM75
Hall of Fame
She most likely doesn‘t care.
Stretchy Man
Professional
https://www.google.com/search?q="never+chair+another+of+his+matches+again"
I wonder if the media have got their Carlos' confused?
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joekapa
Legend
Serena is an ATG. We expect more from her.
What dissapointed me most, is that KNOWING she was losing, she ended up using the
1) Mother card. Like there are no other mothers out there. She has one child, with all tha nannies and comforts required for her to continue her career.
2) The woman/sexism card.
She didn't use the racism card, because he opponent was Japanese. If it was a caucasian across the net, you would be she would of used it.
PDJ
G.O.A.T.
That's funny
PDJ
G.O.A.T.
And funnier
PDJ
G.O.A.T.
PDJ
G.O.A.T.
Don't forget BJK and Steve Simon... or is that too many votes
PDJ
G.O.A.T.
Exactly .
Surely that's just common sense.
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Deleted member 688153
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Not ruled just yet.
Common sense still often prevails, like it did here.Before long though, maybe.
Rabe87
Professional
Clearly you're not reading between the lines. Had Serena bashed an Umpires chair with her racquet making her opponent wince at the net post-match, she'd be condemned to Compton and back. Don't pretend like there isn't uneven treatment meted out to players, it does you a disservice.
Shaolin
G.O.A.T.
Haha of course Bartelby would jump in to play the race card. Imbecile.
AM75
Hall of Fame
She did almost the same on Saturday, and did worse things before, she had attacked an Asian woman, and look - she‘s a feminist and anti racist hero and an exemplary mother figure.
Anyway I bet she would be celebrated for this attack as a person who had courage to destroy patriarchal symbols ot white dominance.
Question is though why Pliskova wasn’t celebrated? Is it because she’s white and from the Eastern Europe and has no daughter?
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MLRoy
Hall of Fame
Women get away with murder. They always have, and never more so than now. I know, because I'm a very prolific "murderess". Not in Williams's league of course. Even Lizzie Borden isn't in Williams's league. Any male acting like THAT, would've been fined A LOT more than her pocket-change slight finger-wag of a fine. They'd be suspended for several months, and have to take anger therapy, along with being vilified by the TV bobbleheads instead of defended by them ("Everyone does it (coaching)!"). B. is behind the times. There's a lot more misandry in the West, than misogyny. You know, those "evil old white men" who created the Western world, and treat women 10000% better that the Eastern world, that psychotic progrossive females "fear" so much? Do you ever hear them complaining about burqas and, pardon the expression, "clitectomies"?! Not the ones "afraid" of evil old white men, you don't. Don't buy the misogyny excuse men of North America and Europe.
MLRoy
Hall of Fame
When they have nothing else. He's not even black, but he plays it as often as Sharpton.
I think they very likely did. But what's new the media often get it wrong.
Omega_7000
Legend
This is why illegal coaching, time limit violations, racquet smashes need to be penalized 100% of the time and not selectively based on the discretion of the umpire.
Wander
Hall of Fame
Does it need to be scrutinized? The writer probably wanted to highlight that Serena has in the past faced discrimination due to more than one factor. Perhaps there was no need to mention it in this piece, but I don't think the fact that he did invalidates anything either.
Enceladus
Legend
Serena, Venus, Richard, Patrick Moratouglou, Alexis Ohanian.
Fugazi
Professional
To be fair, the worst was probably the Austrian Daniel Koellerer, but he wasn't exactly a prominent player.I just noticed, all those people you mentioned are Americans.
AM75
Hall of Fame
"During the three previous Grand Slams — the French Open, Wimbledon and Australian Open — men were assessed 59 code violations, almost twice as many as the women. The men were issued violations for coaching nine times and the most common violation was abuse of racket/equipment 19 times."
dParis
Hall of Fame
People really can't take it when a woman acts like a male bully!
You'll survive.
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
Who are the 6 idiots who voted for Serena ? I will f*$%#@! sh**e a ball in your throats, ok !!!
CYGS
Legend
There's hope in humanity
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
Her coach did not.
Alba Barragan
Professional
I don't have a particular problem with the way the artist portrayed Serena, 'cause as @Mr.Lob pointed out, that's the way caricatures kinda work:
But I do agree with you that there's some racism in them. And it's not displayed in the way Serena looks, but in the way in which the artist whitewashed Mohamed (who isn't white) and Naomi (who is also not white, nor does she have straight hair, and her physique doesn't look like that). Those who did nothing wrong in the circumstances are given physical attributes of white people, when they could simply be portrayed the way they are, without having their physical features exaggerated or changed.
Rhino
Legend
Me. This has nothing to do with racism. What was he supposed to draw, an angry white man?
MLRoy
Hall of Fame
If she ever got stopped for speeding, you know the first words out of her gob would be, "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AAAAAMM?!"
Mainad
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