Andre Agassi says In His Prime on grass sampras Would Beat Federer

UnderratedSlam · Aug 23, 2019

Andre is just trying to smooth things over with Sampras, this is just politics...

xFedal · Aug 23, 2019

NoleFam said:
I take Federer on that backhand side and I say maybe his technique on the forehand is better but Sampras' forehand when he was on the run or stretched out was deadlier. I think Federer's forehand from the center of the court is more potent though. So I guess even on the forehand all things considered. Sampras takes the serve and volley though, and Federer takes the return. But Sampras' serve on fast surfaces in tight situations was the best I've seen.

What makes you say Fed takes the return ? PEAK Return games won Pete 33.3% hard courts in 1994 and Fed 31.7% peak return on slower hard courts...... Pete was an elite returner when he wanted to be.

xFedal · Aug 23, 2019

SaintPetros said:
6-4 Pete Grass
2,3-8,7 Fed Clay

Pete never became anyones whipping boy..... I doubt he becomes feds...of all people..... Pete did not allow anyone to dominate him again and again...

Zara · Aug 23, 2019

ForehandRF said:
Nadal was so much superiour from the mental point of view at that moment and it's amazing that Federer still found a way to comeback in that match.The FO gave Nadal Wimbledon that year, if you understand what I mean.

That's the thing with Feds. On that day, he was much superior. Otherwise, he's just a clay goat.

xFedal · Aug 23, 2019

KINGROGER said:
Pettiness in exposing your double standards?

Nole won like 6-7 strong era slams at most. His biggest success came vs 30s fed and post prime Nadal.

How many strong era slams did Federer win at most?

NatF · Aug 23, 2019

xFedal said:
Petes return of serve has been very good....1994 on hard courts guy reached a peak even Fed cannot touch.... 33.3% return games won on hard courts 1994.... THATS ELITE LEVEL..... unreachable for Fed..... (31.7%)

Return numbers were higher in the 90's than now, contrary to common knowledge the serve is actually more dominant now then every before which the new strings.

xFedal · Aug 23, 2019

NatF said:
Return numbers were higher in the 90's than now, contrary to common knowledge the serve is actually more dominant now then every before which the new strings.

I know the serve numbers have gone up... as for the return you might be right.... 30%+ return games is elite in my eyes what do you think?

SaintPetros · Aug 23, 2019

NatF said:
Return numbers were higher in the 90's than now, contrary to common knowledge the serve is actually more dominant now then every before which the new strings.

But bazooka rackets and magic strings make it easier to return previously unplayable serves if you get a racket on them.

NatF · Aug 23, 2019

SaintPetros said:
But bazooka rackets and magic strings make it easier to return previously unplayable serves if you get a racket on them.

New rackets gives you more benefit on the serve than the return. That's why serve numbers are going up and up. In todays era Pete would have higher serve numbers for sure despite "bazooka" returns.

xFedal · Aug 23, 2019

NatF said:
New rackets gives you more benefit on the serve than the return. That's why serve numbers are going up and up. In todays era Pete would have higher serve numbers for sure despite "bazooka" returns.

Higher serve numbers as in from 81% 1st serve points won to 82% in today....

NatF · Aug 23, 2019

xFedal said:
Higher serve numbers as in from 81% 1st serve points won to 82% in today....

Who are you referring to here? I'm talking tour wide.

xFedal · Aug 23, 2019

NatF said:
Who are you referring to here? I'm talking tour wide.

Alright... I was just saying if Pete won 81% in 90s, today would you say he would win 82% 1st serve points an increase of 1% at the very least?

SaintPetros · Aug 23, 2019

xFedal said:
Pete never became anyones whipping boy..... I doubt he becomes feds...of all people..... Pete did not allow anyone to dominate him again and again...

'greed, I guess I was thinking if they played ten exhos in isolation as opposed to the context of the Tour.

JimJones · Aug 23, 2019

Sunny Ali said:
Sure and Roy Emerson is better than Rod Laver because he has more slams than him

Irrelevant since Federer has more slams than them all

NatF · Aug 23, 2019

xFedal said:
Alright... I was just saying if Pete won 81% in 90s, today would you say he would win 82% 1st serve points an increase of 1% at the very least?

I have no idea, just some level of more. He'd probably have hold numbers like Karlovic today.

