Zara
G.O.A.T.
I wonder how many candles would @helterskelter burn tonight.
Australia said no to Tsitsipas
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VaporDude95
Banned
Wally Masur has always been a certified idiot.
He’s a Fed hater too, which explains a lot.
He’s a Fed hater too, which explains a lot.
Tshooter
G.O.A.T.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
There was definitely a deja vu vibe there I swear to God.
MasturB
Legend
Honeslty it's better for tennis that Tsitipas plays for Greece. I always like it when smaller countries like Greece who don't have tennis tradition or history make an impact at the top of the game.
I was hoping Chung would get back to playing well but he's fizzled since Indian Wells last year. Also, Tsitispas is already laid back and before last year had a lazy off-court regimen. If he were in Australia... he'd probably get that Kyrgios/Tomic lazy DNA in him too. De Minaur seems to be the anti-Tomic/Kyrgios.
I was hoping Chung would get back to playing well but he's fizzled since Indian Wells last year. Also, Tsitispas is already laid back and before last year had a lazy off-court regimen. If he were in Australia... he'd probably get that Kyrgios/Tomic lazy DNA in him too. De Minaur seems to be the anti-Tomic/Kyrgios.
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You can love your country without loving or trusting its government. Look at how much help he gave for the floods in Serbia.
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Australia doesn't seem interested in producing good tennis players any more. Probably best for Tsitsipas that he didn't end up in our system.
-snake-
Hall of Fame
That's 'cause he's Spanish.
Azure
G.O.A.T.
What about? What is it Zara? What's the thing that's annoying you about my posts? Or is it simply that I am unable to understand an underlying humour in your posts either because it's lost in translation or I am simply not familiar with your culture's sense of humour? Is it something that I said inadvertently to you? If so, I apologize because I never intend to be mean to anyone.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Should have known he was behind this.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
I am not sure why you are being so dramatic when I am being playful. Lost in translation indeed. Lighten up and enjoy the match even if you watch it on tape. I won't be watching, no - no matter who wins or loses. And I am nuetrall.
ST VINCENT FAN
Rookie
No it's true, very lazy people, especially the youth that refuse to work and would prefer to live in the coffee shops off of their parents pensions than do something that is beneath their university degree which has no job prospect. Thankfully Greece has a whole lot of immigrants themselves that are happy to work hard and do the jobs that the youth think is beneath them.
An old Greek saying is that the youth won't move a finger here in their homeland but will wash dishes in a foreign land (sorry, crudely translated)
But I'm happy that Setanos is doing well and I'm totally not surprised that Tennis Australia F**KED up
Sentinel
Bionic Poster
He wood of bangd yuor gf. Sawry to tell you dat m8.
flanker2000fr
Hall of Fame
The first statement is fair enough.
The second statement is ludicrous: no-one in the EU ever forced / bribed Greece into join the Eurozone. The Greek Government cooked its public finances books (with the help of Goldman Sachs - hardly a European bank) to meet the criteria for the EUR, as they knew it would allow them much lower borrowing interest rates. Which in turn could be used to go on a spending spree and hire more public servants, expand the armed forces, increase pensions, pay for Olympic games etc. All of which were electorally popular.
On the third statement, obviously being part of a currency completely over-valued compared to the overall level of productivity of the economy was a major factor in the economy tanking. But it could also be said that the money they borrowed cheaply wasn't used to make the economy more competitive, and was instead squandered in the clientelistic spending spree I described above.
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Azure
G.O.A.T.
Thanks for clarifying.
ST VINCENT FAN
Rookie
It`s exactly how it is, this is how we have Gavrilova playing for Australia.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
There isn't much paid work in Greece at the moment, which you'd know if you bothered to inform yourself of facts. You are just a lazy recycler of age-old prejudices.
No it's true, very lazy people, especially the youth that refuse to work and would prefer to live in the coffee shops off of their parents pensions than do something that is beneath their university degree which has no job prospect. Thankfully Greece has a whole lot of immigrants themselves that are happy to work hard and do the jobs that the youth think is beneath them.
An old Greek saying is that the youth won't move a finger here in their homeland but will wash dishes in a foreign land (sorry, crudely translated)
But I'm happy that Setanos is doing well and I'm totally not surprised that Tennis Australia F**KED up
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Who the hell is 'Setanos'. Your Greek is obviously rusty!
But I'm happy that Setanos is doing well and I'm totally not surprised that Tennis Australia F**KED up
ST VINCENT FAN
Rookie
Ahhh crap, you got me lol
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
So they cooked the books mainly through a global bank with American origins. I don't see how this changes what I said.
American and European banks and institutions all helped the Greek elite to fraudulently join the Eurozone so they could load it up on debt.
And when the moment came they took the Greek people to the slaughterhouse.
Greece has historically had one of the most treacherous political elite's that a country in Europe could possibly suffer from.
