Dimitrov?
No
Aside from grips, people often distinguish between two types of elbow positions.... straight arm and bent arm. Djokovic has a bent arm on the forehand. Nadal and Federer have a straight arm. Straight arm style seems to be a bit more rare on the tour.
because they hit different forehands????
Because it’s not? Have you seen Djoko hit a forehand? Do you even watch tennis?
Same birthday Same Forehand!
Yes, put them slo mo side to side
Tsitsipas has a very classic eastern forehand grip, not semi-western. Same for Dimitrov.
Dimi yes, Tpas hits straight up semi western.
You are absolutely incorrect. It is very obvious just from his strokes. But just for you:
Tsitsipas has a very classic eastern grip, dude. I remember even Fed mentioned it in his presser after his loss to him.
Right. You clearly know more than his coach, his opponents who have played him and himself. I swear, only on TTW. By the way, all pics posted above show a strong eastern. Best educate yourself instead of digging a deeper hole. It is about index knuckle and heel pad and he clearly has a very classic eastern. Cheers.His palm is visibly further down on his grip than Del Potro's is...
Index knuckle visibly on bevel 4.
Index knuckle on bevel 3.
Let's see Stefanos again from an angle where we can see his index knuckle. Again his index knuckle is clearly on bevel 4 for anyone who's not blind. That's the definition of a semi-western grip. Don't be duped by the straight hand classic motion, the grip is nevertheless the definition of SW.
best you can argue is weak semi-western.
lol it isn't a semi western... Look at his palm, his index knuckle and the open racquet face. Dead giveaway.. swingpath changes for a SW grip too and racquet face is never that open because of wrist pronation..do a bit of research and you'll come across various articles as well.His palm is visibly further down on his grip than Del Potro's is...
Index knuckle visibly on bevel 4.
Index knuckle on bevel 3.
Let's see Stefanos again, again from an angle where we can see his index knuckle. Again his index knuckle is clearly on bevel 4 for anyone who's not blind. That's the definition of a semi-western grip. Don't be duped by the straight hand classic motion, the grip is nevertheless the definition of SW.
best you can argue is weak semi-western.
jesus christ this is so classic TTW in a nutshell, impossible for people to back down on their belief, even when presented with clear visual evidence. "b..b..but his coach said." Don't care, look at the pictures.
Let's do it slowly, with simple brief sentences.
This is an eastern grip. Fed's index knuckle is right on the middle of bevel 3. That's a textbook eastern forehand.
Here is Stefanos again. To help you along, I dotted his index knuckle in red. Hopefully you can see where it's positioned, but by this point I am not too hopeful, so I will spell it out: It's smack on the middle of bevel 4. What does this tell us? Stefanos clearly does not hit with the same grip as Fed or Delpo, his palm is rotated visibly further down to the point that his index knuckle is on a different bevel.
NOT THE SAME GRIP
the idea that you cannot conceivably have an open racquet face with a semi-western is also pretty wild
As I said above, educate yourself. Federer has what is called an extreme eastern grip. It is a hybrid of classic eastern and semi-western and NOT a textbook eastern. A more accurate classic eastern grip example would be Bautista Agut and Juan Martin Delpotro. Hope that helps. Would recommend you research this a bit more too but have a feeling that isn't going to happen either.jesus christ this is so classic TTW in a nutshell, impossible for people to back down on their belief, even when presented with clear visual evidence. "b..b..but his coach said." Don't care, look at the pictures.
Let's do it slowly, with simple brief sentences.
This is an eastern grip. Fed's index knuckle is right on the middle of bevel 3. That's a textbook eastern forehand.
He has been corrected by several people, even shown a link to where he himself and his coach have clearly specified, but like a typical ttw GPPD section poster he will not understand and not accept because of ego or whatever. Best to move on.
Yet I'm the only one capable of actually making my case with picture evidence, LOL
No, not changing any posts. Simply calling you out in your last post where you were clearly wrong. You said Fed has a textbook eastern. He does not.
Either you don't know the difference between eastern and semi western or you are being thick on purpose here..
Now I am getting to the hypothesis you can't hit left handed with straight facejesus christ this is so classic TTW in a nutshell, impossible for people to back down on their belief, even when presented with clear visual evidence. "b..b..but his coach said." Don't care, look at the pictures.
Let's do it slowly, with simple brief sentences.
This is an eastern grip. Fed's index knuckle is right on the middle of bevel 3. That's a textbook eastern forehand.
Here is Stefanos again. To help you along, I dotted his index knuckle in red. Hopefully you can see where it's positioned, but by this point I am not too hopeful, so I will spell it out: It's smack on the middle of bevel 4. What does this tell us? Stefanos clearly does not hit with the same grip as Fed or Delpo, his palm is rotated visibly further down to the point that his index knuckle is on a different bevel.
NOT THE SAME GRIP
the idea that you cannot conceivably have an open racquet face with a semi-western is also pretty wild
lol all that you provided basically was proof that you have too much free time on your hands. And even the pics you showed don't clearly show his base knuckles on 4. Base knuckle is where finger joins palm. Both your pics don't show what you are trying to claim. Anyway, I am not going to spoon feed you. Besides, if Tsitsipas's own coach's words and his own words and his opponents words and commentators words (James Blake and others on TC) aren't enough, damn why do I get this feeling mine won't be enough either?
Some coach recently told me he was right cause he was a coach.
It is the index base knuckle and heel pad which matters. I am sure you can easily YouTube yourself. It is not just because his coach and other players said so. It is because he really does use a conservative grip. If I had time to sit and collect pictures and post here, I would. Unfortunately work beckons. Feel free to disagree. Life is too short for arguing over things. Cheers.
Fair enough
Well said.