Start da Game · Aug 23, 2019

the stupidity of fraudsters in this thread is amazing.......sampras is the greatest ever on grass by a huge margin.......

losing three Wimbledon finals to hc specialist djokovic alone questions fraud’s grass goat status.......now go check how many wimbledon finals pete lost......

Deleted member 744633 · Aug 23, 2019

JimJones said:
Irrelevant since Federer has more slams than them all

I have no problem with this logic. I just hope you won't move this goal post when Djokovic sails past Federer

SaintPetros · Aug 23, 2019

Sunny Ali said:
I have no problem with this logic. I just hope you won't move this goal post when Djokovic sails past Federer

Keep hoping Sunny

Deleted member 744633 · Aug 23, 2019

SaintPetros said:
Keep hoping Sunny

LOL Petros! If past experience is any indicator, you're right on the ball!

JimJones · Aug 23, 2019

Sunny Ali said:
I have no problem with this logic. I just hope you won't move this goal post when Djokovic sails past Federer

When or if?

SamprasisGOAT · Aug 23, 2019

Start da Game said:
the stupidity of fraudsters in this thread is amazing.......sampras is the greatest ever on grass by a huge margin.......

losing three Wimbledon finals to hc specialist djokovic alone questions fraud’s grass goat status.......now go check how many wimbledon finals pete lost......

Mate there’s some of us who know. Some of us know Sampras is the goat

xFedal · Aug 23, 2019

SamprasisGOAT said:
Mate there’s some of us who know. Some of us know Sampras is the goat

PETE IS THE MOST UNPLAYABLE PLAYER I HAVE EVER SEEN.....PERIOD!

KINGROGER · Aug 23, 2019

xFedal said:
How many strong era slams did Federer win at most?

2007-2012?
8
Not bad

If 2004-2006 years are weak so is 2013 - present

RFRF · Aug 23, 2019

True Fanerer said:
Typical Andre always putting Federer down. I was an Agassi fan and I hate when he does this. Of course Sampras was a beast and would have won his fair share against Federer. No doubt about that. It's just Agassi always does this with Federer. It's gotten old.

For some strange reason Agassi has a hard on for rog. He better cut these stupid comments or he will have no fans left at all.

Zara · Aug 23, 2019

RFRF said:
For some strange reason Agassi has a hard on for rog. He better cut these stupid comments or he will have no fans left at all.

Agassi played both players though. You don't suppose his perspectives matter on these things?

Deleted member 744633 · Aug 23, 2019

JimJones said:
When or if?

When, all IMO of course

RFRF · Aug 24, 2019

Zara said:
Agassi played both players though. You don't suppose his perspectives matter on these things?

No not at all.

xFedal · Aug 24, 2019

KINGROGER said:
2007-2012?
8
Not bad

If 2004-2006 years are weak so is 2013 - present

+1 AO17!!! I disagree with your 8 from the time period.

JimJones · Aug 25, 2019

Sunny Ali said:
When, all IMO of course

Of course! Therefore you have to preface such opinions with 'IMO', instead of stating them like facts.

Deleted member 744633 · Aug 25, 2019

JimJones said:
Of course! Therefore you have to preface such opinions with 'IMO', instead of stating them like facts.

Agreed

reini0100 · Jan 21, 2024

Adv. Edberg said:
Agassi’s right though. Sampras would beat Federer in 7/10 Wimbledon matches if they’re both at their prime. 19 year old Fed was more in his prime than Sampras was at 30. Its a shame Fed didn’t play in the 80s and 90s but then again, if he did he would struggle to get ahold of many slams in that strong era and wouldn’t be in goat discussions at all probably.

Edberg, Becker and Sampras would share Wimbledon with him. Clay would be impossible. And HC would be tricky too with all the ATGs from that era.

federer played in this aera, lost to rafter, santoro, agassi, henman etc. the 2001 wimbledon and 2002 season where federer already beat sampras in wimbledon before proofes he could not win a grand slam in this sampras aera. what did sampras after his 2001 wimbledon loss? he final us open 2001 and win us open 2002. thats 6 grand slams proofing you cant compare sampras with federer. federer was young and his play was better than any time later (this is logical). sampras was older his game was not so good as in the mid 90 s (also logical). but his strokes too powerful and his physics too athletic, look at him moving around the court, looks naturally easy flying like air in his feed almost a god would play. I vs seen a slam dunk try from federer, compare the height between his and sampras slum dunk, the one looks natural the other one you think he falls on his back when touching the floor again.

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