It's not hard to understand. It's just a version of payday lending. And we all know where that ends. Debt to pay off debts, And then they sieze your assets.
American and European banks and institutions all helped the Greek elite to fraudulently join the Eurozone so they could load it up on debt.
And when the moment came they took the Greek people to the slaughterhouse.
Greece has historically had one of the most treacherous political elite's that a country in Europe could possibly suffer from.
It's not hard to understand. It's just a version of payday lending. And we all know where that ends. Debt to pay off debts, And then they sieze your assets.
MasturB
Legend
Well, he spent many years training in Spain. So yes.
Maybe someone can refresh my memory, but Kokkinakis hasn't had the off-court issues Nick and Berns have had right? It's only been an issue with him staying healthy more than anything.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
Bull doesn't need any offerings made to him. He's got this anyway, as always.
Otacon
Hall of Fame
This must change IMO. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And it's unfair to the least developed countries.
FedGR
Professional
Thank you for actually providing some factual information here in comparison to the tales from the diner from other users that are in the know.
So you are from a family of immigrants that moved abroad, made it (κανανε λεφτα), and think that everybody behind is lazy and doesn't pay their taxes. If it makes you sleep better at night, that's ok. A lot of 2nd and 3rd generations immigrants are like that, they think they are better. No surprises here. It would be better if you had the whole story though.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
That sounds sad, helter. Do you need a shoulder to drink on?
But it's not so bad. Isn't life much bigger than this?
ST VINCENT FAN
Rookie
I think it's different with Tsitsipas though, the family were wanting to come to Ausralia due to the crisis that has seen over 30K Greeks make the move for a better future, Australia has strict conditions though.
Whereas Gavrilova was paid to switch flags due to her junior results.
-snake-
Hall of Fame
Plus, his parents are spanish speakers. The only Australian thing about him is his passport.
Otacon
Hall of Fame
Yeah I see. Nevertheless, this must be regulated by the ITF. You can't switch flags just like that. In soccer for instance, once you played for your NT in an official match, it's set in stone.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
That sounds sad, helter. Do you need a shoulder to drink on?
But it's not so bad. Isn't life much bigger than this?
On the contrary, a rare victory for the forces of morality and humility over those of immorality and brashness is something to celebrate! But I'm actually going to sleep now that Kvitova won so I likely won't see the match. Too much work to do tomorrow for that.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Football is a club sport, defined nationally, and a team sport. Tennis is a bunch of random individuals herded together from time to time. Tennis players need more freedom.
Otacon
Hall of Fame
Yeah but if Qatar comes and offers Djokovic 100.000.000 USD to switch flags, would that be ok ?
flanker2000fr
Hall of Fame
It's just too easy to pin it on the "treacherous political elite". At the end of the day, they were being elected democratically by the Greek people.
ST VINCENT FAN
Rookie
Greek youth have an unemployment rate of over 40%
They go to you Uni, get a degree and then can't find jobs in their chosen fields, ***** about it and will NOT consider doing anything that would be considered beneath their qualification, they sit in the coffee shops all day long and live off of their parents pensions.
Youth unemployment in Greece: https://www.statista.com/statistics/812053/youth-unemployment-rate-in-greece/
Why do all Greeks that I encounter say "why should I pay my taxes when my neighbour doesn't, I'll pay them when everyone else pays them"
This is the reality that I see and hear around me when I'm there, people in the shops talk about it, older generations ***** about it (and these are the ones that all retired at 45 and lived of government pensions ever since) and the young ones laugh about why should they work if they don't need to.
I haven't formed my opinion from out of the air, I own my own home there, I pay taxes there and I know what's going on around me when I'm there.
Zara
G.O.A.T.
Good enough, helter. I am happy for you. Sleep tight.
donquijote
G.O.A.T.
He would have had at least two grand slams by now had he moved to down under.
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Given Greece is a nation where a lot of people make their own jobs, and the fact of a 40% youth unemployment rate, where exactly do they apply for a job?
Greeks have moreover had their pensions confiscated from them so you are also trading on information over a decade old.
You either don't understand or you're taking an extreme 'New Democracy' position.
Greeks have moreover had their pensions confiscated from them so you are also trading on information over a decade old.
You either don't understand or you're taking an extreme 'New Democracy' position.
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ST VINCENT FAN
Rookie
I think everything happens for a reason and I'm glad he's playing for Greece, the atmosphere after every win is crazy, everyone is talking about it, people that never watched tennis are now talking about tennis, this is fantastic!!
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
Given that Australian-born Melbourne Greeks would barrack for Tsitsipas even against a Lleyton Hewitt, it suits their preferences as dual nationals for him to be Greek.
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EloQuent
Legend
Yeah I agree. It's good that smaller nations have success. When a western nation "buys" players it feels all wrong.
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